Why do people chant for JD

[citron]

im not talking about one on ones. im talking about having a shot at the big gaping goal when the ball is on the deck.

its just me being fussy about strikers, i'd prefer we play out n out strikers. no biggie.

 

[Stoof]

im not talking about one on ones. im talking about having a shot at the big gaping goal when the ball is on the deck.

its just me being fussy about strikers, i'd prefer we play out n out strikers. no biggie.

Oh sure. I understand you prefer to play strikers that score less goals, and generally don't help the team as much.

That's totally understandable.

 

[citron]

and we love him for things like this!

 

[Welsh_spurs_fan]

Because he's a good player and a very loyal one unlike some.

That goes for players and fans

 

[Has1978]

Love Defoe. And I think he's improved - greater upper body strength (used to get shoved off the ball a lot more) and workrate than in previous times.

Unfortunately for him, he's got to break through our best partnership since (or perhaps even including) Klinsmann Sheringham.

 

[eaststand upper s/ticket]

Right that has proved it i am going to sell him on football manager 2008!!!!!!
cheers for your replies

 

[PYiddy]

it's true though. why would defoe have been left behind in the world cup in favour of a young tourist walcott? bad luck i would say, that sven didnt trust him enough.. keane IS lucky, in respect of his goals.. (not questioning his overall strengths as a player and mentally). not so lucky for his managers.. great at volleys and pens. not so good at straight up, served on a plate shots.

so i would say he's lucky, but especially in respect of usually getting the nod over defoe, VERY lucky.

good luck to them both though..

so wrong that its funny

 

[Real_madyidd]

and if anyone thinks he will be sold in jan to the benefit of the club, dont be so silly. he is gonna get a mega bucks deal maybe in eng but probably in spain, prob real or barce..

Real Madrid or Barcelona? Are you drunk? Mental? A Mental Drunk?

 

[citron]

yes, yes, often, very often

 

[AllSeeingEye]

Why shouldn't we chant for our players?

Until Defoe leaves I will still sing the chant.

I can't even believe someone would start a thread about him like this.

If you think he's shit then the title should be. JD is shit! And take it from there....

I think he's a good player to have around right now, I trust Ramos will be able to use him.

 

[Stoof]

Why shouldn't we chant for our players?

Until Defoe leaves I will still sing the chant.

I can't even believe someone would start a thread about him like this.

It's not the point about chanting his name. It's about chanting his name when he's quite clearly on the bench.

It's unnecessary, it's factually incorrect and isn't fair on the other lads actually on the pitch.

"Yeah you're great, Berba, but Jermain Defoe he's a yiddo"

 

[The Apprentice]

It's not the point about chanting his name. It's about chanting his name when he's quite clearly on the bench.

It's unnecessary, it's factually incorrect and isn't fair on the other lads actually on the pitch.

"Yeah you're great, Berba, but Jermain Defoe he's a yiddo"

Stoofy baby, he's the most natural finisher in the Premiership. Would walk into any other team in the world.

 

[jimbo]

I think that's the point, that we sing his name when he's not on the pitch, potentially to the detriment of those that are. I don't know what effect it has, if any, but it's possible it looks as though we're saying, 'put Defoe on because the rest of our strikers aren't good enough' which is blatantly untrue.

Defoe definitely isn't the most natural finisher in the Premiership, he's not the most natural finisher in the squad, because he's not a natural finisher. His technique is to strike the ball hard in the hope of catching the 'keeper out. There's no accuracy behind it and so he's not a natural finisher. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't, and that's why he's 4th choice. A natural finisher to me means a player who can pick the right spot and place their shot.

 

[SpurSince57]

So far this season, JD 3 shots on target, 0 goals, Darren 'Rasiak Mk 2' Bent, 4 shots on target, 3 goals. There's a lot in this natural finishing lark.

 

[chrissivad]

It's not the point about chanting his name. It's about chanting his name when he's quite clearly on the bench.

It's unnecessary, it's factually incorrect and isn't fair on the other lads actually on the pitch.

"Yeah you're great, Berba, but Jermain Defoe he's a yiddo"

As long as its said for the other players who get sung/chanted/yelled at when on the bech or warmig up. It doesn't just happen to Defoe.

I dont see the problem as it will just lift the players who could be coming on.

And i have to agee, Defe isn't our most natural finisher. But i do think he has one of the best shots when he can produce it.

 

[paxtonyiddo]

Y exactly do u not rate JD? When he comes off the bench he mostly looks dangerous and gives us that burst we're looking for.

And JD may not be happy on the bench but he dont slag us off to the press like most strikers would.

