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smallsnc

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Part of he media's agenda is about drawing viewers, whether on TV or on a website. This means that they are going tow say/write about what will get them a bigger audience. If being pro Liverpool or United gets more viewers or clicks, then guess what, that is what they are going to argue in many cases.

If you go on RAWK, they are banging on about Spurs (and specifically Kane and Alli) are the media darlings and can do no wrong. That anyone else would be penalized for their diving but those two are untouchables. I have always heard that there are 3 sides to every story, my side, the opposition's side and then what really happened.

I don't think there is a big conspiracy theory but do believe that the views expressed in the media are influenced by past allegiances, ratings and not really understanding what they are talking about.
 

Lilbaz

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Part of he media's agenda is about drawing viewers, whether on TV or on a website. This means that they are going tow say/write about what will get them a bigger audience. If being pro Liverpool or United gets more viewers or clicks, then guess what, that is what they are going to argue in many cases.

If you go on RAWK, they are banging on about Spurs (and specifically Kane and Alli) are the media darlings and can do no wrong. That anyone else would be penalized for their diving but those two are untouchables. I have always heard that there are 3 sides to every story, my side, the opposition's side and then what really happened.

I don't think there is a big conspiracy theory but do believe that the views expressed in the media are influenced by past allegiances, ratings and not really understanding what they are talking about.

Talking about it on here too.
 

NP4_Yid

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Newport fans are roasting one of our players :(

Their right back was a fucking freak of nature. Clearly they don't test for steroids in league 2.
Newport fans aren't roasting anyone - tongue in cheek comment which is very mild compared to some of the abuse Sissoko gets on here!

All County fans last night, and from what I've seen on the messageboard, were nothing more than complimentary about all Spurs players. Ali came in for some stick but that happens every game for him especially after his recent social media escapades.
Great night for all concerned and my kids got to see Spurs play at home for the first time. Only problem is now they want to go back and that will mean I don't get a day on the cider with my mates :eek:

As for Pipey I don't think anyone's brave enough to test him for anything!
 

GeneralBurk

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Not sure if it’s been mentioned earlier but I has anyone seen the Newport fans chant on the coach home.

You’ve got Dele
Dele Alli
I just don’t think you understand
He’s got more pubic hair
Than you’ve got silverware
You’ve got Dele Alli
 

HailKingLevy

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Looking back over this thread from our recent games (excluding Newport), The Man Utd fans say we are thugs and too physical, The Liverpool fans say we dive and cheat. Can a single team be labelled as both of these things? Just seem opposite kind of styles.

Although I'm glad that we have both strings to our bow.
 

Metalhead

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he's a hypocritical twat just playing to the extreme sjw political movement that is sweeping through Western politics. We should keep up the practice on the grounds of protecting free speech, let alone because it's an important part of our clubs identity.
Yeah but if asked about it and he replied 'fair play, it's all about free speech' or even 'no comment' I absolutely guarantee you that the right wing tabloids would add it to their list of things to slaughter him for.
 

Streetspur77

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he's a hypocritical twat just playing to the extreme sjw political movement that is sweeping through Western politics. We should keep up the practice on the grounds of protecting free speech, let alone because it's an important part of our clubs identity.

Is this the "extreme sjw political movement sweeping through western politics" that caused Trump or the one the that caused Brexit? Asking for a friend

Also I presume either you didn't read the article or just don't understand free speech in this country. It's not labour policy or anything, he just said politely, using his free speech, that he doesn't like the use. I disagree with him but I'm also mature enough not to sling insults at him because of an opinion that he put across very respectfully.

P.s There isn't freedom of speech in this country so good luck with your battle to protect it
 

Streetspur77

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Absolute joke of a man quite frankly, on par with May for his incompetence and idiocy, actually, scratch that, worse.

Typical gooner as well.

Why is he a "joke of a man"? One can disagree with his policies but even his harshist critic can respect his commitment to doing what he believes in over his 50 years in politics, especially considering the uncalled for ridicule and vitriol he's been through from the likes of you.

People complained for decades about politicians not caring about the people and then they got one who does and just started regurgitating Daily Mail propaganda about him being incompetent. Sad.
 

Metalhead

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Is this the "extreme sjw political movement sweeping through western politics" that caused Trump or the one the that caused Brexit? Asking for a friend

Also I presume either you didn't read the article or just don't understand free speech in this country. It's not labour policy or anything, he just said politely, using his free speech, that he doesn't like the use. I disagree with him but I'm also mature enough not to sling insults at him because of an opinion that he put across very respectfully.

