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jolegend

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I’m not in a good place right now.

I’ve supported this club through thick and thin. For context, I’ve seen Andy Sinton, Stuart Nethercott, Paulo Tramazzani, Timotee Atouba, Mbuelo Mabizela, Kazayuki Toda, Antony Gardner and Hossam Ghaly all wear the great white and blue. I have also seen Teddy Sheringham, David Ginola, Ledley King, Robbie Keane, Dimitar Berbatov, Luka Modric, Rafa Van Der Vaart and Gareth Bale. And Michael Dawson. I fucking loved Michael Dawson.

I am lucky. My Dad chose Spurs. He chose Spurs for me. He hugged me tonight and said ‘I’m sorry’. Its not his fault. I’m Spurs. Its my blood. I’d have chosen them anyway. And I would not change it for the world. I remember my first game he took me to at White Hart Lane. It was Spurs v Villa in 96 and Bosnich did the nazi salute. What a dickhead. But Allan Nielsen got the winner and that was that. A love affair began and will never end.

I have never been more proud to be a Spurs fan than I have this past month. I am 29 years old. My eyes have not seen the Glory but those wins against Man City and Ajax will stay with me for as long as I live.

My wife is 12 weeks pregnant after 18 months and 3 rounds of IVF treatment and 1 miscarriage. Yesterday, seeing the positive scan was the best day of my life but I already know that every day for the next 6 months will be tense and stressful. Following the good news yesterday, this evening was supposed to be the icing on the cake.

I’ve never liked fucking icing.

But I will regale my child (I hope!) about those nights in Manchester and Amsterdam. Absolute magic. He/She has there football life set out for them already...they are Spurs and they don’t even know it.

I am emotional. I suppose for many reasons. My personal life is all a bit weird. Months and months of tension and pressure and pain. My escape was Spurs. As it has been, I suppose, my entire life. But my escape has been even crazier. Just when I need stability, Spurs reach the the Champions League final!? What is that all about!? We are Spurs and that shouldn’t happen. But it did...and I love it.

I am proud. I love this club. Each and every one of us is lucky. We have THE best stadium in world football. We have a history and tradition that in itself is an echo of Glory. Supporting Spurs is much more than just following a football club. There are highs and lows and positives and negatives and hope and joy and sadness and despair. It’s life wrapped in to one.

I started this thread to rant. And I am still angry. I still don’t think it was a penalty. I am still fuming at the abject performances of Alli and Eriksen. Look at my posts in the match thread...I am not proud of those but I stand by them. I want the best for the club. I want the best for us. And I want the best for my child.

But my thoughts on how we achieve greatness and how we can learn from tonight can wait.

I fucking Iove Spurs.

Bring on next season you bastards!
 

Col_M

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Feb 28, 2012
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We can continue as we’ve been doing or we can do what Liverpool did when they lost and spunk loads of cash on a CB and a GK. not saying that’s what we need but spunk the money in what we need to take us to the next level.
 

M.I.B.

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For the first time in decades, I cried tonight. Not at the end, after losing, but just before ko when WHL erupted in support.
I looked up at the heavens (if they exist) and pleaded with my old man to help. Let's be fair, it was his bloody fault I got into this damn club way back in 1966. I actually got proper emotional (just before my son got back with the beers).

Well, dad didn't help. Bless him. But I'll be back again next season, hoping we do something special before I shuffle off this mortal coil.

C'mon dad. Give us a hand here.
 

M.I.B.

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For the first time in decades, I cried tonight. Not at the end, after losing, but just before ko when WHL erupted in support.
I looked up at the heavens (if they exist) and pleaded with my old man to help. Let's be fair, it was his bloody fault I got into this damn club way back in 1966. I actually got proper emotional (just before my son got back with the beers).

Well, dad didn't help. Bless him. But I'll be back again next season, hoping we do something special before I shuffle off this mortal coil.

C'mon dad. Give us a hand here.

One good thing. The legend that is Steve Perryman was on my train home to Crawley. Got a handshake after all these years. Top bloke. He was gutted too.
 

jolegend

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We can continue as we’ve been doing or we can do what Liverpool did when they lost and spunk loads of cash on a CB and a GK. not saying that’s what we need but spunk the money in what we need to take us to the next level.

We need to spend. Football is moving on. We go with it and win or we sit tight and miss our chance.

We are 3-4 player short of glory. But those players will need to rely on Poch to drop his favourites.
 

