What exactly does a DoF have to do to get sacked?

[devlin_adl]

Surely that's splitting hairs?

They obviously negotiated the deals in mind of both happening - surely?

The net result was Garcia + money for Torres, whatever structure you put on it.

What we know is that the Garcia transfer was completed (for a fee speculated to be in the region of £4m) and he was was registered as an Athletico player, before, the Torres transfer.

The only other fact we have any degree of certainty is £20m, because Torres has come out and said that himself (on the Times podcast).

You can speculate that Liverpool forgave the Garica transfer fee as part of the Torres transfer but that's all it is, speculation. Equally, I could speculate that the transfer fee was £16m in cash or installments plus forgiveness of the Garcia fee (= £20m). In fact, I would argue that my figure is more consistent with what Torres said because it adds up to £20m, the Garcia fee is just part of how it is structured (in a similar vein to installments).

 

[SpurSince57]

What exactly does £6 million get you for a striker? Loads. I'm not talking about players who would start instead of Berbatov or Keane, I'm talking about players who are happy to join the club as a support striker. As I mentioned previously, Man U, Chelsea and Arsenal are all happy to have 3 main strikers and have players like Bendtner or Eagles coming through. I don't actually think we needed another striker at all, but if you're asking what you can get for £6 million... Well, there Olivier Kapo (£3m, 5 goals in 12 appearances for Birmingham), Roque Santa Cruz (£3.5m, 4 Premiership goals so far this season).

Well, £6m or thereabouts gets you Smith, Camara, Mido, Nugent, Jones. £2m more gets you Bianchi. Sometimes you strike lucky, as with Kapo, but I wouldn't get over-excited about Santa Cruz just yet. He was cheap because he was cack at Bayern.

Bent clearly wasn't bought as a support striker. At the moment he's pretty obviously our number three. Did we need another striker? Well, as the majority of SC believes Berbatov is going, and that Defoe will be out in January unless he puts pen to paper PDQ, I'd say yes.

And if, in your opinion, Bent is only worth £5m-£7m, what valuation would you put on Defoe?

 

[DoublePivot]

What we know is that the Garcia transfer was completed (for a fee speculated to be in the region of £4m) and he was was registered as an Athletico player, before, the Torres transfer.

The only other fact we have any degree of certainty is £20m, because Torres has come out and said that himself (on the Times podcast).

You can speculate that Liverpool forgave the Garica transfer fee as part of the Torres transfer but that's all it is, speculation. Equally, I could speculate that the transfer fee was £16m in cash or installments plus forgiveness of the Garcia fee (= £20m). In fact, I would argue that my figure is more consistent with what Torres said because it adds up to £20m, the Garcia fee is just part of how it is structured (in a similar vein to installments).

I would argue that you are basing your flimsy argument on a 2 word comment by Torres in a segment of speed answers with him and Daglish held by two ego-maniacs. He wasn't going to answer "20 million pluth Luith Garthia was thold to Atletico for cheap to greath the wheelth in the tranthfer buithneth". The value was 20 but everybody (except you obviously) knew that Garcia deal was part of the process making it closer to 28, because that was his buy-out clause value.