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What our opponents' fans are saying about us 18/19

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dondo

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It's an odd geography really, they are east London A13 to A12 and we are North London A40 to A12, sounds silly but it is how people move out into the home counties, Walthamstow is east of the Lea but is solid Spurs which also helps to explain why Chelmsford and Braintree are such big Spurs areas, mind you head on out beyond and into Suffolk and we are still big, I say this because I know Chelmsford and the better parts of Essex are important to you Riggi.:)


I grew up in the Walthamstow area and I would say it’s was split evenly between us/arse/west spam (in mid to late 90s when I lived there).
Now I live in Chelmsford i barely know anyone who is in to football and those that are don’t like support spurs (mainly arse/spammers)
 
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riggi

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I grew up in the Walthamstow area and I would say it’s was split evenly between us/arse/west spam roughly evenly (in mid to late 90s when I lived there).
Now I live in Chelmsford i barely know anyone who is in to football and those that are don’t like support spurs (mainly arse/spammers)

Go to a pub on match day. Loads of spurs in Chelmsford. I mean we have a club shop here for one thing!

I'd say I see more Arsenal about than West Ham.
 

dondo

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Go to a pub on match day. Loads of spurs in Chelmsford. I mean we have a club shop here for one thing!

I'd say I see more Arsenal about than West Ham.


My local is Chelsea for some reason?
Didn’t the spurs shop close down?
 

worcestersauce

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I grew up in the Walthamstow area and I would say it’s was split evenly between us/arse/west spam (in mid to late 90s when I lived there).
Now I live in Chelmsford i barely know anyone who is in to football and those that are don’t like support spurs (mainly arse/spammers)
I'm amazed how you can find it so diffferent to me, Walthamstow has always been solid Spurs and Chelmsford is packed with us.
Also I'm pretty sure the original Spurs shop in Chelmsford closed down due to redevelopment of the building where it was situated.
 

TheChosenOne

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I'm amazed how you can find it so diffferent to me, Walthamstow has always been solid Spurs and Chelmsford is packed with us.
Also I'm pretty sure the original Spurs shop in Chelmsford closed down due to redevelopment of the building where it was situated.

I knew loads of lads from Walthamstow back in the 1970's and most of them are still going to matches although they of course are now scattered out in the 'burbs.

Chelmsford as far as I know is full of Spurs fans, @Insomnia can confirm this - when he occasionally has trouble sleeping he counts Chelmsford Spurs fans in his head to get some kip.
 

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I'm amazed how you can find it so diffferent to me, Walthamstow has always been solid Spurs and Chelmsford is packed with us.
Also I'm pretty sure the original Spurs shop in Chelmsford closed down due to redevelopment of the building where it was situated.
Agree, to a degree , about Walthamstow - if you lived nearer Leyton more likely to see a mix of Spurs/Spam with a sprinkling of Goons. West Walthamstow (from the reservoirs all the way up to the Waterworks) then solid Spurs
 

dondo

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I'm amazed how you can find it so diffferent to me, Walthamstow has always been solid Spurs and Chelmsford is packed with us.
Also I'm pretty sure the original Spurs shop in Chelmsford closed down due to redevelopment of the building where it was situated.

Different circles I suppose? Maybe a different time?
I only really go in one pub to watch football in Chelmsford and there are few spurs fans maybe it’s different in other pubs but the general impression I get is there is a large mixture in Chelmsford with spurs in the minority
 

EighteenEightyTwo

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I agree with a lot of that.
I wish we would drop the y army thing. I get the history and why it was done back in the day but that was a long time ago now and it has not been relevant for a long time
How has it not been relevant for a long time? Almost every time I watch Spurs at West Ham or Chelsea I see and hear awful anti-semitic abuse. It’s by no means a problem of the past.
 

BringBack_leGin

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Sorry to contradict you but Harry Rednapp has often told the story about he and others seeing Bobby Moore being thrown out of UPTON PARK directors box for not having a ticket. This happened when the owner at the time didn't like something Moore had said in the press.
They have always been scum - I wonder when they will turn on Noble?
Harry said a lot of things.

It is quite well known that Moore hated West Ham for stopping him joining us. Essentially, the 66 World Cup approaching, he went to Ron Greenwood and asked to go to Spurs early as his contract was dwindling. Ron said no, and that if he wanted to go it would have to be as a free agent when his contract expired. Sir Alf was well known to not select out of contract players, so Moore had to choose between going to the World Cup by signing a new West Ham deal or coming to Spurs to partner Mike England. West Ham force him to stay and potentially the greatest ever centre back partnership of all time never happens.
 

