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Shearer also then gazed into his crystal ball to claim that if Mourinho was the Tottenham manager, Spurs would still be in the Champions League.

Juventus knocked Tottenham out the UCL with a 2-1 win at Wembley. But Shearer has argued:

I heard talk earlier in the season that the likes of Mauricio Pochettino is the future and Mourinho the past.

But last midweek Mourinho would have taken advantage of that draw Spurs got in Turin and the one-goal advantage at Wembley to see his side through to in the Champions League.

Just an extract but I'm glad he's been put in his place by the mighty Seville

Shows you how much pundits know compared to fans

Bad pundit good player

And a bit of a knob
 

Dov67

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There are some pundits (who I view as tabloid pundits) who are only capable of reporting accepted narratives. For example the whole soccer Saturday crew, Mersin in particular, Neil Ashton etc. It becomes the perceived accepted wisdom that of course we will sell Kane “when the big boys come knocking”, win a trophy, Poch to Real etc etc etc. They cannot possibly break out from that narrative and are incapable of critical thought, so they repeat the same shit over and over and over again.......to the point where whatever our form, whatever the previous result you can predict with 100% certainty what they are going to say.

They do this for two reason - firstly, click bait. It gives the vast majority of their audiences who are threatened, unnerved and pissed off by our rise some comfort. Secondly, they are to put it mildly quite thick.....incapable intellectually of independent critical thought. This is never more illustrated than when a journalist bucks the trend and challenges the narrative. Gab Marcotti and Henry Winter do this all the time and it’s so refreshing to hear.

I stopped listening to talk sport 2 years ago, and depending on who’s on Sunday supplement I won’t listening to that either.

So some pundits have an agenda, some are genuinely biased against us due to their own club allegiances, and some are just thick as pig shit.
 

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Shearer also then gazed into his crystal ball to claim that if Mourinho was the Tottenham manager, Spurs would still be in the Champions League.

Juventus knocked Tottenham out the UCL with a 2-1 win at Wembley. But Shearer has argued:

I heard talk earlier in the season that the likes of Mauricio Pochettino is the future and Mourinho the past.

But last midweek Mourinho would have taken advantage of that draw Spurs got in Turin and the one-goal advantage at Wembley to see his side through to in the Champions League.

Just an extract but I'm glad he's been put in his place by the mighty Seville

Shows you how much pundits know compared to fans

Bad pundit good player

And a bit of a knob

The funny thing is, he might just actually be right - Mourinho may well have looked at a 2-2 away to Juve (or anyone else for that matter), and set out to stifle out a 0 - 0 draw, with the possibility of a break-away goal at some stage just to wrap it up. What punters like Shearer fail to understand is that a manager like Mourinho probably wouldn't have got the 2 - 2 in the first place, after going 2 goals down after ten minutes. He would have been more likely to have just tightened things up, kept it at 2 goals to turn it around at home, and maybe, just maybe, nicked an away goal in the break. I seriously doubt his team would have went onto the front foot, dominated Juve pulled two goals back and arguably deserved more - at the risk of conceding a third and the tie being dead and buried before even getting to the home leg. So his whole point is completely and utterly moot, unless of course you are allowing that Poch was in charge for the away game and Mourinho took over only for the Wembley tie :rolleyes:
 
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BPR_U16

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https://www.google.co.kr/amp/s/www....s/shearer-liverpool-tottenham-man-united/amp/

Shearer also then gazed into his crystal ball to claim that if Mourinho was the Tottenham manager, Spurs would still be in the Champions League.

Juventus knocked Tottenham out the UCL with a 2-1 win at Wembley. But Shearer has argued:

I heard talk earlier in the season that the likes of Mauricio Pochettino is the future and Mourinho the past.

But last midweek Mourinho would have taken advantage of that draw Spurs got in Turin and the one-goal advantage at Wembley to see his side through to in the Champions League.

Just an extract but I'm glad he's been put in his place by the mighty Seville

Shows you how much pundits know compared to fans

Bad pundit good player

And a bit of a knob
If Poch had been the coach of Man U with that squad then they would definitely have got thru.

If Jose had been manager here the football played would have been poor and atmosphere at games non-existent.

Shearer is another pundit who needs to be updated
 

guiltyparty

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when he says:
'Having tipped Manchester United to win the Premier League last season, I’m not going to desert them now.

Although Guardiola has spent £200 million this summer, and Manchester City look formidable on paper, I just can’t rule out the Special One winning his fourth title in English football.
...
Verdict: Toss-up with City for the title Champions'

the comparison for Man Utd should be City. Money spent, wages, manager profile, recent title wins etc.. comparing them with Spurs is a distraction. Vs Spurs they look a success - despite being only 4pts ahead and totally outclassed in the last meeting - but they should always be given the resources available. Vs City they are way behind. Mourinho gets hammered because despite spending 600m since 2013, they play (more often than not) a dull game and grind out results when they should be able to dominate teams like City (and Spurs, and even Liverpool) have.

But then, Savage is a professional loudmouth and it's no surprise he chooses not to see it.

