When will the fans' mentalities change?

[muppetman]

What a ridiculous time to bump this.

We brought on Walker and N'Koudou - they brought on Costa, Fabregas and most importantly Hazard - probably £120M worth of talent?

Today wasn't about mentality - you need to see Chelsea on par with the other top teams in Europe - Juve, Barca, PSG, Bayern, both Madrids, would we expect Trippier, Dier, Son etc to beat those - I'd suggest you wouldn't - you'd just expect to give a really good account of ourselves which we did today.

Progress isn't a step change it's a gradual improvement over time - particularly us for the last few years, today was just another step on that road.

 

[Doctor Dinkey]

We'll keep on supporting the team because we're fans, and that's what we do.
However, there's no doubt to me that there's no team in the history of British football that loses as many big games as we do, and no fans that have suffered as many disappointments as we have.
So that makes us special! And when, one day, we finally win something again, the joy will be that much more intense!!!

 

[shelfmonkey]

After 40+ years of this, my mentality is set rock hard!

 

[nasescoba1985]

We'll keep on supporting the team because we're fans, and that's what we do.
However, there's no doubt to me that there's no team in the history of British football that loses as many big games as we do, and no fans that have suffered as many disappointments as we have.
So that makes us special! And when, one day, we finally win something again, the joy will be that much more intense!!!

Totally agree. You got Spurs supporters on here living in cloud cuckoo land who just accept failure and it's no wonder this club never win anything. We always choke at the most important stages of a season and always choke in the most important cup games. The writing was on the cards because we are such bottle jobs and it's in our DNA. Yes I am happy with the progress we are making but if we don't bloody hurry up and win something, these players won't hang around for long. Us Spurs fans just accept it and are happy to plod along winning nothing being nearly men all the time. I'm sick to death of being disappointed by this club all the time.

 

[Shadydan]

Ahh my thread - one day lads one day!!

 

[TaoistMonkey]

Totally agree. You got Spurs supporters on here living in cloud cuckoo land who just accept failure and it's no wonder this club never win anything. We always choke at the most important stages of a season and always choke in the most important cup games. The writing was on the cards because we are such bottle jobs and it's in our DNA. Yes I am happy with the progress we are making but if we don't bloody hurry up and win something, these players won't hang around for long. Us Spurs fans just accept it and are happy to plod along winning nothing being nearly men all the time. I'm sick to death of being disappointed by this club all the time.

If I hear another person say we choked I'm gonna go fucking mad

 

[Deleted member 27995]

Some fans have bought in heavily to what the media have lablled us over the seasons, words end up sticking because it suits the narritive ... Can't help some folk.

 

[Bobbins]

What a ridiculous time to bump this.

We brought on Walker and N'Koudou - they brought on Costa, Fabregas and most importantly Hazard - probably £120M worth of talent?

Today wasn't about mentality - you need to see Chelsea on par with the other top teams in Europe - Juve, Barca, PSG, Bayern, both Madrids, would we expect Trippier, Dier, Son etc to beat those - I'd suggest you wouldn't - you'd just expect to give a really good account of ourselves which we did today.

Progress isn't a step change it's a gradual improvement over time - particularly us for the last few years, today was just another step on that road.

This is literally the most appropriate possible time to bump this thread?

It's nothing to do with the mentality or the value of the players - that's not what this thread is about. It's about when the fans will stop being cynical and frankly assuming that we'll lose big games like this.

No team has ever lost seven semi-finals in a row - but you could probably guess Spurs would be the club to do it.

So we will continue to support the team - I never ever suggested we wouldn't - but the question is when will the assumption that Spurs will always find a way to fail disappear? And I say it won't go anywhere until we win something.

I don't think I've ever seen a team dominate as much as we did today and still concede four goals and find a way to lose. And yet when it happened it seems absolutely no one was actually surprised.

 

[JUSTINSIGNAL]

Lol

 

[beats1]

We brought on Walker and N'Koudou - they brought on Costa, Fabregas and most importantly Hazard - probably £120M worth of talent?

Thats such a silly point because we could have easily dropped Kane and Alli had they been poor recently, and then also say we brought on £120m worth of talent had we brought them on later

 

[muppetman]

This is literally the most appropriate possible time to bump this thread?

It's nothing to do with the mentality or the value of the players - that's not what this thread is about. It's about when the fans will stop being cynical and frankly assuming that we'll lose big games like this.

No team has ever lost seven semi-finals in a row - but you could probably guess Spurs would be the club to do it.

So we will continue to support the team - I never ever suggested we wouldn't - but the question is when will the assumption that Spurs will always find a way to fail disappear? And I say it won't go anywhere until we win something.

I don't think I've ever seen a team dominate as much as we did today and still concede four goals and find a way to lose. And yet when it happened it seems absolutely no one was actually surprised.

