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What should Spurs do with Lamela?

Lilbaz

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Who would you drop?

Good question. In the summer everyone was shouting for an am. Now we seem to play 2 eriksen and dele.
We have son, lamela, sissoko (whom poch seems to like) edwards coming through, gkn. Maybe barkley?
I have no idea what poch is thinking about formation and tactics. So don't have a clue.

All i know is the squad is stronger with a fit lamela.
 

Gaz_Gammon

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Good question. In the summer everyone was shouting for an am. Now we seem to play 2 eriksen and dele.
We have son, lamela, sissoko (whom poch seems to like) edwards coming through, gkn. Maybe barkley?
I have no idea what poch is thinking about formation and tactics. So don't have a clue.

All i know is the squad is stronger with a fit lamela.

Agreed, but Lamela is no automatic first choice by the longest of long country miles. Barkley will be here in January and Poch won't be bringing him in the polish the glass on the new stadium.
 

Trix

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Agreed, but Lamela is no automatic first choice by the longest of long country miles. Barkley will be here in January and Poch won't be bringing him in the polish the glass on the new stadium.
If they are all at their best, as in the best run of form they have had for us....

..............Kane

Dele....Eriksen.....Lamela

.....Dembele...Wanyama
 

SugarRay

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If they are all at their best, as in the best run of form they have had for us....

..............Kane

Dele....Eriksen.....Lamela

.....Dembele...Wanyama

I'd pick Son over Lamela based on best run of form they have had for us
 

dontsalebale

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Who would you drop?

Bearing in mind we have from last season two twenty odd goal scoring midfielders, and the best assist midfielder (fifteen assists and eight goals) in the PL.

The Golden child by the way has scored ............. wait for it...eight goals in four years for us. Very good player, but seriously, even "fit and on form" he isn't going to be a player anyone who is sober would pick in front of Dele, Eriksen, or Son.
8 goals in 4 years in the prem playing as a wing forward, Ali and Son must be really concerned about their places.
 

dudu

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For me it's simply a case of taking ita day at time.

Not many players come back from a year out of the game and get back to thier former heights.

As he slowly integrates back into the side it is all on him to keep working hard and taking his chances. If he does that he will be another great option for us as he was previously.

He offers us something different to the other players we have who occupy his space in the team, there is no doubt bout that... I just hope he can get back to a good place sooner rather than later.
 

guiltyparty

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Who would you drop?

Bearing in mind we have from last season two twenty odd goal scoring midfielders, and the best assist midfielder (fifteen assists and eight goals) in the PL.

The Golden child by the way has scored ............. wait for it...eight goals in four years for us. Very good player, but seriously, even "fit and on form" he isn't going to be a player anyone who is sober would pick in front of Dele, Eriksen, or Son.

Eight league goals. 17 in all competitions, including 6 in one Europa season when seemingly he was the only one who fancied winning something.

Not a case of picking in front of. Case of having someone else when Alli is suspended, Son is off form or Eriksen is knackered. He’s also an entirely different player to all 3 and we rarely have attacking threat off the bench as everyone is on the pitch. We actually want to win something, which means having more than a starting 11.

As we’ve seen, we struggle to sign attacking players of late - someone of Lamela’s standard would be incredibly expensive to replace now, with a huge element of risk
 

guiltyparty

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Agreed, but Lamela is no automatic first choice by the longest of long country miles. Barkley will be here in January and Poch won't be bringing him in the polish the glass on the new stadium.

No one can be after the length of time he’s been out. But Alli’s been meh all season. Son is hugely off form. Barkley isn’t dusted yet and Sissoko is supposedly never the answer
 

Trix

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I'd pick Son over Lamela based on best run of form they have had for us

Maybe I'm remembering it wrong but Son's best run of form for us was playing predominantly as a striker when Kane was out. I don't really remember him putting a run together whilst playing as an AM. Of course he has often been in and out of the side so not his fault, but Lamela in 15-16 was superb. IMO he is also defensively better and the way he triggered the whole team press was a joy to watch at times.
 

guiltyparty

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8 goals in 4 years in the prem playing as a wing forward, Ali and Son must be really concerned about their places.

Alli is effectively a second striker. His midfield responsibilities are minimal and why his stats resemble a striker far more than a midfielder.

