What's Tim doing?

[225]

Although there's a thread about Sherwood at the moment, I thought this deserved it's own.

The guy has a lot of backroom and playing experience, but essentially only 6 months worth of management experience. So far, he's been linked to and seems to have rejected jobs at:

QPR
Newcastle
West Brom
Crystal Palace
and Norwich

Have I missed anyone out?

So far, it seems that he wants in excess of £1m/year (which is roughly £19,200 a week), and seems to be rejecting contracts for certain details. All of this seems strange to me, as arguably better managers (in terms of experience and proven season-long results) are taking these jobs happily, so it's hardly like he's refusing some sort of breach of human rights clauses.

At spurs he was earning, I believe, £500k a season in his 6/18 month contract. Prior to this, he had a really good reputation within the game and Blackburn and Brighton had been looking to hire him whilst AVB was manager, but it seems the club wanted him to stay. He is attributed to a number of successes at the youth development level, so can definitely have much to back up his CV.

Is his committing career suicide? The longer he leaves himself out of work, the less it'll work in his favour. If he's looking for a PL job specifically, here's the cut of it (in my opinion), assuming all jobs were available:

Chelsea
Man City
Man United
Liverpool
Arsenal

Any of the above are well out of his league

Southampton - was linked to this before, but I can't see them being interested
Tottenham - Maybe in the distant future, but he's got no hope and would probably refuse to go back
Newcastle - Already seems to have ruled himself out of this one

He's rejected jobs for teams of the calibre/position of this bunch, so can't see anything ever happening with them:

Crystal Palace, West Brom, Sunderland, Hull City, QPR, Aston Villa, Burnley FC, Leicester City

Which leaves just 4 teams:

West Ham, Swansea City, Stoke City, Everton

I can't see Stoke wilfully parting with Mark Hughes, nor Tim seeing them as 'big' enough. Swansea are unlikely to be able to pay him what he feels he's worth, which leaves the likes of West Ham/Everton as his only realistic options (and they're not even options atm).

If he's offered and refuses Villa, then I'm not sure what he will ever expect to exist.

So, what do you think? Has he been spoilt by having the Spurs job as his first? Is he clinging on to his small sample size win % too much?

 

[VegasII]

Gilet shopping?

 

[TTID2002]

He's an egotist and I care not for this man should be allowed to both be chosen.

 

[spurs mental]

Levy'd. He'll never work in the PL again. Levy probably gave him a shite reference.

 

[225]

Levy'd. He'll never work in the PL again. Levy probably gave him a shite reference.

He seems to be getting the offers though, on more money he was on at spurs, so it's him turning the jobs down.

 

[yankspurs]

He was at quite a few of Nottingham Forest's games in the directors box leading up to them sacked their manager, I believe. Everyone was convinced he's land there because of it for all of about an hour when they named Freedman manager.

Forest probably would have been the best job for him, IMO. Needs to hone his skills and mature in the championship before coming back to the PL. Not going to win any PL chairman over with just his win percentage. Especially after the way things were going the last month or so he was here having go's at his chairman and DOF.

 

[MyNameIsNicolaBerti]

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/row-zed/tim-sherwood-been-favourite-six-5151024

Alex Donohue of Ladbrokes (who gave us all these odds) said: "Sherwood is responsible for more burnt fingers than any manager in history. Punters have been convinced he's been a cert for more jobs than we've had hot dinners - and every time he has let them down."

I think that says it all....

 

[yankspurs]

He seems to be getting the offers though, on more money he was on at spurs, so it's him turning the jobs down.

I'm not sure he's getting as many offers as it is clubs turning him down. He was probably only offered WBA in the summer and just recently QPR. The other clubs, like Palace, Newcastle, WBA(in December) probably turned him down. I doubt Villa will go for him either. And Leicester and Hull(the next 2 likely to sack their managers) will probably look elsewhere also, I'd think.

 

[chinaman]

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/row-zed/tim-sherwood-been-favourite-six-5151024


I think that says it all....

