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What do you think of Ramos so far?

Real_madyidd

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Very happy so far. He likes to play some experienced players, which has really helped.

I wouldn't sleep with him yet, maybe just a quick poke and fuck off.
 

TaoistMonkey

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i'll start to judge him on how he copes with a loss on what changes he makes to the side the next game.

i think tatics will be the main focus point on how well he will be for us.

so far so good though.
 

phil

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As somebody who has been advocating Jol's replacement since last season, I am hardly unbiased but I am encouraged by Ramos's start.

Some of the players (Berbatov and Defoe) have been praising Ramos but as some of the England squad have recently given McClaren their support, I take such public pronouncements with a hefty pinch of salt.

On the pitch, there is evidence that Ramos has been working on set pieces. Attacking corners are now being delivered by the wide players (Lennon and Malbranque) rather than Huddlestone, Keane and Jenas. When defending corners, there are now players on both posts rather than just the far post. I'm not suggesting that the results so far are any better but it does indicate that Ramos is working at addressing a problem.

I was pleased to see Huddlestone relegated to the reserves. No one is doubting the players' ability but I think most would question his fitness.

Ramos has also made more adventurous substitutions. I could not see Jol replacing a poor performing player as early as Ramos did (Kaboul against Blackpool). The test will come when we are chasing a game.

What was particularly encouraging was the way that the midfield pressed against Wigan when they did not have possession. Seeing Lennon tracking back and making sliding tackles was very pleasing. The opposition was woeful but the performance and attitude of the players was encouraging.

There are also signs that Ramos' team will defend further up the pitch. Many of us felt that we defended too deeply under Jol especially when trying to protect a lead late in the game (e.g. Fulham).

As other posters has suggested, it is too early to judge Ramos. It will be weeks before we see the affects of the new training regime but, so far, I like what I've seen.
 

stemark44

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Really optimistic about our future under Juade Ramos,think it will be a few more games before we see a big improvement in the team.He seems to be going about his job in a very methodical,professional manner and the comments from some of the players are very encouraging.
I think the days of sloppy attitudes and sloppy defending are coming to an end and the days of solid defending,tactical awareness,slick passing and free flowing football,are just around the corner.
Lets hope so anyway!
 

SpurSince57

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As somebody who has been advocating Jol's replacement since last season, I am hardly unbiased but I am encouraged by Ramos's start.

Some of the players (Berbatov and Defoe) have been praising Ramos but as some of the England squad have recently given McClaren their support, I take such public pronouncements with a hefty pinch of salt.

On the pitch, there is evidence that Ramos has been working on set pieces. Attacking corners are now being delivered by the wide players (Lennon and Malbranque) rather than Huddlestone, Keane and Jenas. When defending corners, there are now players on both posts rather than just the far post. I'm not suggesting that the results so far are any better but it does indicate that Ramos is working at addressing a problem.

I was pleased to see Huddlestone relegated to the reserves. No one is doubting the players' ability but I think most would question his fitness.

Ramos has also made more adventurous substitutions. I could not see Jol replacing a poor performing player as early as Ramos did (Kaboul against Blackpool). The test will come when we are chasing a game.

What was particularly encouraging was the way that the midfield pressed against Wigan when they did not have possession. Seeing Lennon tracking back and making sliding tackles was very pleasing. The opposition was woeful but the performance and attitude of the players was encouraging.

There are also signs that Ramos' team will defend further up the pitch. Many of us felt that we defended too deeply under Jol especially when trying to protect a lead late in the game (e.g. Fulham).

As other posters has suggested, it is too early to judge Ramos. It will be weeks before we see the affects of the new training regime but, so far, I like what I've seen.

BAE came off at half-time at the Immigrants last season, and both Ghaly and Zokora were taken off quite early too.

But it's been encouraging. The belief seems to be coming back. I also thought there were quite significant differences between the Hapoel and Wigan games, and that in the latter we got much more of a hint of what Ramos is after, with a much higher line, snappier passing and a generally higher tempo. We seemed to take the foot off the pedal for the first few minutes after the break, but then put it down again and never really looked back. And yes, Wigan were awful, but a very comfortable win over a side that's made us work pretty hard over the past two seasons has to be good for the team's confidence.

There is a good foundation to work with. In amidst the doom and gloom it's been forgotten that we've played better football than in some of the corresponding fixtures last season only to let ourselves down with some horribly sloppy individual and collective defending. I know that's a bit like saying, 'But apart from that, Mrs Lincoln, the play was very enjoyable, wasn't it?' but it happens to be true, and it's what's made the season doubly frustrating.

I personally thought that Jol had done enough to be given another season, and that if the board had had major doubts they should have acted in June and taken the abuse. But that has to be water under the bridge now. Early days, yes, but Ramos may, just may, be the first Spurs manager ever to get us playing the attractive attacking football we all want to see and being able to defend at the same time.
 

SouthLondonSpur

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I think its still too early to tell.