On present form keano and berbatov are the two starters but having bent and defoe on the bench gives us a whole new dimension to our game.

Those who want him to leave would all of a sudden be wondering if you were right if he does leave in january imo.

 

[madroosta]

I have just got home from the game and i am a season ticket holder, whenever JD warms up loads of people chant "jermain defoe hes a yiddo???"

I find this hard to swallow as he wont even put pen to paper and sign a new contract so i feel a little "f**k you p**cks" is what he is thinking? so why are people all for him and not players on the pitch?? if i was a striker for tottenham and the fans sung for JD and he was not on the field i would be pretty pissed off!!

Just wondered if someone could tell me why he is held in such high esteem as he is never picked to start recently and that is under two managers.

he's a good player who needs our support, i think he'll get more chances now under Ramos and I reckon with our added support he'll want to sign. Well I hope he does and i'll sing it till he does! If he doesn't I'm going to seek out a Clarence Muffington and urge the board to sign him!

 

[alfiespurs]

Can you believe it he's one of the longest serving players, behind KING,GARDNER,KEANE ..... Lets hope he commits ....

 

[bomberH]

It's not the point about chanting his name. It's about chanting his name when he's quite clearly on the bench.

It's unnecessary, it's factually incorrect and isn't fair on the other lads actually on the pitch.

"Yeah you're great, Berba, but Jermain Defoe he's a yiddo"

Stoofy, it's not very often i disagree with you, in fact hardly ever. And i don't about this either.

No, hang on, i do. Massively. I haven't read through the entire thread but i assume from this post you were being serious.

While i agree chanting for someone's name when they're on the bench is a massive distraction and unfair for the strikers on the pitch, it is completely different when they're warming up. Chanting while they warm up has always been the case and is a regular occurrence, especially amongst the Park Laners nearest the subs (I would say West Stand, but, well, you know...) and especially if the player is a favourite with a large section of the crowd (which Defoe is).

The players aren't stupid. They know the crowd have their favourites and they should know if a sub is warming up. No more to it than that. If a striker's having a 'mare and the crowd start chanting for the striker on the bench, then i would agree that that can only do more harm than good to the striker out there. This has not been the case with Defoe.

With regards to your comment about the chant being 'factually incorrect', that too is bollocks of the highest nature. Whether he supports Arsenal or not isn't the point. He plays for Spurs and is therefore a yiddo. When most of our players take a corner, there are always shouts of Yiddo and it ain't cos they support Spurs, or did when they were a kid, but it's cos they're playing for us now, thus making them a yiddo. He could've hated Spurs with a passion for all i care when he was growing up, and probably did considering his hero is Wrighty and he played for the Hammers. All that doesn't matter, professionally, he's a yiddo and he hasn't let us down. Until he starts giving it large (ie Spurs are a small club etc) then he shall remain a yiddo in my eyes. And i shall let him know it.

And your last point about Berby. ?? Not sure what the point is there, he has his own song, i'm sure he's happy with that. Jenas needs a song and as it goes, 'Jermaine Jenas' to the tune of the Defoe song would fit perfectly but wouldn't necessarily catch on as he has too many 'disapprovers' in the crowd. Did i just make up a word?

 

[Stoof]

Stoofy, it's not very often i disagree with you, in fact hardly ever. And i don't about this either.

No, hang on, i do. Massively. I haven't read through the entire thread but i assume from this post you were being serious.

And thus the curse of the skim-read. No, I was being rather tongue in cheek, in countering what people have misinterpreted as 'having a go at Defoe'. I'm not talking about when he's warming up. I'm talking about the times he's just sat on the bench. I'm talking about the fact he gets a louder cheer than anyone, despite not really warranting it. I'm talking about the times the manager (MJ at the time) was BOOED for taking off Defoe and bringing on Keane. And then when Keano came on, the fans still sang for Jermain Defoe. I felt villified that Keane set up one and had a big hand in the other despite Defoe missing 4 really good chances. (That's the Boro game).

I'm as big a fan of the underdog as anyone else is, but there's something that just doesn't make sense about the way the fans treat him - I'll sing his song (and yes I was being a bit mlah about him technically not being a yiddo as he supports the other lot) but not over-the-topperly.

The press went on about how Defoe was marginalised compared with Keane last season. And people have bought it.

But if you look at the stats, Defoe had more starts and more minutes. So how does that make any sense that he should be marginalised. :shrug:

... I agree chanting for someone's name when they're on the bench is a massive distraction and unfair for the strikers on the pitch.

That's the only point I was really trying to make. And since we agree, we can go and have our way with that 14 year old Slovak now, yes? She's been waiting since half 9.