P.s There isn't freedom of speech in this country so good luck with your battle to protect it
My old man hates the word after having grown up with it being used as an insult. He definitely doesn't agree that it's fine for Spurs fans (Jewish or not) to use it and he is the least SJW person you would ever meet and is certainly no fan of Jeremy's.
 

LamelasLeftBoot

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My old man hates the word after having grown up with it being used as an insult. He definitely doesn't agree that it's fine for Spurs fans (Jewish or not) to use it and he is the least SJW person you would ever meet and is certainly no fan of Jeremy's.

If your old man is Jewish then that is totally understandable and I accept that. If he isn't then I think that would be the type of extreme sjw type things they meant.

In my eyes you can't rightly get offended about something that doesn't affect you and is a 50/50 issue barring human rights etc. If the majority of the Jewish community said they don't agree with it then yeah we should stop but if it's a vocal minority then I don't think it is the place for non Jewish people to say it should be stopped, and Jewish spurs fans have every right to chant it no matter what.

It's a bit like those cauliflower steaks that m&s were selling for the same price as a cauliflower. Everyone was offended by it complained about it being a waste and the packaging etc, but for disabled people it was a god send and they now miss out because some idiots piped up about something that doesn't affect them. The yid chants don't affect Corbyn in the slightest so he should just fuck off back to Woolwich!

Anyway I'm stepping off my soap box now, I'm just sick of people being offended on behalf of people who may or may not be actually offended.
 

Streetspur77

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If your old man is Jewish then that is totally understandable and I accept that. If he isn't then I think that would be the type of extreme sjw type things they meant.

In my eyes you can't rightly get offended about something that doesn't affect you and is a 50/50 issue barring human rights etc. If the majority of the Jewish community said they don't agree with it then yeah we should stop but if it's a vocal minority then I don't think it is the place for non Jewish people to say it should be stopped, and Jewish spurs fans have every right to chant it no matter what.

It's a bit like those cauliflower steaks that m&s were selling for the same price as a cauliflower. Everyone was offended by it complained about it being a waste and the packaging etc, but for disabled people it was a god send and they now miss out because some idiots piped up about something that doesn't affect them. The yid chants don't affect Corbyn in the slightest so he should just fuck off back to Woolwich!

Anyway I'm stepping off my soap box now, I'm just sick of people being offended on behalf of people who may or may not be actually offended.

Well it's pretty hard to be a politician when you aren't allowed to talk about anything that doesn't affect you, it's kind of in the job description
 

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he's a hypocritical twat just playing to the extreme sjw political movement that is sweeping through Western politics. We should keep up the practice on the grounds of protecting free speech, let alone because it's an important part of our clubs identity.

Don't agree he's playing up to SJWism generally to be fair. He's been an "SJW" long before the term existing, supporting Mandela when he was labelled a terrorist and LGBT rights when such things got you labelled as Loony Left, they're genuine beliefs of his. I do disagree with him here though and suspect that he wants to seem tough on anti-Semitism when it is unfortunately a big problem in some corners of the left.
 

Hazardousman

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Why is he a "joke of a man"? One can disagree with his policies but even his harshist critic can respect his commitment to doing what he believes in over his 50 years in politics, especially considering the uncalled for ridicule and vitriol he's been through from the likes of you.

People complained for decades about politicians not caring about the people and then they got one who does and just started regurgitating Daily Mail propaganda about him being incompetent. Sad.

Son, you sound very naive.

Not getting into a political debate in a thread about what our opponents fans are saying, the only reason I piped up in the first place is because he is a hypocrite, but I will say this, if you think it's only Daily Mail readers who dislike Corbyn then you need to step outside of your political bubble.

And for the record, I don't read that shit rag, both that paper and the Guardian are extreme examples of what being stuck in an echo chamber looks like.
 

allpaths

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Is this the "extreme sjw political movement sweeping through western politics" that caused Trump or the one the that caused Brexit? Asking for a friend

Also I presume either you didn't read the article or just don't understand free speech in this country. It's not labour policy or anything, he just said politely, using his free speech, that he doesn't like the use. I disagree with him but I'm also mature enough not to sling insults at him because of an opinion that he put across very respectfully.

P.s There isn't freedom of speech in this country so good luck with your battle to protect it
Im not conservative nor a trump supporter both sides of politics are absolutely toxic, divisive and in desperate need of some common sense atm.