So it's Spursy is it? We lost 7 in a row, but rather than a positive of 7 SF's it's a negative that we didn't win. Most teams don't win and in particular most don't win when they come up against the elite (and by elite I mean wealthiest).

We didn't "find a way to lose" - we came up against an expensive outfit who are ruthless. We are a young team that make mistakes - oil money has compiled a Chelsea team that doesn't.

Part of our problem is that we are close and so we think we should win stuff. However, we are not quite as good (or rich) as the big boys. I also think the Poch era is different - if he'd been in charge for all 7 QFs I might feel differently.

My mentality is good - I have faith in Poch and the team - it's not if we will win something, it's when.

I'm hurting too - it sucks but this victim culture needs to stop - be it blaming fate, refs, mentality or whatever - we were just not quite good enough on the pitch today - but we are getting closer. That was so much of an improvement on the cup final against Chelsea a couple of seasons ago.

 

[Bobbins]

So it's Spursy is it? We lost 7 in a row, but rather than a positive of 7 SF's it's a negative that we didn't win. Most teams don't win and in particular most don't win when they come up against the elite (and by elite I mean wealthiest).

We didn't "find a way to lose" - we came up against an expensive outfit who are ruthless. We are a young team that make mistakes - oil money has compiled a Chelsea team that doesn't.

Part of our problem is that we are close and so we think we should win stuff. However, we are not quite as good (or rich) as the big boys. I also think the Poch era is different - if he'd been in charge for all 7 QFs I might feel differently.

My mentality is good - I have faith in Poch and the team - it's not if we will win something, it's when.

I'm hurting too - it sucks but this victim culture needs to stop - be it blaming fate, refs, mentality or whatever - we were just not quite good enough on the pitch today - but we are getting closer. That was so much of an improvement on the cup final against Chelsea a couple of seasons ago.

I never said the word Spursy - that's on you.

I don't really understand what you're trying to say or why you're complaining about this thread being brought up again - given the result today it's entirely appropriate.

Victim culture? From some maybe but not from me.

All I asked was when would the fans mentalities change? After another failure at a late stage it's a legitimate question.

Other than that I've no idea what you're so mad about TBH.

 

[DIEHARD]

Always the bridesmaid, never the fucking bride.

I want a fucking wedding dress and the whole shebang dammit

 

[Graysonti]

We played well in parts of our game but gave away three cheap goals.

That's the facts.

Not good enough and need to get rid of this to move on as a club.

 

[Gbspurs]

Always the bridesmaid, never the fucking bride.

I want a fucking wedding dress and the whole shebang dammit

Not even the bridemaid in this case as we didn't reach the final, more like usher.

 

[muppetman]

I never said the word Spursy - that's on you.

I don't really understand what you're trying to say or why you're complaining about this thread being brought up again - given the result today it's entirely appropriate.

Victim culture? From some maybe but not from me.

All I asked was when would the fans mentalities change? After another failure at a late stage it's a legitimate question.

Other than that I've no idea what you're so mad about TBH.

I might possibly have had a drink today. . .

What I was trying to say was that my mentality is fine. I expected a tough game which is what we what got. I've seen quite a few threads blaming all sorts - perhaps that's what you mean by the fans mentality?

 

[DIEHARD]

Not even the bridemaid in this case as we didn't reach the final, more like usher.

You're right. Actually we are the friend whose been friend zoned watching the rich guy fuck the girl you want.

 

[SpartanSpur]

Even after a bad loss today I'm starting to believe more.

We are naive, but damn we are talented. There were spells today where champions elect were constantly booting the ball aimlessly, they couldn't get out for love nor money. In the end they hung in well and their superior depth of squad paid off, but in all honesty their win hinged on our own mistakes as much as anything, we looked the superior side from a pure footballing standpoint.

In fact it's those mistakes in big games are the only thing that worries me these days, everything else seems to be improving year on year. Of course teams can drop silly points over a season, but overall we seem equipped to win a lot of games.

Don't think you can criticise any spurs fan for being a pessimist though, too many scars not to really...

 

[lillywhites61]

We played very well today. Controlled the game well but made three poor mistakes that ultimately cost us the game.

Their CB got man of the match in a game they won 4.2! That says everything about this game. We deserved more from it and we certainly didnt choke. We gave it all and probably should have got more out of the game.

My mentality has totally changed. I now go into every game truly believing we will win it and rightly so. This is a very capable squad of players now and everyone knows it. The Chelsea fans were shitting themselves at 2.2, not a peep until they scored as they feared the worse.

If we keep going in the direction we are we will start to win trooheys again thats for sure.

 

[guiltyparty]

Not even the bridemaid in this case as we didn't reach the final, more like usher.

Even the ushers get to go to the wedding

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