TheChosenOne

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How has it not been relevant for a long time? Almost every time I watch Spurs at West Ham or Chelsea I see and hear awful anti-semitic abuse. It’s by no means a problem of the past.

I was at this match at Highbury in 1987 - but the sentiments are still prevalent and in everyday use by the usual suspects. Strangely enough many Arsenal Supporters I know are of the Jewish faith.

 

DiscoD1882

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I was at this match at Highbury in 1987 - but the sentiments are still prevalent and in everyday use by the usual suspects. Strangely enough many Arsenal Supporters I know are of the Jewish faith.


I would say more friends of mine who are Jewish support Arsenal. Im born. In the 70’s so may be an age thing. But growing up. I couldn’t understand why we were called yids when all my Jewish mates supported Arsenal.
 

dondo

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How has it not been relevant for a long time? Almost every time I watch Spurs at West Ham or Chelsea I see and hear awful anti-semitic abuse. It’s by no means a problem of the past.


Because our fans are still using the y word. If we stopped using the word other moronic fans would stop using it as a stick to beat us with (eventually).
 

wakefieldyid

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Harry said a lot of things.

It is quite well known that Moore hated West Ham for stopping him joining us. Essentially, the 66 World Cup approaching, he went to Ron Greenwood and asked to go to Spurs early as his contract was dwindling. Ron said no, and that if he wanted to go it would have to be as a free agent when his contract expired. Sir Alf was well known to not select out of contract players, so Moore had to choose between going to the World Cup by signing a new West Ham deal or coming to Spurs to partner Mike England. West Ham force him to stay and potentially the greatest ever centre back partnership of all time never happens.
Surely there was no such thing as a Free Agent back then? Even after contracts expired, the clubs used to continue to hold the players' registrations, and had had an absolute veto on a player's ability to join a new club. When Moore fell out with Greenwood, it left his future footballing career entirely under West Ham's control, and they hung onto him until they finally decided they'd seen the best of him and allowed him to drop down a division and join Fulham. (These days, it's hard to imagine that professional footballers were treated so badly by their clubs.)
 

BringBack_leGin

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Surely there was no such thing as a Free Agent back then? Even after contracts expired, the clubs used to continue to hold the players' registrations, and had had an absolute veto on a player's ability to join a new club. When Moore fell out with Greenwood, it left his future footballing career entirely under West Ham's control, and they hung onto him until they finally decided they'd seen the best of him and allowed him to drop down a division and join Fulham. (These days, it's hard to imagine that professional footballers were treated so badly by their clubs.)

If a player was unattached to a club he was also unattached to the FA, so it’s more that Alf Ramsay couldn’t call him up rather than wouldn’t:

https://www.theguardian.com/observer/osm/story/0,,1541919,00.html

Moore left West Ham on bad terms and was never again fully welcome at the club. The dispute went back to 1966 when he had sought a move to Tottenham; he believed that, with Spurs, he would have a better chance of winning the title. West Ham refused to sell - as the club was entitled to do in the era before freedom of contract - and Moore's determination to go almost prevented him from playing in the World Cup.
When his contract expired on 30 June, he was not only unattached to a club, but unaffiliated to the FA and ineligible to play for the national team. Alf Ramsey had to summon Moore and the West Ham manager, Ron Greenwood, to the England squad's base at Hendon before the two sides agreed to resolve their differences.
The dispute simmered on and, when Greenwood vetoed another transfer to Spurs four years later - which Moore, then 29, saw as his last chance of a big move - the relationship between the two deteriorated further. Finally, Moore was told he could leave on a personally lucrative free transfer at the end of the 1973-74 season.
West Ham reneged even on that promise and sold him to Fulham for £25,000. Although he still held the affection of the fans, Moore never went back to Upton Park, except for work. A friend told me how, driving through east London, Moore gestured towards the ground and said 'that's West Ham over there' as if it were somewhere he'd visited once, rather than the scene of so many of his triumphs.
 

riggi

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I'm amazed how you can find it so diffferent to me, Walthamstow has always been solid Spurs and Chelmsford is packed with us.
Also I'm pretty sure the original Spurs shop in Chelmsford closed down due to redevelopment of the building where it was situated.

Infact there was a bus every match day going from duke st to wembley last season. Pretty sure @wooderz got it.
 

spursfan77

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I was at this match at Highbury in 1987 - but the sentiments are still prevalent and in everyday use by the usual suspects. Strangely enough many Arsenal Supporters I know are of the Jewish faith.



That tweet is being saved for the next time the debate comes around.
 

Lilbaz

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Because our fans are still using the y word. If we stopped using the word other moronic fans would stop using it as a stick to beat us with (eventually).

We started calling ourselves yids as a statement against the anti semetic chanting. It wasn't the cause of it.
 
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