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Col_M

Pointing out the Obvious
Feb 28, 2012
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The biggest mistake was the ref said to the linesman that he didn't know that Lovren touched the ball yet gave the penalty anyway after speaking to the fourth official. I'm not sure how the ref didn't see the touch from Lovren but thankfully the 4th official saw it. It was an identicial one to Liverpools first goal so it was good we got the decision too.

I thinking the REF did see the Lovren pass, it was the lino that said he couldn’t be sure. I don’t believe the 4th official is allowed any opinion other than managing the substitutions and the extra time.
 

cider spurs

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Was Salah not stood offside when Dier played the ball back toward goal?.

What's the difference...well I'm sure the answer will be Diers' pass was deliberate.

I can assure you Dejan tried to kick that ball deliberately, not our fault the numpty can't kick the feckin round thing cleanly.
 
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spud

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The thing that is irritating me the most is the number of reports that I've read and pundits that I've heard saying that a draw was a fair result. That might have been true if the match finished at half time, but we absolutely murdered them in the second half and anything other than a Spurs win is a travesty of justice.

And so much for Liverpool's 'cultured football'. It was like watching pre-Wenger Arsenal. Defend like fuck then sling an outlet ball to the fast wide man to create something on the counter. For the second time in two games we've been by far the better side against another of the so-called 'big six'. Do we get any credit? Do we fuck.

Fucking pundits.
 

TottenhamMattSpur

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Aug 31, 2012
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The thing that is irritating me the most is the number of reports that I've read and pundits that I've heard saying that a draw was a fair result. That might have been true if the match finished at half time, but we absolutely murdered them in the second half and anything other than a Spurs win is a travesty of justice.

And so much for Liverpool's 'cultured football'. It was like watching pre-Wenger Arsenal. Defend like fuck then sling an outlet ball to the fast wide man to create something on the counter. For the second time in two games we've been by far the better side against another of the so-called 'big six'. Do we get any credit? Do we fuck.

Fucking pundits.

We played so well in the 2nd half that we reversed being slightly outplayed in the first half to end up dominant in EVERY SINGLE stat except long balls and fouls conceded. Says a lot about who deserved to win.
 

Lou3000

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We played so well in the 2nd half that we reversed being slightly outplayed in the first half to end up dominant in EVERY SINGLE stat except long balls and fouls conceded. Says a lot about who deserved to win.

And to their magnificent first half, if it weren't for Dier passing directly to their top scorer, they would have finished the half with nothing to show for all their "dominance." I thought we made a lot of mistakes in defense in the first 45, but still dominated possession and midfield. We cleaned those errors up and were relentless in the second half. I agree with Poch, they were lucky to leave with a point. Salah doesn't score his second without Kane winning and missing that pen.
 

Hazardousman

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Jul 24, 2013
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We battered the fuck out of Liverpool the second half, there was only one team in it, they were doing the Leicester hoof it long tactic and even that wasn’t working.

I don’t care what the pundits think though, I have long since stopped giving a shit about them because it’s evident most of them have no idea what they are talking about or are so caught up in their own biases it would make no difference even if they did.
 

kmk

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Oct 5, 2014
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Good old Matt Le Tissier.

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aussiespursguy

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Le Tissier was a Spurs fan as a boy too. Almost joined us (in the Venables era) but changed his mind as his wife didn't want to move.
If ever a player that never played for Spurs but if they did would have personified the way Spurs played it would be Le Tiss. Absolute freak of a player.
 

Danners9

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Mar 30, 2004
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The whinging is hilarious! Even in the face of reasoned proof, with the rules clearly outlined and explained to them. The only ones still banging this drum are those who do not understand the rules.
 

TottenhamMattSpur

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To be fair, almost every pundit has now agreed they were both penalties. Much to my amazement.
Haven't heard from Lawro or Pinocchio but they don't count.
 

