When Berbs visits the lane for Manc U...
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don1
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this is my first posted on berbatov since he signed for utd and well maybe be my last, i was luckly enough to have seen him play and he was the one that lit up WHL for me, the man is a pure genuis, a class act i know people may have seen hoddle or gazza and they might say they were better but for me it is berbatov. i fucken loved him adored him will never forget the reading game when he scored his last goal and just looked all around him with his head in the air, it was his game his show, im not afraid to admit it im hurting at this moment knowing in your hearth and soul that he is going to do well with utd and maybe winning all around him and thinking he could have done that for us, so berbatov thanks for so many memories and some wondeful times that will live with me forever and maybe one day you will return to WHL and play for the club i love and weather i will boo him i dont think i could
tommo84
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On a more serious note than my previous post, I defend my right to boo him. There are many ills in football right now and this season we have the new "respect" campaign aimed at tackling the issue of respect shown to officials. But who the hell is showing respect to the fans at the moment? Certainly not the players. I've parted with good money in the past to make that man richer and made my throat sore cheering him on, offering him support. So after the way he's treated the fans, by his attitude to the club, he deserves to be booed.
And, to the guy who somehow blamed Daniel Levy for all this, and claimed Levy's attitude/know how justified Berbatov's actions of late, Daniel Levy is a good man who appears to have the interests of the fans at heart. He deplores making decisions which may anger us, such as selling top players and the handling of MJ's exit, and this is shown by his repeated public comments which are made to keep us fans in the loop, and to explain those decisions which he knows not all fans will agree with. Daniel Levy has at times put himself out there as a potential target for public ridicule in the hope it will enable him to give us fans what we want - success. So to anyone who thinks Levy is somehow the enemy in all this, all I can say is you're wrong.
Perhaps on that note, rather than focussing our attention on an individual who has shown no regard for us in recent weeks, we should, at our next opportunity, show some acknowledgement for the efforts of our chairman. He may not be a billlionaire Sheik, but we could do a lot worse.
And, to the guy who somehow blamed Daniel Levy for all this, and claimed Levy's attitude/know how justified Berbatov's actions of late, Daniel Levy is a good man who appears to have the interests of the fans at heart. He deplores making decisions which may anger us, such as selling top players and the handling of MJ's exit, and this is shown by his repeated public comments which are made to keep us fans in the loop, and to explain those decisions which he knows not all fans will agree with. Daniel Levy has at times put himself out there as a potential target for public ridicule in the hope it will enable him to give us fans what we want - success. So to anyone who thinks Levy is somehow the enemy in all this, all I can say is you're wrong.
Perhaps on that note, rather than focussing our attention on an individual who has shown no regard for us in recent weeks, we should, at our next opportunity, show some acknowledgement for the efforts of our chairman. He may not be a billlionaire Sheik, but we could do a lot worse.
Well, I see that many fans have began to hate Berbatov on the ground that he treated Spurs with disrepect. My version of the story.
Berbatov was a great player already when he was at Bayer. In the last two seasons there Bayer lost financial power and didn't play in the CL. He decided that it's time for him to move as the Bundelsiga as a whole gets weaker and weaker in comparision with Prmiership and La Liga. He wanted to go to Spain but the offer from Sevilla wasn't good enough. Valencia wanted him, too, but didn't make a firm offer. Spurs told him January 2006 that they want him but Berbatov wasn't sure and Bayer werec reluctant to sell. Then April 2006 Spurs came again and started negotiations. Jol managed to convice Berbatov that Spurs have great potential, 5-6 English internationals, 4th place in the table at that time. He accepted the offer. Then Man U expressed their interest but it was too late. Bayer bosses were shocked that Berbatov accepted Spurs' offer as already then they considered him one of the best strikers in Europe. Foeller tried to persuade him to wait for an offer from the likes of Man U or Real but Berbatov was afraid that no such offer may come and gave his word to Spurs some days before Ferguson to call Danchev.
When Berbatov arrived Carrick was sold and the start of the season was bad. Berbatov began to play well but Spurs were far from being able to compete for a CL spot. Berbatov realised that the gap between Spurs and the top 4 teams is not as small as he was told. And then Man U with Danchevs help turned his head. The rest is well known. He became sulker etc.
