What our opponents' fans are saying about us 17/18

[Jgplk1]

From Redcafe's Harry Kane thread
Can we call him world class yet?

He would do very well to replace benzema at real

Yea he's world class imo.

He's world class.

You have to at this point. Maybe not an Ibrahimovic as far as technique is concerned but I don't see a weakness in the guy plus his scoring record over the past couple of years speaks for itself

Best striker in the English league bar none.

He's an amazing goal scorer but I think the rest of his game is still a little underrated. Definitely world class for me.

He told the entire Ruhr to sit down and shut the feck up and then shoved his cock 6 ards up their river.

If he's not "world class", the term has no meaning.

He's been WC for a while now. But let's face it, Spurs will never compete for major trophies for an extended period of time. They're doing well enough to be called a top 3 club in the EPL but it's not sustainable, with all the money that's being thrown around and all the big clubs wreaking havoc in the transfer market. He will need to move to and perform for an elite club that's challenging for the CL on a regular basis, to go down in the footballing annals as the greatest British striker of his generation, and perhaps the best striker of this decade.

I don't think he's leaving Spurs. English men tend to flop in other countries.

Yeah, he does seem inclined to pull a Totti. It'll be a shame though.

Not if you are a Spurs fan!


Best player in the league, better than Aguero, as good as Suarez. In my opinion.

Would agree he's better than Aguero now.

As good as Suarez currently or better than Suarez was at Pool?
I would say both, definetley as good infront of goal as any striker in the last 10 years. Maybe Suarez is more skilful but its goals what count with strikers.
He's world class but he should never ever ever ever be used in the same sentence as Suarez. Until he takes a bunch of borderline starting XI players within inches of winning a title or manages to produce at rates that past legends would dream of they aren't the same.


Has now scored 30 goals in his last 22 matches for club and country. If anything his goal-scoring rate is accelerating.

 

[spurs9]

Has now scored 30 goals in his last 22 matches for club and country. If anything his goal-scoring rate is accelerating.

Incredible Stat! Would be even more Impressive if Kane didn't like giving Lukaku a head start in August.

 

[Jgplk1]

There's not much about us in the Redcafe CL thread.

Glastonspur and one other lad keep trying to get a conversation about us started and everyone is ignoring them. Lots of talk about Liverpool tho.

This was about it

I am amazed the English sides managed four wins & a draw, most very convincingly, considering how poor they are these days according to the certain footballing experts & fans. Surely Spurs didn't beat the mighty Dortmond. Obviously a fluke.

 

[Turlough McHugh]

There's not much about us in the Redcafe CL thread.

Glastonspur and one other lad keep trying to get a conversation about us started and everyone is ignoring them. Lots of talk about Liverpool tho.

This was about it

I am amazed the English sides managed four wins & a draw, most very convincingly, considering how poor they are these days according to the certain footballing experts & fans. Surely Spurs didn't beat the mighty Dortmond. Obviously a fluke.

That Glastonspur is an embarrassment to our club!!

 

[glacierSpurs]

Dortmund fans' reactions to the loss were like ours when we lost to chelscum; full of possession but felt so hard done with clinical goals taken by opponents.

Though last night difference was we really created chances while chelscum really defended out of their skin and scored the only two fukcing shots they had on target!

 

[guiltyparty]

"He will need to move to and perform for an elite club that's challenging for the CL on a regular basis, to go down in the footballing annals as the greatest British striker of his generation, and perhaps the best striker of this decade."

Snubbing Utd didn't seem to hurt Shearer's legacy, his numbers alone preserved that. Spending most of your career at Southampton and Newcastle?

Blackburn may have won the league and been the Chelsea of their time but they were by no means an "elite team". Whatever that even means. Like world class, a modern football term that's fucking meaningless

Gazza never played for an 'elite team' but seem remembered damn well as a player. Some utter guff peddled

If and when Kane moves it will have nothing to do with the footballing annals and more with his drive to win stuff

 

[fatpiranha]

Arse mania

Vertonghen > Alderweirehere



This spurs back 5 is very solid if they build good understanding


**** off spurs

BVB keeper beaten twice on his near post.....Useless

The refs are really ****ing Dortmund sideways here

Kane doing it in Europe now? Was a matter of time to


F##king Tottnumb

Don't know why people are surprised. This is almost the only way Tottenham win games these years. Trash side. (no idea what that means)

Harry effing Kane. ****er can score though. Dortmund been shafted by the linesmen but they've let in cheap goals...

Dortmund robbed here

Such a poacher Kane is

Somehow the posts from the Dortmund forum made more sense and were in better English than the Arse Mania ones despite the former having gone through the mangle of 'Google translate' .

 

[hellava_tough]

So many idiots have said to me about Kane not being able to do it in Europe. They literally have no idea and can't have realised he was injured for 2 of our 3 group stage games last year. Before today he had 2 in 3. Now he has 4 in 4. And a good Europa record too. He's really not far away from being a top 5 ballon d'or contender.

Europa:

App = 25 Goals = 14

CL:

App = 4 Goals = 4

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_Kane#Career_statistics


Certainly a decent record for the guy, although a little bit disappointed with the Europa stats given Kane's ability, but I suppose we need to take into account the overall team performance in the EL, which hasn't been great.

Anyway, there's no reason Kane can't go from strength to strength in the competition seeing as he and the team seem to be getting better every season

Good times!

 

[Colston]

So many idiots have said to me about Kane not being able to do it in Europe. They literally have no idea and can't have realised he was injured for 2 of our 3 group stage games last year. Before today he had 2 in 3. Now he has 4 in 4. And a good Europa record too. He's really not far away from being a top 5 ballon d'or contender.

