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What our opponents' fans are saying about us 17/18

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dagraham

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Early kick off won't help with the atmosphere at the enormodome, an early goal would be ideal.

Even if we can't score early, we have to be quick out of the blocks. All the games so far at Wembley against so called inferior opposition we've been very laboured the first half hour.
 

cider spurs

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The only difference is Zaha is back.

Sunday is a banana skin for sure. They will park the bus and be lively on the break. It won't be easy for the players to get up for this game after Madrid and a fast start is essential to set the tone and hopefully get an early goal.

Have to agree. Don't think this will be a "gimme."

They've a bit of pace about them, and with Zaha's pace and trickery I'd like to see Sanchez and Aurier (if selected) not going to ground too soon in the tackle.

Nothing against this when it comes off, just a lot more risky when against pace/ trickery to mis-time resulting in foul or worse, penalty.
 

yiddopaul

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Nah, sorry, we should and will beat Palace. There's a reason they're bottom of the league. They are not very good, losing 8 games already. OBVIOUSLY, we shouldn't take any team for granted, but I'm sorry, even if we are not at our best, we should be beating them comfortably. They have improved slightly, but that's not really saying much.

United and West Ham aside, we are building up a head of steam.
 

dg8672

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Merson said we can win CL :geek:

Danny higginbottom(Whoever the f**k he is) said England would beat spurs :woot:

Not quit sure how that would work but hey ho.Literally Saying Cahill Jones stones are better than Toby Sanchez jan lol.

Was thinking if I was a footballer and my name was higginbottom,I’d change my name.Nobody would ever take you seriously even if you were as good as kane.

Case in point: Shawn Michaels. Real name is Michael Shawn Hickenbottom. That certainly doesn't scream "Heartbreak Kid."
 

cider spurs

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Nah, sorry, we should and will beat Palace. There's a reason they're bottom of the league. They are not very good, losing 8 games already. OBVIOUSLY, we shouldn't take any team for granted, but I'm sorry, even if we are not at our best, we should be beating them comfortably. They have improved slightly, but that's not really saying much.

United and West Ham aside, we are building up a head of steam.

Totally get your point. But should and will can sometimes be miles apart.
 

ajspurs

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Totally get your point. But should and will can sometimes be miles apart.

Fully agree, I'm sure Chelsea were thinking the same, even if that was at Selhurst Park.

Even if they're not as bad, I still think we should have beat both Burnley and Swansea relatively comfortably at home and we didn't.
 

RichieS

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Fully agree, I'm sure Chelsea were thinking the same, even if that was at Selhurst Park.

Even if they're not as bad, I still think we should have beat both Burnley and Swansea relatively comfortably at home and we didn't.
On another day we would have comfortably beaten Swansea. That draw really wasn't half as worrying as the usual moaners made it out to be.
 

yiddopaul

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Totally get your point. But should and will can sometimes be miles apart.
Once upon a time, I would have agreed. But the most notable change with us over the last few years, is that we consistently beat the teams we should be beating. Could we lose? Yeah, of course, but I have more faith in us now in these kinds of games.
 

yiddopaul

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Fully agree, I'm sure Chelsea were thinking the same, even if that was at Selhurst Park.

Even if they're not as bad, I still think we should have beat both Burnley and Swansea relatively comfortably at home and we didn't.
Your not taking into account the 'Wembley factor'. It has taken us a while to feel like home.
 

cider spurs

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Once upon a time, I would have agreed. But the most notable change with us over the last few years, is that we consistently beat the teams we should be beating. Could we lose? Yeah, of course, but I have more faith in us now in these kinds of games.

Oh for sure. I too certainly have found a new confidence in us beating teams these past few seasons.
 

ajspurs

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On another day we would have comfortably beaten Swansea. That draw really wasn't half as worrying as the usual moaners made it out to be.

Maybe so, but Burnley was slow and ponderous, as was Bournemouth and we only just came out on top.

Your not taking into account the 'Wembley factor'. It has taken us a while to feel like home.

Yeah that's possible but there's also another argument that we find it harder against teams who park a bus at Wembley. To me, it's no surprise that our better performances have come against Liverpool, Dortmund and Madrid. All teams that are very dangerous going forward, but also with more open spaces in their teams than you would find against the likes of Burnley putting everyone behind the ball.
 