Johnny J

Not the Kiwi you need but the one you deserve
Aug 18, 2012
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To be fair, almost every pundit has now agreed they were both penalties. Much to my amazement.
Haven't heard from Lawro or Pinocchio but they don't count.
Except Ian Wright, who last night in the radio could not understand either why Lorven's deliberate attempt to play the ball made a difference, but even that a player in an offside position can't be flagged as offside until he's actually played the ball. It's absolutely shocking how an ex pro can't understand the latter.

The other hilarious part was Chris Sutton, whose whole schtick is to say blunt, controversial things and stick to them even in the face of reality. They played the clip of Kane saying "If a goalkeeper comes at me like that, I'm not going to jump out of his way" (damn right). Sutton then said "ah, so Kane's saying he'll go down whenever he feels a touch". The presenter and other guests obviously don't have the balls to tell him he's straight up wrong, so they played the clip a second time, and Kane still didn't say what Sutton said he did. Sutton's defence was then "well, I read [yes, read] that as meaning that he's not going down if any keeper comes at him like that, not that specific situation".

I realise that pundits aren't going to have the sophistry of Cicero, but I think being able to understand the basic rules of the game and being able to understand basic English are sort of essential.
 

Danners9

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Except Ian Wright, who last night in the radio could not understand either why Lorven's deliberate attempt to play the ball made a difference, but even that a player in an offside position can't be flagged as offside until he's actually played the ball. It's absolutely shocking how an ex pro can't understand the latter.

Last season, maybe, Arsenal scored against us when Wimmer deflected it into his own goal. Behind him were 2 or 3 AFC players in offside positions. Had he not touched it, they would be given offside and there would have been no goal. An accident but 'deliberate' in this instance means he made an effort to touch the ball regardless of where it ends up.
 

Phate

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I kept wondering if Sutton was listening to something different to me! Like Kane basically said if they want to foul me they can, fuck all about diving
 

spids

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I kept wondering if Sutton was listening to something different to me! Like Kane basically said if they want to foul me they can, fuck all about diving

In the English game this, ironically, goes all the way back to Owen going over Poch's outstretched boot in the 2002 WC. It changed the way English players and pundits alike approached players going down int he box. It became accepted that if a defender or keeper is stupid enough to leave a leg or hand out and not get the ball the player should 'go over'.

At Wembley in the cup semi-final against Chelsea when Moses went down under Son's reckless 'long slide', there actually wasn't any contact. All the pundits said Son was naive going to ground and gave the penalty away by letting Moses dive over him.

https://www.standard.co.uk/sport/fo...alty-after-heung-min-son-tackle-a3521256.html

Love it or loathe it, the concept of 'going over' a player's outstretched limb is now a well established part of english football culture.
 

punkisback

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Apr 10, 2004
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In the English game this, ironically, goes all the way back to Owen going over Poch's outstretched boot in the 2002 WC. It changed the way English players and pundits alike approached players going down int he box. It became accepted that if a defender or keeper is stupid enough to leave a leg or hand out and not get the ball the player should 'go over'.

At Wembley in the cup semi-final against Chelsea when Moses went down under Son's reckless 'long slide', there actually wasn't any contact. All the pundits said Son was naive going to ground and gave the penalty away by letting Moses dive over him.

https://www.standard.co.uk/sport/fo...alty-after-heung-min-son-tackle-a3521256.html

Love it or loathe it, the concept of 'going over' a player's outstretched limb is now a well established part of english football culture.
That's what's I've been saying to anyone who disagrees with me. Referring to that incident. Son was down long before Moses was near him.
 

Marty

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Mar 10, 2005
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The whinging is hilarious! Even in the face of reasoned proof, with the rules clearly outlined and explained to them. The only ones still banging this drum are those who do not understand the rules.
This isn't new though, as mentioned elsewhere on the site they did exactly the same with the Mane/Ederson incident. The delusions are unbelievable.
 

Danners9

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This isn't new though, as mentioned elsewhere on the site they did exactly the same with the Mane/Ederson incident. The delusions are unbelievable.
I half expect them to have t-shirts printed up for the next game.
 
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