Lighty64

I believe
Aug 24, 2010
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I’m not in a good place right now.

I’ve supported this club through thick and thin. For context, I’ve seen Andy Sinton, Stuart Nethercott, Paulo Tramazzani, Timotee Atouba, Mbuelo Mabizela, Kazayuki Toda, Antony Gardner and Hossam Ghaly all wear the great white and blue. I have also seen Teddy Sheringham, David Ginola, Ledley King, Robbie Keane, Dimitar Berbatov, Luka Modric, Rafa Van Der Vaart and Gareth Bale. And Michael Dawson. I fucking loved Michael Dawson.

I am lucky. My Dad chose Spurs. He chose Spurs for me. He hugged me tonight and said ‘I’m sorry’. Its not his fault. I’m Spurs. Its my blood. I’d have chosen them anyway. And I would not change it for the world. I remember my first game he took me to at White Hart Lane. It was Spurs v Villa in 96 and Bosnich did the nazi salute. What a dickhead. But Allan Nielsen got the winner and that was that. A love affair began and will never end.

I have never been more proud to be a Spurs fan than I have this past month. I am 29 years old. My eyes have not seen the Glory but those wins against Man City and Ajax will stay with me for as long as I live.

My wife is 12 weeks pregnant after 18 months and 3 rounds of IVF treatment and 1 miscarriage. Yesterday, seeing the positive scan was the best day of my life but I already know that every day for the next 6 months will be tense and stressful. Following the good news yesterday, this evening was supposed to be the icing on the cake.

I’ve never liked fucking icing.

But I will regale my child (I hope!) about those nights in Manchester and Amsterdam. Absolute magic. He/She has there football life set out for them already...they are Spurs and they don’t even know it.

I am emotional. I suppose for many reasons. My personal life is all a bit weird. Months and months of tension and pressure and pain. My escape was Spurs. As it has been, I suppose, my entire life. But my escape has been even crazier. Just when I need stability, Spurs reach the the Champions League final!? What is that all about!? We are Spurs and that shouldn’t happen. But it did...and I love it.

I am proud. I love this club. Each and every one of us is lucky. We have THE best stadium in world football. We have a history and tradition that in itself is an echo of Glory. Supporting Spurs is much more than just following a football club. There are highs and lows and positives and negatives and hope and joy and sadness and despair. It’s life wrapped in to one.

I started this thread to rant. And I am still angry. I still don’t think it was a penalty. I am still fuming at the abject performances of Alli and Eriksen. Look at my posts in the match thread...I am not proud of those but I stand by them. I want the best for the club. I want the best for us. And I want the best for my child.

But my thoughts on how we achieve greatness and how we can learn from tonight can wait.

I fucking Iove Spurs.

Bring on next season you bastards!

in answer to the thread title, you will have to be the same with Spurs and when the new born arrives. if you don't have great patience in another 6 months you are about to learn to have them(y)

there will be other finals just around the corner, there will be wins there will be loses it's life. hopefully my the time your little'n is running around a School play ground we will be serial winners.
 

freeeki

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Aug 5, 2008
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In reality, we got to the final far too early. I have no doubt that Poch and Levy’s long term plan at the start of the season would have said that we shouldn’t have been getting to CL finals for another 3-4 years.

It’s been a great experience in terms of showing us what we can achieve, and giving us valuable European final experience.

But this was never meant to be our night, or our year. I’m sure of it. It was a lucky and enjoyable fluke which will hopefully have many positive outcomes for years to come.

It’s also shown Pochettino which of his players turn up when it matters, and which don’t. I’ve seen nothing in the last 6 months to suggest the likes of Alli and Eriksen can’t be upgraded, and tonight solidified that for me. I’m sure Poch saw it too.

We’re good. We’re very good. But we’re a few years and a few hundred million quid away from really competing at the moment, and that’s fine.

From here we need to be brave. We need to be unafraid to let players go who have hit their ceiling, and be bold in the transfer market. It’s time to take risks and spend the big bucks when we need to, and be aware that some big money players won’t come good.

We need to meet the asking prices for players like Ndombele, Lo Celso, De Ligt and not have a repeat of the absolute shambles which was the Grealish saga last summer.

The future is very bright but this summer is the most crucial in our history. Levy has to get this right. It’s non-negotiable now. If we don’t, Pool and City will get too far ahead to ever be caught.