Their are so many bigger fish to fry then spurs fans usage of the "y-word", which if he cared about context he would know it is used out compassion and love.

I respect that he can say whatever he wants, but I can still think that he's doing it in a pandering non genuine manner. And to me that makes him a hypocritical twat chasing votes instead of thinking and acting on whats best for this country.

Just my take.
 
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Metalhead

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If your old man is Jewish then that is totally understandable and I accept that. If he isn't then I think that would be the type of extreme sjw type things they meant.

In my eyes you can't rightly get offended about something that doesn't affect you and is a 50/50 issue barring human rights etc. If the majority of the Jewish community said they don't agree with it then yeah we should stop but if it's a vocal minority then I don't think it is the place for non Jewish people to say it should be stopped, and Jewish spurs fans have every right to chant it no matter what.

It's a bit like those cauliflower steaks that m&s were selling for the same price as a cauliflower. Everyone was offended by it complained about it being a waste and the packaging etc, but for disabled people it was a god send and they now miss out because some idiots piped up about something that doesn't affect them. The yid chants don't affect Corbyn in the slightest so he should just fuck off back to Woolwich!

Anyway I'm stepping off my soap box now, I'm just sick of people being offended on behalf of people who may or may not be actually offended.
I see what you mean but a) it's a generational thing and b) I could still be offended (and I mean genuinely so - not 'virtue signalling') if I heard a racial term about someone who is of a different race to myself. My old man is Jewish and grew up with the experience of anti semitism and he is sensitive to it. I have no idea how many Jewish people are offended by it (but I dare say more amongst my Dad's generation because they experienced more of it) but even if it's a minority, they are still entitled to be offended. I am Jewish too but I get the whole 'owning' the term aspect of it. You will find that many black people of a certain age will also hate hearing the N word amongst other black people even though a lot of the younger black generation use it, for much the same reason.

Going back to Corbyn - as I said, the guy will get a load of stick from the right wing tabloids at the slightest excuse so any response to something like that will get him accused of soft soaping on anti semitism. I really don't buy or even like the argument that someone is a SJW if they are offended by something directed at a group that they don't belong to. I think back to the 1930s and Cable Street and thank goodness that there were people around to stick up for Jews (dockers, trade unionists, Irish people, Labour party members etc).
 

Hazardousman

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Im not conservative nor a trump supporter both sides of politics are absolutely toxic, divisive and in desperate need of some common sense atm.

Their are so many bigger fish to fry then spurs fans usage the "y-word", which if he cared about context he would know it is used out compassion and love.

I respect that he can say whatever he wants, but I can still that he's doing it a pandering non genuine manner. And to me that makes him a hypocritical twat chasing votes instead of thinking and acting on whats best for this country.

Just my take.

Could not agree more with this post, would give you 100 likes if I could.
 

allpaths

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Yeah but if asked about it and he replied 'fair play, it's all about free speech' or even 'no comment' I absolutely guarantee you that the right wing tabloids would add it to their list of things to slaughter him for.
Why should he care what the right wing rags think of him, he can't win with them no matter what. He should be more focused on being more genuine and helping out who the labour party was meant to, the struggling middle and working class that is being squeezed out of making a living in this country.
 

Metalhead

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Why should he care what the right wing rags think of him, he can't win with them no matter what. He should be more focused on being more genuine and help out who the labour party was meant to the struggling middle and working class that is being squeezed out of making a living in this country.
I think he can still manage to squeeze in a bit of time to comment on an issue over the chanting of 'Yids' though.

I won't comment anymore on it because I know it's not the appropriate thread for politics discussions.
 

Streetspur77

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Im not conservative nor a trump supporter both sides of politics are absolutely toxic, divisive and in desperate need of some common sense atm.

Their are so many bigger fish to fry then spurs fans usage of the "y-word", which if he cared about context he would know it is used out compassion and love.

I respect that he can say whatever he wants, but I can still think that he's doing it in a pandering non genuine manner. And to me that makes him a hypocritical twat chasing votes instead of thinking and acting on whats best for this country.

Just my take.

He made a comment at an anti-racism event, at a football stadium, on a Wednesday night, 4 years before the next scheduled election. Wonder how many votes that will win him.

Also I wasn't saying you were a trump supporter I just found it funny that it's an "extreme sjw movement sweeping across western politics" because that's not what it looks like to me.
 
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