Son, to play devil's advocate, has had one good season, to be fair, and played a lot of it upfront when Kane was out. He's not scored or assisted this season yet, and in his first season he got 4 goals and 1 assist. If we're being as harsh on him as you are on Lamela, there's no evidence at all he will repeat his one very good season while playing in his actual position.

Oh and Lamela has been out for a year, so it isn't really 4 years is it. I mean, I'm not suggesting a lot of people here are trying to fudge arguments against Lamela, but the picking and choosing of stats is quite absurd.

Son - 4,613 mins - goals 23, assists 11 - goal every 200 mins, assist every 419 mins
Lamela - 7,190 mins - goals 17, assists 22 - goal every 422 mins, assist every 326 mins

It's almost like one is a striker/forward and the other is an attacking midfielder/creator, and it would be great to have both of them.
 

Gaz_Gammon

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Eight league goals. 17 in all competitions, including 6 in one Europa season when seemingly he was the only one who fancied winning something.

Not a case of picking in front of. Case of having someone else when Alli is suspended, Son is off form or Eriksen is knackered. He’s also an entirely different player to all 3 and we rarely have attacking threat off the bench as everyone is on the pitch. We actually want to win something, which means having more than a starting 11.

As we’ve seen, we struggle to sign attacking players of late - someone of Lamela’s standard would be incredibly expensive to replace now, with a huge element of risk


Lamela was "incredibly expensive" in the first place. Very poor return on investment if your looking at it solely from a financial sense.
This team has moved on from when Lamela last played, as it did when Anderson was constantly out with injury. Very good squad player, and an option not unlike Sissoko for Poch to bring on when he wants to try something different, but for anyone to suggest that he should be the first name on the team sheet when he is fit, is plain daft. He never even the first on the team sheet when he was fit.
 

adamsky

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Until we buy anybody else then Lamela is the only genuine competition for Ali & Eriksen. It is always good to have someone pushing to get in the team. I am excited to see him play in the 343 formation as I think it could really suit him.
 

Trix

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Lamela was "incredibly expensive" in the first place. Very poor return on investment if your looking at it solely from a financial sense.
This team has moved on from when Lamela last played, as it did when Anderson was constantly out with injury. Very good squad player, and an option not unlike Sissoko for Poch to bring on when he wants to try something different, but for anyone to suggest that he should be the first name on the team sheet when he is fit, is plain daft. He never even the first on the team sheet when he was fit.


Who is suggesting he should be the first name on the team sheet?
 

E17yid

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Hilarious

Almost as hilarious as you claiming Sissoko was the second coming and would signal the end of Lamela’s career with Spurs when in reality he’s so bad he couldn’t even get into the starting 11 with Lamela injured the whole time.
 

Gaz_Gammon

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Who is suggesting he should be the first name on the team sheet?


Berbatonghen:

Lamela when fit and on form will be one of the first players I would pick.

The thought of him playing in the team we have now is frightening. Really hope he pulls through this injury or whatever has happened in the past year because we need a player like him in the squad. Either to start or to bring on when were crying out for some creativity and non stop commitment.

So excited to see him back with the squad.
 

guiltyparty

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Lamela was "incredibly expensive" in the first place. Very poor return on investment if your looking at it solely from a financial sense.
This team has moved on from when Lamela last played, as it did when Anderson was constantly out with injury. Very good squad player, and an option not unlike Sissoko for Poch to bring on when he wants to try something different, but for anyone to suggest that he should be the first name on the team sheet when he is fit, is plain daft. He never even the first on the team sheet when he was fit.

Not in hindsight he isn't when 30m buys you 28-year-old Sissoko and 11m buys you N'koudou. He's not a steal like Eriksen or Alli, sure, but there's vast swathes of grey in between. I agree the team has moved on - it's now more on his wavelength, as when he joined he was trying stuff that people just weren't getting, constantly. We're a far slicker outfit now.

I said if he's fit and back to his best. And I said he'd be one of the first on the team sheet, not THE first name, as that's obviously Kane. He started the 8th highest amount of games in 15/16 and was in our highest appearances starting 11.

Lloris
Walker / Alderweireld / Vertonghen / Rose
Dier / Dembele
Lamela / Alli / Eriksen
Kane

He was our third top scorer and our second best assister that season (in the league, too, since you don't seem to like to acknowledge his Europa performances)

Lamela / Alli / Eriksen behind Kane all day long for me. Son either off the bench or switching in and out. And not always for Lamela, sometimes for – wait for it – Alli!
 
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