Maybe he makes loads of money betting against himself.

 

[LexingtonSpurs]

I think it's cute that people think Sherwood turned down any jobs...

 

[Phomesy]

I think it's cute that people think Sherwood turned down any jobs...

Of course he has.

Look you don't have to like the guy but he did a good enough job at Spurs last year to be getting a job at most (below top 6) Clubs around.

And, of course he's going to be careful. If he takes on a QPR, without the right assurances, he'll be relegated and sacked with a demoralised and overpaid squad of losers.

Reckon Villa should take the punt. Then, one way or another, we'll see of Tim's REALLY any good.

 

[225]

Of course he has.

Look you don't have to like the guy but he did a good enough job at Spurs last year to be getting a job at most (below top 6) Clubs around.

And, of course he's going to be careful. If he takes on a QPR, without the right assurances, he'll be relegated and sacked with a demoralised and overpaid squad of losers.

Reckon Villa should take the punt. Then, one way or another, we'll see of Tim's REALLY any good.

He did enough, arguably, before he took the spurs job. He had plenty of suitors at the time, albeit championship.

The difficulty is that in Sherwood's mind, he seems to think he can move on to another club at the same level as us it seems.

 

[Blake Griffin]

maybe he's waiting to see what happens with ancelotti.

 

[chinaman]

When he was interim with us, it was said that he did not have the full coaching badge and so can't be appointed full-time in the EPL. Was that correct? And has he got his qualification now?

 

[Phomesy]

He did enough, arguably, before he took the spurs job. He had plenty of suitors at the time, albeit championship.

The difficulty is that in Sherwood's mind, he seems to think he can move on to another club at the same level as us it seems.

Yeah - that might just be the problem.

 

[nuttynoah]

I reckon he's waiting for Arsey Weener to leave as knows he'd walk straight into that job, just to stick 2 fingers up at levy.

 

[onthetwo]

hard to argue that he didnt do a good job with our Academy....after that....its just column inches, tittle tattle that i find dull.

 

[Spurger King]

Of course he has.

Look you don't have to like the guy but he did a good enough job at Spurs last year to be getting a job at most (below top 6) Clubs around.

And, of course he's going to be careful. If he takes on a QPR, without the right assurances, he'll be relegated and sacked with a demoralised and overpaid squad of losers.

Reckon Villa should take the punt. Then, one way or another, we'll see of Tim's REALLY any good.

Agreed. There were a lot of things that annoyed me about Sherwood, but he really didn't do a bad job. Also, his rant after the Chelsea defeat - though massively unprofessional - was strangely powerful and seemingly from the heart.

I still think there would have been a lot more fans in favour of him staying on if he'd originally stayed as a caretaker instead of insisting on a full contract. He painted himself and Levy into a corner with that decision.

As you say, taking the QPR job could end up being a huge blot on his CV (as could Villa for that matter). He'll be hoping for a position at a mid-table club where he's got a relatively established and safe side that he can try to build upon. I don't think he has the necessary experience to take over a club in danger of relegation just yet, and I suspect he realises that.

He will need to get back in the game soon though.

 

[hughy]

Arsenal job's got to be coming up soon.

 

[LexingtonSpurs]

Agreed. There were a lot of things that annoyed me about Sherwood, but he really didn't do a bad job. Also, his rant after the Chelsea defeat - though massively unprofessional - was strangely powerful and seemingly from the heart.

I still think there would have been a lot more fans in favour of him staying on if he'd originally stayed as a caretaker instead of insisting on a full contract. He painted himself and Levy into a corner with that decision.

As you say, taking the QPR job could end up being a huge blot on his CV (as could Villa for that matter). He'll be hoping for a position at a mid-table club where he's got a relatively established and safe side that he can try to build upon. I don't think he has the necessary experience to take over a club in danger of relegation just yet, and I suspect he realises that.

He will need to get back in the game soon though.

I don't know the answer to this - but how often to mid-to-upper table teams hand out jobs to managers with 5 months of managerial experience - at any level? Can't believe that it happens often...