Now, the crucial moment is that Levy wouldn't let him go if he was as professional as Spurs fans wanted. If he gave 100% in every game till the end, then why to sell him? Who cares that he wants to go to Man U if he plays at his best? That is to say, the only way to force Levy to sell him was to become a "negative influence in the dressing room" and to put fans off. If he gave his best and fans loved him, Levy wouldn't sell him. Now, from the standpoint of Spurs fans this would be perfecty normal as he was under contract etc. But from his standpoint this would mean to sacrifice his wish to play for a team like Man U. I can imagine what Danchev and his father were talking to him: "The chance to go to Man U should not be missed, every year appear new stars like Benzema and they (Man U) could forget about you etc etc." So, it was something like: Now or never! To put it otherwise: for Berbatov the choice was: to sacrifice his dreams or to sacrifice his "professionalism". And he went for the latter.
Berbatov was a great player already when he was at Bayer. In the last two seasons there Bayer lost financial power and didn't play in the CL. He decided that it's time for him to move as the Bundelsiga as a whole gets weaker and weaker in comparision with Prmiership and La Liga. He wanted to go to Spain but the offer from Sevilla wasn't good enough. Valencia wanted him, too, but didn't make a firm offer. Spurs told him January 2006 that they want him but Berbatov wasn't sure and Bayer werec reluctant to sell. Then April 2006 Spurs came again and started negotiations. Jol managed to convice Berbatov that Spurs have great potential, 5-6 English internationals, 4th place in the table at that time. He accepted the offer. Then Man U expressed their interest but it was too late. Bayer bosses were shocked that Berbatov accepted Spurs' offer as already then they considered him one of the best strikers in Europe. Foeller tried to persuade him to wait for an offer from the likes of Man U or Real but Berbatov was afraid that no such offer may come and gave his word to Spurs some days before Ferguson to call Danchev.
When Berbatov arrived Carrick was sold and the start of the season was bad. Berbatov began to play well but Spurs were far from being able to compete for a CL spot. Berbatov realised that the gap between Spurs and the top 4 teams is not as small as he was told. And then Man U with Danchevs help turned his head. The rest is well known. He became sulker etc.
Now, the crucial moment is that Levy wouldn't let him go if he was as professional as Spurs fans wanted. If he gave 100% in every game till the end, then why to sell him? Who cares that he wants to go to Man U if he plays at his best? That is to say, the only way to force Levy to sell him was to become a "negative influence in the dressing room" and to put fans off. If he gave his best and fans loved him, Levy wouldn't sell him. Now, from the standpoint of Spurs fans this would be perfecty normal as he was under contract etc. But from his standpoint this would mean to sacrifice his wish to play for a team like Man U. I can imagine what Danchev and his father were talking to him: "The chance to go to Man U should not be missed, every year appear new stars like Benzema and they (Man U) could forget about you etc etc." So, it was something like: Now or never! To put it otherwise: for Berbatov the choice was: to sacrifice his dreams or to sacrifice his "professionalism". And he went for the latter.
liberty
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- Jul 30, 2005
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Petyr: That IS bollocks. Milner gave 110% right up until his last game at Newcastle. He was IMO Newcastle's best player, or at least right up there! He wanted to leave. He had made it clear to the board and to his manager - so he was sold!
I'm pretty damn sure that if Berbatov had made it clear to his manager and the owners of the club that he WANTED to leave and handed in a request we'd have been left in the same situation - it was quite obvious Levy was ONLY holding out because he wanted the most amount of money as possible.
To say the choice was between sacrificing his dreams or scarificing his professionalism is utter cobblers!
The way that Berbatov has behaved is unacceptable for any professional athlete. However, given his sulky nature, foot stomping and at times swaning around on the pitch it didn't particularly surprise me!
A fantastic, naturally gifted player who if applied himself more often would be so much better.
A good picture of him smoking in The Times today. I guess that too is a good reflection of his attitude!
I'm pretty damn sure that if Berbatov had made it clear to his manager and the owners of the club that he WANTED to leave and handed in a request we'd have been left in the same situation - it was quite obvious Levy was ONLY holding out because he wanted the most amount of money as possible.
To say the choice was between sacrificing his dreams or scarificing his professionalism is utter cobblers!
