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What our opponents' fans are saying about us 17/18

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Yid-ol

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So now all TS listeners are thick and racist?
Think you've just lost any credibility you had with that post.

He didn't say all, just the thick ones would call in and bombard the airwaves with racism. Which could be 1% of them or 99%, he didn't specify.
 

slartibartfast

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Not all of them are racist.
But they are all are thick lol.
Think you have to be a bit odd to call up in the first place to be honest so fair point lol.
Can't say I've ever heard a single caller being racist though and I'm sure they'd be taken off air immediately were that to happen.
 

Disconosebleed

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I think he got turned down for a job there or something...seems to have a thing about it lol.

I have a general issue with the conscious dumbing down of discussion, of which Talksport (along with some tabloid papers) is a major culprit when it comes to football.

It's cynical, lowest common denominator rubbish designed to squeeze money out of the thick and easily-enraged. Why use the ex-pros you get on to have an intelligent, informed and nuanced discussion, when you can just tell the presenter to dish out some controversial rubbish that he doesn't really believe but will anger enough people to keep the phone line ticking over and keep enough people listening in angrily to ensure the advertisers are happy.
 

Coyboy

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Photographers used to leave bottles of whisky on paul gascoignes doorstep then ring the doorbell. He'd pick it up and snap. Next day headlines, who's back on the piss again?

It's not about race, it's about what stories sell. They couldn't give a shit what colour you are when they fuck you.

This is almost like saying that if you’re sexist you can’t be racist as well.

They are scum bags; whether it’s hurting someone with mental illness or addiction or because of their race/sexuality/gender or nationality.

I’m not saying the Mail is a single issue paper that only targets black men. They are just one demographic that are targeted.
 

slartibartfast

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This is almost like saying that if you’re sexist you can’t be racist as well.

They are scum bags; whether it’s hurting someone with mental illness or addiction or because of their race/sexuality/gender or nationality.

I’m not saying the Mail is a single issue paper that only targets black men. They are just one demographic that are targeted.
Well thats the point we're making isnt it lol???
That they target any fker to sell a story and dont focus on one race or minority.
They'd sell out their own grandmother to make money.
Not sure who they'd report on who has no race, nationality, sexuality or gender etc. Everyone will fall into one of those catergories and could call foul.
Bit of a contradiction there mate.
 

Lilbaz

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This is almost like saying that if you’re sexist you can’t be racist as well.

They are scum bags; whether it’s hurting someone with mental illness or addiction or because of their race/sexuality/gender or nationality.

I’m not saying the Mail is a single issue paper that only targets black men. They are just one demographic that are targeted.

No. I am saying that you can be a prick to everyone no matter sex, colour or anything else.

Highlight in my post where i said differently.
 

Coyboy

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Well thats the point we're making isnt it lol???
That they target any fker to sell a story and dont focus on one race or minority.
They'd sell out their own grandmother to make money.
Not sure who they'd report on who has no race, nationality, sexuality or gender etc. Everyone will fall into one of those catergories and could call foul.
Bit of a contradiction there mate.

Ok I meant a characteristic which is not white male straight and British.

Point being is they target players disproportionately who happen to be black. The Raheem Sterling breakfast ‘story’ (that word used in the most loose way possible) farcically illustrates this point; as does the Alli photos at the boxing.

I could be a racist and also someone who enjoys manipulating people with mental illness. These things are not mutually exclusive.

Sorry maybe I’m not explaining it very well.
 

Coyboy

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No. I am saying that you can be a prick to everyone no matter sex, colour or anything else.

Highlight in my post where i said differently.

Well where you said “it’s not about race”. For me it is. What they do or don’t do to Gazza is irrelevant.
 

Saoirse

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The papers will publish whatever story sells copies of their paper. A large proportion of the British population, particularly those who still buy newspapers, may not hate ethnic minorities per se, but are more inclined to believe that they are e.g. morally deficient, often criminals, or not "really British" - in some way inferior. Papers with many of these people among their audience, such as the Mail, more often publish negative stories about prominent black people because they know this will interest that audience. That doesn't mean that they won't also publish these stories about white people, especially white people who are 'interesting' for another reason, nor does it mean that the editors are all frothing-at-the-mouth racists - but they do take commercial advantage of and thereby encourage this prejudice among their readers, which depending on your morals and politics is itself a racist action.
 

spud

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Interesting that we have a debate on the morality / ethics of the british press. Partly because they have none and so there is no need for a debate, but mainly because this thread is entirely the wrong place for it.

I guess opponents fans aren't saying anything about us now the season's over. Time to 'unwatch'.
 

slartibartfast

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Well where you said “it’s not about race”. For me it is. What they do or don’t do to Gazza is irrelevant.
How can it be irrelevant?
The point is they talk shit about everyone.
Sterling and Alli are probably the most successful, well known and talented English players as well as Kane in the PL lately so they're gonna get more crap written about them as does Kane. The fact they're black is neither here nor there imo. They'd be getting it no matter what their race.
And no worries mate regarding getting point across. We're all looking at this from different view points and different forms of media so I think everyones probably right to an extent.
We're just talking crap and giving opinions which won't make any difference to anything, unfortunately :ROFLMAO:
 

ralvy

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What I'm gathering from this thread is that now you can't say anything negative about any individual who isn't a cis gender, straight white male without being labeled at least one of the many "ists" by someone.

It doesn't matter what your intentions are, aparently people are now free to choose for you your motivations or intentions for saying something or doing something if they felt offended by it in some way.
 

slartibartfast

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Interesting that we have a debate on the morality / ethics of the british press. Partly because they have none and so there is no need for a debate, but mainly because this thread is entirely the wrong place for it.

I guess opponents fans aren't saying anything about us now the season's over. Time to 'unwatch'.
Agree.
This thread has been totally derailed, fallen into a canyon and exploded.
Enough.
Apologies.
 

Lilbaz

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How can it be irrelevant?
The point is they talk shit about everyone.
Sterling and Alli are probably the most successful, well known and talented English players as well as Kane in the PL lately so they're gonna get more crap written about them as does Kane. The fact they're black is neither here nor there imo. They'd be getting it no matter what their race.
And no worries mate regarding getting point across. We're all looking at this from different view points and different forms of media so I think everyones probably right to an extent.
We're just talking crap and giving opinions which won't make any difference to anything, unfortunately :ROFLMAO:

Seriously? I've done like a hundred posts in the cool to be atheist thread. Will nobody become a believer when i told them i saw jesus's cock in my pizza?
 
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