What the pundits are saying about us

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  1. Spurs 1961

    Spurs 1961 Well-Known Member

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    As a Liverpool supporter mate texted me yesterday it is a great time to be a Spurs season ticket holder. We have had some really good teams since the late seventies but this is way far and away the best team since the 60's. Even when we lose it is hard to fault the way we approach games with the desire to win every game we play. When it comes together (as it has a number of times this season) it is some of the best football you are ever going to see.
     
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  2. Chris Finch

    Chris Finch Active Member

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    It was
     
  3. Shadydan

    Shadydan Well-Known Member

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    I think you're absolute spot on.
     
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  4. Lilbaz

    Lilbaz Just call me Baz

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    Careful Harry Redknapp got slaughtered for saying something similar ;)
     
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  5. Blackrat1299

    Blackrat1299 Well-Known Member

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    I don't know how we will manage next season, the pundits have just about sold our team around the world.
     
  6. guiltyparty

    guiltyparty Well-Known Member

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    Yeah, BY ME! :dead:
     
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  7. buttons

    buttons Well-Known Member

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    Absolutely this.

    I've supported Spurs for 25 years and for the vast majority of that time we have been shite. If Wednesday night is as good as it gets, i will die a happy man.
     
  8. worcestersauce

    worcestersauce "I'm no optimist I'm just a prisoner of hope

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    Don't call in the co-op yet because it's going to get a lot better.
     
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  9. KILLA_SIN

    KILLA_SIN Well-Known Member

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    I think Bellamy is the only pundit I have heard call it out as it is, that both our previous two seasons we have ran two teams close who were not in the champions league and it was entirely possible we could have won two titles. No one else will say it. He's gone up a few notches in my book.
     
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  10. spursfan77

    spursfan77 Well-Known Member

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    He won't make any headlines for saying it though and that's the reason why these ex players become pundits. They no longer have the adulation of fans and if they didn't go on tv they would slip away unnoticed. By becoming a pundit and saying something controversial or repeating the same old crap driven agenda all the time then you'll get SSN repeating it every hour or the Sun and Daily Mail making headlines and web pages about it. They are after an ego kick and recognition and that's about it on the whole.

    See Collymore, Merson, Redknapp Jn, Nicholas, P Neville, Keane etc for example.
     
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  11. shelfmonkey

    shelfmonkey It's all codswallop

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    Bellamy is my new fave pundit, agree with everything he said, Shreeves what a nob, just pushing the usual lazy narrative.
     
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  12. spursfan77

    spursfan77 Well-Known Member

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    Sorry to quote myself but this article in the independent is quite good and has a similar paragraph in it to what I'm saying here.

    Watch someone like Chris Sutton on BT Sport, or listen to Danny Murphy on Talksport, or Robbie Savage on whatever Robbie Savage does these days, and you are confronted with the discomfiting spectacle of a man whose livelihood quite literally depends on wringing every last drop of opinion out of himself, like juice from a shrivelled date.

    http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/...-become-a-high-stakes-opera-a8034646.html?amp
     
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  13. kr1978

    kr1978 Well-Known Member

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    Cracking clip, Bellamy looked like he was getting the right hump with Shreeves
     
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  14. StartingPrice

    StartingPrice Chief Sardonicus Hyperlip

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    I had this conversation with a United supporting mate (one of the more sensible ones) in the summer.

    His main argument was that they had had a better season than us, despite finishing sixth, because they had won a couple of trophies which was better than finishing second with a points total and GD that many years would have won the Prem.

    I explained to him that if it was United at the height of their pomp under Fergie and the places were switched, their general attitude (not necessarily his) would have been to laugh at us for getting so excited over what they consider to be minor trophies, while reminded us that they are United and their success is measured in the league, which is their bread and butter. I then pointed out that as a club, we hadn't finished third (which should really have been second) and then second in many a long year, but we had won the League Cup. Winning the LC was a great day out and enjoyable, but it didn't really raise our profile as a club. Indeed, we lost our strike force that summer and our manager, due to alarming league results, a couple of months into the new season. We finished third and second and didn't lose any of our really big players (sorry Walker). Finishing at such an elevated position in the league is more likely to encourage our biggest stars to stay, encourage better players to join and, ultimately, more likely to lead to sustained success. It was exactly what our club needed, rather than winning a relatively minor cup - great though that would be. I think United fans are fooling themselves a bit. LVG won a cup with them but flopped in the league, and they most definitely weren't happy with that. They got an extra trophy that they consider to be inferior anyway and drab football. They are only considering Mourinho's achievements acceptable in the short run on the basis that this season he will take them into a title triumph, or at least a close run second. I don't think they will be happy with his legacy if he doesn't do that.

    He agreed with me.

    You have to ask yourself, and granted the analogy doesn't really work because we have a much higher status and expectations, but would Wigan prefer winning a cup and being were they are now, or finishing third and second in the league, at the top end of the table for a third season and beating RM in the CL?
     
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  15. slartibartfast

    slartibartfast Grunge baby forever

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    I think people generally forget to take most things so called pundits say with a pinch of salt. They forget these people also have agents. They are all trying to create money for each other.
    When Barton shot his mouth of the other night on TS he said 'I just say it how it is. All these other pundits are just networking.'
    And thats all it is, networking.
    You scratch my back I'll scratch yours.
    Just listen to the media regarding Wiltshire for England. Its a fkin joke.
    Maybe its because I'm getting older and more synical or maybe its because of the glaringly biased bile regarding Brexit but I now view everything spoken or written with a slant towards an alteria motive.
     
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  16. Everlasting Seconds

    Everlasting Seconds Well-Known Member

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    I think it's about networking and opinions. A pundit must have opinions. Now, it doesn't matter whether it is a correct opinion, as long as it's headline-worthy.

    For instance: "Tottenham will probably not be relegated" - correct, but bad pundit
    "Tottenham can face relegation if and when Kane moves to Real Madrid" - really good pundit, but somewhat incorrect.
     
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  17. slartibartfast

    slartibartfast Grunge baby forever

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    Yes of course everyone has an opinion but whether you are actually voicing your personal honest opinion or bigging up /knocking down someone for other reasons is another matter.
     
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  18. StartingPrice

    StartingPrice Chief Sardonicus Hyperlip

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    I agree with everything you say, but this: In the present market, anyone who paid £350 million for them three would be getting something of a bargain. Kane, alone, is being priced at more than £200 million (not that he is for sale). I think the price linked with Coutinho was £135 million (unless I dreamed that...transfer fees are beginning to sound more like part of a dream-sequence these days). I think both Dele and Eriksen could be classed as as good or better than Coutinho. When looked at in this light, £350 million looks more like buy two get one free :)
     
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  19. JW72

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    Absolutely 100% this. Talksport and Sky lead the way. It’s nothing new, it gets people tuning in, texting, tweeting, clicking, sharing - and this sells ads. BBC ought to be above it but they are competing for market share to justify the license fee. It’s also not just us... we just notice more when we are the subject and right now we are the team people are talking about. As the saying goes there’s only one thing worse than being talked about....
     
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  20. Gb160

    Gb160 Aggressivity

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    This is what pisses me off about the BBC though, I don't think they should be trying to compete for market share, they should concentrate on quality and stop chasing the clicks imo.
     
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