Yeah, it's bullshit, isn't it? I get pissed everytime the commentators go "The form he's in at the moment" because they are supposed to be experts... You'd think they know by now that form is temporary and class is permanent.

 

[tototoner]

He's very similar to Lewandowski in the way that unlike Messi and Ronaldo they were probably not thought of as special players but their work ethic and ability to consistently improve has put them up with the best. In some ways it's more impressive because noone really expected it.

Pochettino compared him to Batistuta recently

 

[$hoguN]

Pochettino compared him to Batistuta recently

Give it 3 years and Batistuta will be telling anyone who will listen that he was once compared to Kane

 

[Tucker]

Europa:

App = 25 Goals = 14

CL:

App = 4 Goals = 4

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_Kane#Career_statistics


Certainly a decent record for the guy, although a little bit disappointed with the Europa stats given Kane's ability, but I suppose we need to take into account the overall team performance in the EL, which hasn't been great.

Anyway, there's no reason Kane can't go from strength to strength in the competition seeing as he and the team seem to be getting better every season

Good times!

To be fair, Harry made a load of cameo appearances in the EL when he was a fresh faced kid. Sonthatvmay skew the stats somewhat.

 

[NinjaTuna]

To be fair, Harry made a load of cameo appearances in the EL when he was a fresh faced kid. Sonthatvmay skew the stats somewhat.

When did we play them?

 

[guiltyparty]

Europa:

App = 25 Goals = 14

CL:

App = 4 Goals = 4

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_Kane#Career_statistics


Certainly a decent record for the guy, although a little bit disappointed with the Europa stats given Kane's ability, but I suppose we need to take into account the overall team performance in the EL, which hasn't been great.

Anyway, there's no reason Kane can't go from strength to strength in the competition seeing as he and the team seem to be getting better every season

Good times!

Oh how spoiled we are now that 14 in 25, or a 0.56 goals a game ratio, in the Europa would be considered disappointing

That alone would be the 8th best return ever for a Spurs player in Europe (to score more than 5 goals) behind:

Terry Dyson 0.88
Dimitar Berbatov 0.75
Bobby Smith 0.71
Peter Crouch 0.70
Martin Chivers 0.69
Jermain Defoe 0.66
Jimmy Greaves 0.64

Although UEFA argues with your stats

It say 10 in 31 in Europa, 4 in 4 in CL. So that's 14 in 35. Which is 0.4

Which would make him 16th on all time Europe return list behind Lamela, Pavlyuchenko, Bent and believe it or not Soldado. (Tho half of his Europa games have come from the bench but they count in statistics)

Garth Crooks 0.56
Roberto Soldado 0.53
Mark Falco 0.52
Erik Lamela 0.49
Robbie Keane 0.47
Alan Gilzean 0.46
Darren Bent 0.46
Roman Pavlyuchenko 0.42

 

[guiltyparty]

To be fair, Harry made a load of cameo appearances in the EL when he was a fresh faced kid. Sonthatvmay skew the stats somewhat.

It does because his stats are far worse than that

Altho to be fair only last season did he not appear off the bench. Before that he was pretty much half and half start/sub for three years in a row in Europe

 

[the yid]

Oh how spoiled we are now that 14 in 25, or a 0.56 goals a game ratio, in the Europa would be considered disappointing

That alone would be the 8th best return ever for a Spurs player in Europe (to score more than 5 goals) behind:

Terry Dyson 0.88
Dimitar Berbatov 0.75
Bobby Smith 0.71
Peter Crouch 0.70
Martin Chivers 0.69
Jermain Defoe 0.66
Jimmy Greaves 0.64

Although UEFA argues with your stats

It say 10 in 31 in Europa, 4 in 4 in CL. So that's 14 in 35. Which is 0.4

Which would make him 16th on all time Europe return list behind Lamela, Pavlyuchenko, Bent and believe it or not Soldado. (Tho half of his Europa games have come from the bench but they count in statistics)

Garth Crooks 0.56
Roberto Soldado 0.53
Mark Falco 0.52
Erik Lamela 0.49
Robbie Keane 0.47
Alan Gilzean 0.46
Darren Bent 0.46
Roman Pavlyuchenko 0.42

Let's not forget those games as a very very young boy.

 

[guiltyparty]

Let's not forget those games as a very very young boy.

Which is why people said he hadn't done it in Europe. Now he is doing it, you can't say he's always done it then caveat that with 'but he was young'. He's maturing, as you would expect

 

[spurs9]

It say 10 in 31 in Europa

TBF, only 13 of those were starts.

Edit: Only 1 goal was scored coming off the bench too, so he scored 9 goals in those 13 starts and 0 goals and 3 games were at the age of 18.

 

[spurs9]

And he wasn't a boy. Harry never played in Europe before he was 20

Yes he did, 6 of the games in your stat (inc 3 starts) were when he was 18.

 

[guiltyparty]

Yes he did, 6 of the games in your stat (inc 3 starts) were when he was 18.

Sorry yes, I'm going between databases and WhoScored doesn't go back beyond a certain date. The overall is from UEFA but they don't do season breakdowns (or my blurry eyes can't find them)

Point is you can't pick and choose someone's record. He has 11 goals in 14 starts in Europe over the last 5 years if that's your jam and you want to ignore the 11 sub appearances.

Out of interest, can you remember how many he's scored from the bench in Europe?

Edit: thanks for answering the last. That still doesn't work as he had whatever the total minutes he had as a sub to score too and only scored once. You can't just rule that time out as moot. Is why goals per minute is much more useful than per game in this case but fuck it if I can be arsed to work that out!