However I am willing to give him the benefit of the doubt. I'll withold judgement until after the new year transfers and see who he has had to let go and who he has wanted to keep / get in.
 

damn91

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I thnink ramos is going to take this club very far, he is not afraid to take the "untouchables" although this may change after he has got used to the squad
 

batigol

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I think Ramos has shown in a brief 3 weeks that he may have what it takes to bring us to the next level. What I like best about him is that he let's the team and players' performances do the talking for him. He's certainly more organized and professional, and I think his no-nonsense stance will stand him in good stead when it comes to dealing with some of our more flighty and inconsistent players.

I have a sneaky feeling that he can already hold a decent conversation in English but refrains from speaking at post-match conferences because he thinks that it is not worth the effort and maybe even more disruptive for the team. See what is wrong and get down to work on it. No more harping about costly individual defensive errors match after match and saying that something must/should/will be done but nothing changes. Just do it is his motto it seems and I like it. :hump:
 

sloth

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BAE came off at half-time at the Immigrants last season, and both Ghaly and Zokora were taken off quite early too.

But it's been encouraging. The belief seems to be coming back. I also thought there were quite significant differences between the Hapoel and Wigan games, and that in the latter we got much more of a hint of what Ramos is after, with a much higher line, snappier passing and a generally higher tempo. We seemed to take the foot off the pedal for the first few minutes after the break, but then put it down again and never really looked back. And yes, Wigan were awful, but a very comfortable win over a side that's made us work pretty hard over the past two seasons has to be good for the team's confidence.

There is a good foundation to work with. In amidst the doom and gloom it's been forgotten that we've played better football than in some of the corresponding fixtures last season only to let ourselves down with some horribly sloppy individual and collective defending. I know that's a bit like saying, 'But apart from that, Mrs Lincoln, the play was very enjoyable, wasn't it?' but it happens to be true, and it's what's made the season doubly frustrating.

I personally thought that Jol had done enough to be given another season, and that if the board had had major doubts they should have acted in June and taken the abuse. But that has to be water under the bridge now. Early days, yes, but Ramos may, just may, be the first Spurs manager ever to get us playing the attractive attacking football we all want to see and being able to defend at the same time.

Well said that man! :clap:
 

tony0379

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May 17, 2004
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Not seen to much so far but i like;

1. That he seems more involved during the games than Jol.....shouting, pointing and gving the players signs on how to play.

2. That he's not in a jog-suit during our games

3. By the early comments it seems like he takes a bigger interest in having conversations with the players.

I'm surely gonna give him a fair shot.......to be honest, he didn't come during an easy period for the team. So he will need time to sort our defence out and i hope he'll put an end to buying expensive english players and all these youngsters that will fade away in our reserves. Hopefully he'll bring in experince!

took the words out me mouth mate
 

flatback4

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Jol achieved a lot in Holland at a lower level, taking a mediocre team up a couple of levels. He did just that at Tottenham, but think this season showed he'd done just about everything he was capable of doing.

Ramos has a proven track record in Spain with Seville and I think he's the man to achieve that top-4 spot for us. Absolutely true that he's had an easy run of starting games - but you've still got to go out and win these and we've done that in style and haven't given away the usual bucketful of crap goals.

Think the guy's got immense promise - but it's a massive ask to get us back into Europe again next season
 

Spursking

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I am very happy with Ramos so far, and he has set the standard straight. He makes his own decisions, and does dare to choose his own 1st eleven.

I also believe in his organisation and tactics. He has improved the defensive standards, but we have not played the best football yet, but as this stage the results is the most important. We will improve with the performances in a while.

Overall - I am very happy with Ramos' work.
 

sussexyid

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I've said in other threads I have a good feeling about Ramos. I loved MJ, but I get the impression this guy is a step up. Everything I see, hear and read about him seems exactly what we need - tough no-nonsense type, respected by his players, understands their strengths and weaknesses, keeps things simple and he's already got us looking sharper and more effective imo (I know Wigan were shite, but it's the way we approached it that was good).

It's early doors and this is all conjecture, but I like him.

100% agree. Nice one mate, you just saved me loads of typing.
 

SpurSince57

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I am very happy with Ramos so far, and he has set the standard straight. He makes his own decisions, and does dare to choose his own 1st eleven.

I also believe in his organisation and tactics. He has improved the defensive standards, but we have not played the best football yet, but as this stage the results is the most important. We will improve with the performances in a while.

Overall - I am very happy with Ramos' work.


So who was picking the team? Comolli?

Well, we know who to blame now. :roll:
 

TopSpurMan

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I'd like to think that so far we don't tire quite as much as we used to in the 2nd half and certain players are being played in positions where they are naturally stronger.

The defence looks like they are holding a line now as opposed to Kabul taking the occasional stroll up the park. The differance in his game against Wigan was very noticable - all in all I think we are doing better but the real verdict will come about later probably after christmas
 
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