Yakflange

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On another day we would have comfortably beaten Swansea. That draw really wasn't half as worrying as the usual moaners made it out to be.

I'm definitely not in the "moan about any little thing that goes wrong" (or before it goes wrong!) brigade, but the results against Swansea and Burnley (and, arguably, the dropped points against Chelsea and Man U) could come back to haunt us. Points lost at this stage of the season are just as important as those in the run-in - but if we lost the league on the final day by drawing with Swansea everyone would say it was a total disaster.
 

yiddopaul

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Oh for sure. I too certainly have found a new confidence in us beating teams these past few seasons.
I think what many still have is a 'Spursism'. Our brains are so hard-wired to expect things to go wrong. I'm quite sure that if we continue our current rate of growth, we'll –eventually– be more optimistic!
 

Yakflange

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Maybe so, but Burnley was slow and ponderous, as was Bournemouth and we only just came out on top.

Yeah that's possible but there's also another argument that we find it harder against teams who park a bus at Wembley. To me, it's no surprise that our better performances have come against Liverpool, Dortmund and Madrid. All teams that are very dangerous going forward, but also with more open spaces in their teams than you would find against the likes of Burnley putting everyone behind the ball.

Agreed - it's a recurring problem that we need to find a consistent solution to.

My opinion is we're too slow and cautious in our approach to such teams. We've got the talent to play faster and batter teams like this offensively, so we should go for it a bit more.
 

StanSpur

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I think what many still have is a 'Spursism'. Our brains are so hard-wired to expect things to go wrong. I'm quite sure that if we continue our current rate of growth, we'll –eventually– be more optimistic!

THIS. At 3-0 on Wednesday with 12 minutes to go you could feel the tension in the crowd that we may still not win this game. I couldn't believe the negativity. The two guys either side of me were getting so worked up and then we conceded and it was like we'd gone behind. Sure Madrid were pressing but they should be chasing the game, it didn't ever look to me that we would concede another 3 in the final 10 minutes but "we've done it before" was the type of thing you could hear in the stadium. This is a different Spurs and the fans need to catch up to that fact (West Ham against a half first team not withstanding). We should have been bouncing that last 10 minutes not biting the nails.
 

DiscoD1882

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THIS. At 3-0 on Wednesday with 12 minutes to go you could feel the tension in the crowd that we may still not win this game. I couldn't believe the negativity. The two guys either side of me were getting so worked up and then we conceded and it was like we'd gone behind. Sure Madrid were pressing but they should be chasing the game, it didn't ever look to me that we would concede another 3 in the final 10 minutes but "we've done it before" was the type of thing you could hear in the stadium. This is a different Spurs and the fans need to catch up to that fact (West Ham against a half first team not withstanding). We should have been bouncing that last 10 minutes not biting the nails.
we did it the Wednesday before against Wet Spam. So you can understand the worry. surely.
 

StanSpur

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Agreed - it's a recurring problem that we need to find a consistent solution to.

My opinion is we're too slow and cautious in our approach to such teams. We've got the talent to play faster and batter teams like this offensively, so we should go for it a bit more.

But it is difficult when you play the likes of Swansea who at times were playing a flat back six! There simply isn't the space to get anyone through. That is why we need to play the likes of Alli or eventually Lamela as a second striker in those sorts of games to have someone who can do something a little unexpected and get past a man. Currently Harry gets double manned and you cannot play over the top to a runner like Son, or even play the flanks as they can pull two across to nullify the overlap. Our structure is great and we form triangles all over the first two thirds of the pitch but we cannot do it in the final third against the bus teams, we need to keep developing the plan b for this. That said I am confident for the weekend and then the NLD in a few weeks time should be much more suitable to our style.
 

StanSpur

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we did it the Wednesday before against Wet Spam. So you can understand the worry. surely.

It wasn't our first team defence or keeper to be fair so I don't see it as quite the same - our performance last night was outstanding from the first whistle and we controlled the first 75 minutes so fans should have been more confident but I know it will take time
 
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