What our opponents' fans are saying about us 17/18

[Scottish Spur]

I have the priveliged position of being a teacher in a high school in Merseyside.

Today has been a fun day.

 

[riggi]

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@OlyLister

Just spoken with a mate who works at the FA. He’s told me they’re taking accusations of Tottenham’s cheating very seriously and are going to ask Liverpool fans to keep tagging them in tweets.
2:36 pm · 5 Feb 2018

 

[worcestersauce]

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@OlyLister

Just spoken with a mate who works at the FA. He’s told me they’re taking accusations of Tottenham’s cheating very seriously and are going to ask Liverpool fans to keep tagging them in tweets.
2:36 pm · 5 Feb 2018

So are they going to clamp down on malicious libel?

 

[Woland]

Predictably, RedCafe is having fun. Their resident gif and video wizard Olly came up with this video.



It's silly but I know you guys like erm simple stuff. Click to watch

 

[Woland]

Scouser on RAWK:

'I bet that linesman reports people for not having a TV licence, the shithouse'

Granddad manc on RedCafe:

I do love the idea that in Liverpool this is considered to be one of the worst things someone could do.

 

[Woland]

You're blind mate. He pulls out, it's as clear as day. His foot wobbles because that's what feet do when you relax the muscles.

Is he Michael Jackson or something...

 

[spids]

I think that's an unfair reading of the officials conversation about the first penalty. Given that Moss has given the penalty, he needs to told categorically that Lovren didn't touch the ball to overrule the decision. The official has said he doesn't know, Moss has said he doesn't know, but that isn't enough to revoke the decision.

For the second I'd say it takes balls from the ref to back down and bow to the assistants clearer view. That's strong refereeing not weak. A weak referee who didn't want to give a second penalty wouldn't have let the assistant overrule him.

Slightly detatched, but the Liverpool fans getting pernickity about Lamela on or offside, should have a look at VVD and Karius at the taking of the first penalty. By the letter of the rules, the penalty should have been retaken.

Not really as the linesman said words to the effect of "if Lovren has not touched it then it is offside ... I need to know whether Lovren played the ball or not." Moss then looks blank for about 30 secs as the linesman tries to explain again. Then Moss says "I don't know if he touched it." If he didn't know if Lovren had played the ball then it should really have been offside (as if he did not see then he should give the defensive team the benefit of the doubt). Luckily for us (and him) Lovren did play the ball. But he got it right though luck and not judgement.

 

[Sanj]

Haha - this is classic.
Bin-dipper on Talksport proving the 2 goals should have been disallowed.
1) Kane is offside from the pass and then he dived - there was no contact.
** Really proved that one mate. Good Job mate - i'm convinced now.
2) Lamela not a pen as he was clearly offside. It was definitely offside as his brother was at the game, and he goes to every game, and he said it was offside. Also - the caller, via the tv, clearly heard the ref overrule the lino for the first goal, and then let the lino overrule him for the 2nd.
** Nailed it mate. If you brother says so - who am i to argue

Due to your irrevocable facts i will, as an honest spurs fan, email the FA now and ask them to overturn the pens and award Liverpool the 3 points. I urge you all to, also, do the right thing and email/ tweet/ facebook the FA to ensure justice is fully served!

 

[spids]

They are both completely different incidents but a lot Liverpool fans love to play the victim card whilst conveniently sweeping Heysel under the carpet. Their fans were an absolute disgrace that night and Juventus fans suffered and died because of Liverpool fans violent behaviour. Hillsboro was a tragedy, Heysel was animal behaviour and yet you'll never hear them mention it.

Let's not just point fingers at Liverpool fans for unacceptable hooliganism. Many clubs, ours included, were involved in heinous scenes on the European stage in the 70s and 80s that equally could have ended in tragedy.

 

[Hazelton]

Only Liverpool fans could watch that game, where we clearly were the better team and should have won comfortably, yet still believe that they were robbed by only managing a draw. They should consider themselves lucky.