As for us fans, we just need to buckle in and enjoy the ride.
 

EighteenEightyTwo

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Jan 10, 2011
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Tonight I cried more than I have since the Blackburn final when I was 8 (aside from than the death of my mum). Thanks to all the Spurs fans in the Wanda who consoled me.

It could’ve been so much worse, think of Boca who lost to their arch rivals in the equivalent competition in South America- if it was Arsenal or Chelsea it would’ve been unbearable.

I do believe it’s the start of something. We will win it one day.

COYS
 

mil1lion

This is the place to be
May 7, 2004
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The new stadium has only been open a couple of months, we've just played in the Champions League final in only our 4th season playing the competition. We need to start to truely believe in this club now. Bit by bit we're edging closer to the promise land. We will suffer some more I'm sure but it will all be worth it when we finally succeed.

What do we do now? Take a break for a couple of months and get ready for the next chapter. This is not the end of the journey, it's only the beginning.
 

DCSPUR64

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Dec 2, 2018
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Three rounds of IVF treatment and your wife 12 weeks pregnant, supporting Spurs, what else do you want.
In all seriousness, thanks for sharing your journey, jole.
 

Lighty64

I believe
Aug 24, 2010
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We need to spend. Football is moving on. We go with it and win or we sit tight and miss our chance.

We are 3-4 player short of glory. But those players will need to rely on Poch to drop his favourites.

yes we need to spend, but unless Uncle Joe throws everything at it, we are not going to over take or catch City or Chelsea up.

your dad was lucky to grow up in an era when football was football, unfortunately since the 90's it's now just money, money and more money, and 2 teams, the PL, and UEFA made it a lot harder for everyone to compete
 

Locotoro

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Sep 2, 2004
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We've seen this season a Liverpool and Man City team that have brought a consistency and intensity to the league and cup competitions never seen in previous years. We managed to get to UCL final and lose to a poor Liverpool side. Getting so close to the cup and not lifting it can be a huge motivating factor. I'm not one of these people that thinks Alison and Van Dijk are what has made the difference at Liverpool. Great signings but actually since the final last year every single player has upped their game. Their fullbacks are incredible by comparison to last year. They no longer worry about midfield playmaker and they focus on overloading the box quickly and getting the ball wide.

What do you think Poch will do at the start of pre-season? If anything I think this experience should and will make Poch raise his game to a previously unseen level. The players will work harder and be more consistent and if we do bring in some quality players I fully expect to see silverware and being in the title race up to the final weeks of the League.
 

jolegend

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We've seen this season a Liverpool and Man City team that have brought a consistency and intensity to the league and cup competitions never seen in previous years. We managed to get to UCL final and lose to a poor Liverpool side. Getting so close to the cup and not lifting it can be a huge motivating factor. I'm not one of these people that thinks Alison and Van Dijk are what has made the difference at Liverpool. Great signings but actually since the final last year every single player has upped their game. Their fullbacks are incredible by comparison to last year. They no longer worry about midfield playmaker and they focus on overloading the box quickly and getting the ball wide.

What do you think Poch will do at the start of pre-season? If anything I think this experience should and will make Poch raise his game to a previously unseen level. The players will work harder and be more consistent and if we do bring in some quality players I fully expect to see silverware and being in the title race up to the final weeks of the League.

Couldn’t agree more with this post.
 

mstill13

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May 26, 2007
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I know we had no right to be in a champions league final. I know we have no right to be battling out at the top of the prem. All other clubs in the top 6 have so much more money and resources. We are over achieving just to be in the conversation!
I know all this but still...
Tonight hurt. More than i thought it would. More than it should.
We've achieved so much to be where we are today.
I should be proud. And I am!
But I don't know how to deal with this feeling right now.
How are you all coping?
 

Ron Burgundy

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Jun 19, 2008
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We need to spend. Football is moving on. We go with it and win or we sit tight and miss our chance.

We are 3-4 player short of glory. But those players will need to rely on Poch to drop his favourites.

Simple as really

We need 3 or 4 new first team players

We need to get Kane and Alli (Eriksen’s gone) back to 2017 form. Can we? Presume so, not sure though.

Do those two things effectively and we’re there.

But yeah, tonight hurt a lot. Absolutely gutted.
 

ShaunL84

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Jan 3, 2013
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Was Joe Lewis even at the ground tonight?

If Pochettino doesn't get a net spend of £200 million in the Summer, the owners need to go.
 
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