The way that Berbatov has behaved is unacceptable for any professional athlete. However, given his sulky nature, foot stomping and at times swaning around on the pitch it didn't particularly surprise me!
A fantastic, naturally gifted player who if applied himself more often would be so much better.
A good picture of him smoking in The Times today. I guess that too is a good reflection of his attitude!
drjimmy
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With the obvious Judas example, I really can't see the point of booing another player.
Save the energy for supporting the 11 that are trying to stuff the opposition.
Ok, so he used us for his own purpose. He isn't the first, he won't be the last, either, whatever people might think.
We are Spurs supporters, we ought to be used to being fcuked over...... :roll:
Save the energy for supporting the 11 that are trying to stuff the opposition.
Ok, so he used us for his own purpose. He isn't the first, he won't be the last, either, whatever people might think.
We are Spurs supporters, we ought to be used to being fcuked over...... :roll:
fieryjack
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:rofl: About 30 years ago i`d say. They were rubbish.
For some reason they always got faster, then it wasn`t a slow hand clap it was a reasonably fast hand clap, defeating the purpose.
Next you`ll be saying "lets chuck bog rolls at him" and singing "You`ll never make the station".
arail11
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I won't be booing berba when he returns.
But what really pisses me off is the fact that i have not read one interview where berbs thanks the club/ spurs suporters for his great time at the lane. At least with Robbie, Carrick etc they actually went on record and thanked the club/fans
But what really pisses me off is the fact that i have not read one interview where berbs thanks the club/ spurs suporters for his great time at the lane. At least with Robbie, Carrick etc they actually went on record and thanked the club/fans
TopSpurMan
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Face it he was a great Spurs player and will be a great Manure player - we got 30.75m for a player that cost 11m - that was a hell of a lot better than we did for Judas.
He thanked Spurs and the fans for the time he had with us and has gone, get real were/are we going to be CL material this year or next?
Lets just hope that we are bought by Dubai united cos that gulf (excuse the pub) is simply getting bigger and bigger - there is a top 5 now and it is all about money - which quite frankly we have not got!
And for the record I won't boo him and here is my prediction is he plays against us this season and scores he won't celebrate.
He thanked Spurs and the fans for the time he had with us and has gone, get real were/are we going to be CL material this year or next?
Lets just hope that we are bought by Dubai united cos that gulf (excuse the pub) is simply getting bigger and bigger - there is a top 5 now and it is all about money - which quite frankly we have not got!
And for the record I won't boo him and here is my prediction is he plays against us this season and scores he won't celebrate.
Krafty
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- May 26, 2004
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I'll boo him because, I admit, I'm a petty man, a petty, petty man.
And it might hinder his performance and help our team win. I wont boo him at the expense of cheerig on our boys, but I'll be booing him, and no doubt every other Utd player with the way they conduct themselves on the pitch, treating every little decision that goes against them as the biggest injustice in the history of the world.
And it might hinder his performance and help our team win. I wont boo him at the expense of cheerig on our boys, but I'll be booing him, and no doubt every other Utd player with the way they conduct themselves on the pitch, treating every little decision that goes against them as the biggest injustice in the history of the world.
roosh
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- Sep 21, 2006
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I know I probably would boo him if i was at the game bcos I would get caught up in mob mentality.
I'm really torn about whether I want him to do well or whether I want him to be struck down with a horrible career ending injury. The way he went about the whole thing really leaves me with a sick feeling in my stomach. He was totally unprofessional and showed a huge lack of respect. But then he was doing that after his first season. He started sulking after he couldn't get his first move to united and played nowhere near his best for us. he showed flashes yes but the effort that the likes of Robbie Keane showed was not there game in game out. And to say that he's thankful to us bcos we brought him to the premiership to showcase his talents is a pisstake - it shows that he only ever moved to us bcos he was afraid to go to one of the bigger clubs in case he didn't make it.
I think what makes it particularly hard to take is the fact that we had potentially one of, if not the best players in the world and couldn't hold onto him. it leaves you with a feeling of inadequacy and with the question of how big a club are we really? Maybe its about time that we took our heads out of the clouds and realised that we are still probably 3/4 years away from champions league football - by the time Ramos gets his squad assembled, more players come and go, and one of the big 4 slip up.