 

[nicdic]

Not really as the linesman said words to the effect of "if Lovren has not touched it then it is offside ... I need to know whether Lovren played the ball or not." Moss then looks blank for about 30 secs as the linesman tries to explain again. Then Moss says "I don't know if he touched it." If he didn't know if Lovren had played the ball then it should really have been offside (as if he did not see then he should give the defensive team the benefit of the doubt). Luckily for us (and him) Lovren did play the ball. But he got it right though luck and not judgement.

The PGMOL statement says Moss saw and knew someone touched the ball, but didn't know that it was Lovren, which is what the Assistant asks. The Assistant can't make the demand to know from Moss. He provides extra info to Moss to make a decision. The decision can't be overruled because he thinks it could be offside. He could overrule if he knew it was offside, or thought it was offside.

 

[Angel Eyes]

2 of my best mates are Liverpool fans, both say we at least deserved a draw or on the second half performance all 3 points. I think that they are the exception to the rule. Both also said the pen decisions could of gone either way on any given day. Im going to have them both stuffed and mounted on my wall...

Are you 6ft 9 and 24 stone, ex SAS by any chance?

 

[Woland]

Heysel, offside-schmoffside, this thread...

 

[Gb160]

Heysel, offside-schmoffside, this thread...

Says the bloke who just posted a video that a Manc has made about Jurgen Klopp...

 

[samspurs92]

Haha - this is classic.
Bin-dipper on Talksport proving the 2 goals should have been disallowed.
1) Kane is offside from the pass and then he dived - there was no contact.
** Really proved that one mate. Good Job mate - i'm convinced now.
2) Lamela not a pen as he was clearly offside. It was definitely offside as his brother was at the game, and he goes to every game, and he said it was offside. Also - the caller, via the tv, clearly heard the ref overrule the lino for the first goal, and then let the lino overrule him for the 2nd.
** Nailed it mate. If you brother says so - who am i to argue

Due to your irrevocable facts i will, as an honest spurs fan, email the FA now and ask them to overturn the pens and award Liverpool the 3 points. I urge you all to, also, do the right thing and email/ tweet/ facebook the FA to ensure justice is fully served!

I was listening to this as well, this guy was a joke ha, so narrow minded he came across as a 10 year old who’s lost on FIFA.

 

[spids]

The PGMOL statement says Moss saw and knew someone touched the ball, but didn't know that it was Lovren, which is what the Assistant asks. The Assistant can't make the demand to know from Moss. He provides extra info to Moss to make a decision. The decision can't be overruled because he thinks it could be offside. He could overrule if he knew it was offside, or thought it was offside.

Now you are talking about retrospective statements today. I was talking about the conversation during the match that the ref had with the lino where the ref unfortunately came across as clueless, and said 'I don't know' which has fuelled the bin dipper conspiracy theories (not to mention him asking the 4th official if there was anything on the TV). All he had to do was look decisive (rather than vacant) and say 'a defender played the ball' (whether he knew it was Lovren or not). I agree that the lino put him in a difficult position with that line of questioning, and am not sure why he went over to the lino - he only appeared to go over as the Liverpool players demanded he did.

 

[Colonel_Klinck]

I've actually enjoyed today more than I do after some wins. The bitter Dippers on the radio all day has been pure entertainment.

 

[Woland]

Says the bloke who just posted a video that a Manc has made about Jurgen Klopp...

At least this is what the fans of our last two opponents are saying about the game we played last night.

Just saying ...

 

[SUIYHA]

Work has been hilarious today. Of all the teams something like this could happen to, Liverpool fans are surely the most entertaining. I showed the linesman's view of VVD's kick to them and one literally said "it looks like it was a kick from that angle but it wasn't"

Nobody brought up the fact that they were given a dodgy penalty for Firmino tripping over himself at WHL outside the box to get them a draw last season?

 

[TheChosenOne]

My sons PE teacher here in Ireland is an ex army Mickey Mouser, strange combination, but I saw him in the school
car park at 4pm and gave him a double Winston Churchill V sign.

He came over spitting with mild rage and as expected went to say the ongoing shite about the ref blah blah.

Twit.