What is the EFL cup ?

[Bus-Conductor]

Anyone ? What the fuck is this ?

 

[glospur]

League Cup. Part of the entire re-branding of the football league.

 

[mike_l]

Is it? I thought we turned down a spot in it along with a couple of other sides, surely that would've been bigger news if it was the League Cup?? Or am I getting mixed up?

 

[TheChosenOne]

The Effle Cup.

a.k.a
Milk. Rumbelows. Worthington. Littlewoods and Carling.

More of an old slaaag cup than the Madonna FA Cup.

I would have thought naming it Emirates League Cup would have given it some "gravitas"

 

[mike_l]

Is it? I thought we turned down a spot in it along with a couple of other sides, surely that would've been bigger news if it was the League Cup?? Or am I getting mixed up?

I was confused between this and the EFL Trophy, which us the former JPT, apologies for daily mail link...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...Chelsea-Manchester-City-snub-competition.html

 

[TheChosenOne]

Chelsea and Liverpool amongst others playing in it tonight.

Klippety Klopp is gonna give it a go apparently. Bravo.

 

[aliyid]

No sponsor this year so just being called the English Football League Cup.

Personally, I prefer the bog standard name of League Cup rather than sounding like it's sponsored by some type of white power EDL style branding.

 

[talkshowhost86]

I wonder if now that it doesn't have a sponsor we'll start to see this competition die.

I really wouldn't miss it, even though two of our best moments in the last 20 years have come in League Cup finals.

We don't need two domestic cups. Get rid of it, boost the prestige of the FA Cup and give another league team a Europa spot.

 

[Lufti]

No sponsor this year so just being called the English Football League Cup.

Personally, I prefer the bog standard name of League Cup rather than sounding like it's sponsored by some type of white power EDL style branding.

Bloody hell mate, just cause a bunch of loons stuck the word 'English' in their group name, doesn't mean it has any racist connotations or shouldn't be used by anyone else...

 

[aliyid]

Bloody hell mate, just cause a bunch of loons stuck the word 'English' in their group name, doesn't mean it has any racist connotations or shouldn't be used by anyone else...

Oh yes I 100% agree, but (being honest) it is the first thing that popped into my head when I saw "EFL Cup" as a name a couple of weeks ago.

Probably says more about how many "outragged" Daily Mail and Daily Mash gumpf I see appear on my FB feed but that was my first reaction to seeing the branding of an EFL Cup...

 

[stonecolddeanaustin]

I wonder if now that it doesn't have a sponsor we'll start to see this competition die.

I really wouldn't miss it, even though two of our best moments in the last 20 years have come in League Cup finals.

We don't need two domestic cups. Get rid of it, boost the prestige of the FA Cup and give another league team a Europa spot.

We don't need it but a lot of the lower league teams count on it as a source of extra income. If they get rid of it they'll need to counteract this somehow.

 

[talkshowhost86]

We don't need it but a lot of the lower league teams count on it as a source of extra income. If they get rid of it they'll need to counteract this somehow.

Do they though?

If they are getting some revenue it really cannot be much.

The games on TV are pretty much just the premiership teams and the attendance levels for these games are appalling. Also if there's now no sponsor that can't help.

The alternative is to have a competition that doesn't include the Prem teams, but I assume that would suffer from an equal lack of interest.

 

[Marty]

I've for a while thought that the League Cup needs a complete revamp if it is going to be able to carry on.

Say no club can enter more than three competitions in a season, and make the League Cup a competition for all clubs that aren't in Europe. Keep it so the winner gets an EL spot, and that's a huge incentive for the middling and lower PL teams and the Championship teams to take it seriously.

That also benefits the teams that are already in Europe as they have one less competition to stretch their squad over. Win-win.

 

[WorcesterTHFC]

Do they though?

If they are getting some revenue it really cannot be much.

The games on TV are pretty much just the premiership teams and the attendance levels for these games are appalling. Also if there's now no sponsor that can't help.

The alternative is to have a competition that doesn't include the Prem teams, but I assume that would suffer from an equal lack of interest.

I'm pretty sure there's still a cup tournament for League One and Two (but not Championship) teams, which began about 30 years ago when those divisions were still the Third and Fourth divisions.

 

[chinaman]

I've for a while thought that the League Cup needs a complete revamp if it is going to be able to carry on.

Say no club can enter more than three competitions in a season, and make the League Cup a competition for all clubs that aren't in Europe. Keep it so the winner gets an EL spot, and that's a huge incentive for the middling and lower PL teams and the Championship teams to take it seriously.

That also benefits the teams that are already in Europe as they have one less competition to stretch their squad over. Win-win.

That is a very interesting solution which the idiots who run the game will never come up with.

 

[WalkerboyUK]

I'm pretty sure there's still a cup tournament for League One and Two (but not Championship) teams, which began about 30 years ago when those divisions were still the Third and Fourth divisions.

That's where I think this thread has got it's wires crossed.
The EFL (as it now is) is the League Cup, the one we beat Chelsea in a few years ago.

The tournament for League One & Two teams was the Johnstone's Paint Trophy.
This year it's been rebranded as the Checkatrade Trophy and has expanded to also include the Conference, and PL/Championship teams were also given the opportunity to enter their academy teams.

 

[stonecolddeanaustin]

Do they though?

If they are getting some revenue it really cannot be much.

The games on TV are pretty much just the premiership teams and the attendance levels for these games are appalling. Also if there's now no sponsor that can't help.

The alternative is to have a competition that doesn't include the Prem teams, but I assume that would suffer from an equal lack of interest.

I'm sure I've heard a few football league club chairmen saying the league cup is important to their finances but I can't find any source to back that up. A poorly attended match from a premier league point of view is still massive compared to the 4,000 odd they'd get in a league 2 match. Get to the third round of the league cup and there's a decent chance you'll draw a premier league club (equivalent to the fourth round of the FA Cup).

They already have the Johnson's Paint Trophy (or whatever it's called now), which excludes the Championship clubs so there'd be no point replacing the League Cup with a non-premier league tournament. They could always add the Championship clubs to the Johnston's Paint Trophy but I doubt that'd suffice in making up for the lack of a league cup.

Tricky one really cos I reckon at least half the premier league clubs now would be happy to see the back of it.

 

[TheChosenOne]

I'm sure I've heard a few football league club chairmen saying the league cup is important to their finances but I can't find any source to back that up. A poorly attended match from a premier league point of view is still massive compared to the 4,000 odd they'd get in a league 2 match. Get to the third round of the league cup and there's a decent chance you'll draw a premier league club (equivalent to the fourth round of the FA Cup).

They already have the Johnson's Paint Trophy (or whatever it's called now), which excludes the Championship clubs so there'd be no point replacing the League Cup with a non-premier league tournament. They could always add the Championship clubs to the Johnston's Paint Trophy but I doubt that'd suffice in making up for the lack of a league cup.

Tricky one really cos I reckon at least half the premier league clubs now would be happy to see the back of it.

Villa - The championship new boys have already been knocked out of the EFL

 

[BuryMeInEngland]

Anyone ? What the fuck is this ?

I had the same question and this is the first place I came to for an answer.

 

[NickHSpurs]

Today highlights to me the difference between a big and small club, even when comparing Prem teams.

Sunderland had 13,000 people in a 49,000 stadium, even though it was only against Shrewsbury that's embarrassing, we'll still sell out for Gillingham.