I'm really torn about whether I want him to do well or whether I want him to be struck down with a horrible career ending injury. The way he went about the whole thing really leaves me with a sick feeling in my stomach. He was totally unprofessional and showed a huge lack of respect. But then he was doing that after his first season. He started sulking after he couldn't get his first move to united and played nowhere near his best for us. he showed flashes yes but the effort that the likes of Robbie Keane showed was not there game in game out. And to say that he's thankful to us bcos we brought him to the premiership to showcase his talents is a pisstake - it shows that he only ever moved to us bcos he was afraid to go to one of the bigger clubs in case he didn't make it.
I think what makes it particularly hard to take is the fact that we had potentially one of, if not the best players in the world and couldn't hold onto him. it leaves you with a feeling of inadequacy and with the question of how big a club are we really? Maybe its about time that we took our heads out of the clouds and realised that we are still probably 3/4 years away from champions league football - by the time Ramos gets his squad assembled, more players come and go, and one of the big 4 slip up.
Freezy Water
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He thanked us by not being in the right frame of mind to play for us!!!
I've no problems with players wanting to leave but is it too much to ask that they do their best for us until they leave? i mean he did sign a 4 year contract for us after all!!
Lillywhite4life
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- Jul 12, 2005
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I would go one step further and stop cheering or booing altogether. Can't think of anything worse than you get the ball and the entire crowd goes silent. obviously not the Mancs but it would be the majority. Never gonna happen but Berbs means less than nothing now, he doesn't deserve anything other than a thank you for the 46 goals and after that he should mean as much to us as we (club & fans) meant to him ... Zero!
P.S I'm not actually bitter though I can see it would look like it. I don't ant players who don't care about the club I have supported all my life. Keano is almost the same and would be if he hadn't stuck with us when things were not so good.
Rant over ... sorry!
P.S I'm not actually bitter though I can see it would look like it. I don't ant players who don't care about the club I have supported all my life. Keano is almost the same and would be if he hadn't stuck with us when things were not so good.
Rant over ... sorry!
Freezy Water
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Its ok he'll get used to that at Old Trafford! :lol:
rez9000
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Boo him o ye faithful. Boo him until he cries, boo him until he bleeds, boo him until he DIES!!!
No-one, no-one has the right to treat our club with such utter disdain, with such poisonous contempt. He treated Spurs like a two-dollar whore and he deserves the same treatment as Scumbell got, and more.
He should be made to dread playing against Spurs. He should step out onto the pitch at White Hart Lane to suffer the full assault of every ounce of our hatred and disgust. If I could choose only one game to go to this season, it would be against Manure at home, just so I can tear my throat to pieces adding my voice to the choir of bile.
Fuck off Berbatov. I hope someone breaks your legs, you poisonous bastard!
No-one, no-one has the right to treat our club with such utter disdain, with such poisonous contempt. He treated Spurs like a two-dollar whore and he deserves the same treatment as Scumbell got, and more.
He should be made to dread playing against Spurs. He should step out onto the pitch at White Hart Lane to suffer the full assault of every ounce of our hatred and disgust. If I could choose only one game to go to this season, it would be against Manure at home, just so I can tear my throat to pieces adding my voice to the choir of bile.
Fuck off Berbatov. I hope someone breaks your legs, you poisonous bastard!
southlondonyiddo
My eyes have seen some of the glory..
- Nov 8, 2004
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I'll ignore him
It's a totally different situation to Rsol for loads of reasons I cant be bothed to go into.
Obviously I hope he gets wacked by Woody and breaks his leg which would probably serve him right but I wont be wasting my breath booing him.
It's a totally different situation to Rsol for loads of reasons I cant be bothed to go into.
Obviously I hope he gets wacked by Woody and breaks his leg which would probably serve him right but I wont be wasting my breath booing him.
that just makes me love him more...yeah lets focus on our team, not his! COYS
Lillywhite4life
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:clap:
SpurSince57
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A slow hand-clap (as someone suggested) followed by total silence would be effective, I grant you. It is, as you say, a totally different situation to Judas, two of the many reasons being that we knew he could be off and that we screwed £30m out of the Rowdies.