He’s also ex Utd and in thrall to Old Trafford
 

guiltyparty

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Oh yeah, forgot about Hoddle. Decent example of a legend tbf!

Problem with Hoddle is not just that he’s losing it up top but that he is connected to other teams too - specifically Chelsea and England, which is mainly what he gets asked about, altho Spurs are undoubtedly his first love. Scousers and Utd pundits tend to be all about that club specifically. “Ours” are like Lineker, who actually prefer Leicester, Redknapp/Murphy/Souness, who all actually prefer Liverpool, etc.

Also Spurs reps tend to be very nice and not confrontational - the Clive Allen’s and Paul Walsh’s of the world - while the fevered likes of Hazard and Roberts are kept out. I increasingly think Jenas is our pure pundit but he often gets ganged up on by the others. Which might even be some kind of subliminal metaphor
 

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Problem with Hoddle is not just that he’s losing it up top but that he is connected to other teams too - specifically Chelsea and England, which is mainly what he gets asked about, altho Spurs are undoubtedly his first love. Scousers and Utd pundits tend to be all about that club specifically. “Ours” are like Lineker, who actually prefer Leicester, Redknapp/Murphy/Souness, who all actually prefer Liverpool, etc.

I increasingly think Jenas is our pure pundit but he often gets ganged up on by the others. Which might even be some kind of subliminal metaphor
I wish that Mabbs had been a regular pundit.
 

Archibald&Crooks

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Didn't they try Anderton for a while?

This is what happens when you're a shit club struggling in mid-table for twenty years. Nobody gets much of an affiliation or makes much of a name for themselves and the odd ones that do have to want to do and be suited to it/good at it.
 

Bobbins

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Hmmm, like Redknapp he always strikes me as someone who happened to play for but is a Scouser through and through

A couple of seasons ago when Leicester won the title he and Sherwood were on MOTD, and Lineker asked who do you want to win the title.

Murphy and Sherwood looked at each other and Danny said “Come on - we’re Spurs boys aren’t we?”

He regularly talks about the club with great affection despite only being with us for a short time and not being treated that well when he was.
 

guiltyparty

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A couple of seasons ago when Leicester won the title he and Sherwood were on MOTD, and Lineker asked who do you want to win the title.

Murphy and Sherwood looked at each other and Danny said “Come on - we’re Spurs boys aren’t we?”

He regularly talks about the club with great affection despite only being with us for a short time and not being treated that well when he was.

Ha. He's married to a friend of mine's sister and he seems like a genuinely nice guy from what I've seen.

He's clearly a massive Liverpool fan, unashamedly, and suffers a bit from that 'no club is as big as Liverpool' syndrome, but always feels like he's pretty decent on us.
 

tiger666

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Damn the media only ever picking on us eh?

Arsene Wenger has complained of diving and assistant referees - but both helped Arsenal against Milan

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/footbal...-complained-diving-assistant-referees-helped/

Arsenal ace Danny Welbeck blasted over diving

https://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/933052/Arsenal-Danny-Welbeck-Scott-McDonald-Europa-League

Danny Welbeck labelled a disgrace after dive to win penalty in Arsenal v AC Milan tie

http://metro.co.uk/2018/03/15/danny...e-win-penalty-arsenal-v-ac-milan-tie-7391267/

DIVER DAN Danny Welbeck in dive storm

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/foot...ds-ac-milan-players-angered-penalty-decision/

Did Danny Welbeck dive? Arsene Wenger and Arsenal players sidestep penalty questions

https://www.express.co.uk/sport/foo...ck-dive-Arsenal-players-Arsene-Wenger-verdict
 

Hoops

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There are some pundits (who I view as tabloid pundits) who are only capable of reporting accepted narratives. For example the whole soccer Saturday crew, Mersin in particular, Neil Ashton etc. It becomes the perceived accepted wisdom that of course we will sell Kane “when the big boys come knocking”, win a trophy, Poch to Real etc etc etc. They cannot possibly break out from that narrative and are incapable of critical thought, so they repeat the same shit over and over and over again.......to the point where whatever our form, whatever the previous result you can predict with 100% certainty what they are going to say.

They do this for two reason - firstly, click bait. It gives the vast majority of their audiences who are threatened, unnerved and pissed off by our rise some comfort. Secondly, they are to put it mildly quite thick.....incapable intellectually of independent critical thought. This is never more illustrated than when a journalist bucks the trend and challenges the narrative. Gab Marcotti and Henry Winter do this all the time and it’s so refreshing to hear.

I stopped listening to talk sport 2 years ago, and depending on who’s on Sunday supplement I won’t listening to that either.

So some pundits have an agenda, some are genuinely biased against us due to their own club allegiances, and some are just thick as pig shit.

Whats really annoying is when you hear co workers repeat the quotes from last saturdays MOTD.
 

Hoops

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Ha. He's married to a friend of mine's sister and he seems like a genuinely nice guy from what I've seen.

He's clearly a massive Liverpool fan, unashamedly, and suffers a bit from that 'no club is as big as Liverpool' syndrome, but always feels like he's pretty decent on us.

Is your mates sister Joana Taylor?
 
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