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Why is Commoli not being axed too?

Spursking

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I get so angry when I see threads like this. Comolli is the main man behind our progress in the past two years, and people are questioning his position???? Why should he go? I cannot believe how people are thinking here. Do we want to progress or not?

Comolli is the best appointment Levy has done.
 

bill

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Why is everyone saying Jol spent £40million. Is the buying of players not down to the Director of Football? Jol would have a 'say' in the players but I am sure he would not have the final say.

I have read the Bent was a Comolli signing (almost half that £40 mil). I have also read here and other sites that Jol wanted a LW (robben) and a decent central midfielder. Also he did not want Carrick sold.

I hope the new guy - if he is good - sorts out this mess!


I have to say that Comolli gives me the creeps!!! Something aint right about this guy.
 

bill

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Someone posted the DOF rankings. Are there any TOP 4 CLUBS in that ranking? NO!

Now are there any Top 4 clubs in Europe with DOF weilding unlimited power? NO!

DOF doesn't work, unless you want to make money by selling players and stay midtable. And about Comolli's scouting talent, even bats can see how shit Zokora is.


SO TRUE!!!!!!

When Dein left the scum we found out that he did all the transfer dealings (paperwork) from players Wenger chose.

The same system is done an ManU when Kenyon was there, I dont know who does this now for ManU but i guess the same system is in place.

I believe the 'Manager' should be in charge of a club and have a 'chief scout'. The Manager needs to report to the Board, the chief scout to the Manager - along with anyone else.

This is how i feel it should be done. The Manager should wield the sword and if it goes wrong then fall on it.

I would hate so have some sneeky snidey git running between me and my Board of Directors.
 

N10toN17

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The way I see it, the water is far too murky and from many of these type of threads it seems to me that there is total confusion amongst us the supporters over how the chain of command operates. Supporters claiming and counter claiming this and that player was Jols or Commolis purchase.

Levy has messed this about, surprise,surprise and he needs to get his act together, (unlikely), the new coach/manager needs to have control of first team purchases or Commoli should have control and the new coach reports into Commoli who is his boss.

Sort it out chairman and start behaving like one.
 

joey55

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I get so angry when I see threads like this. Comolli is the main man behind our progress in the past two years, and people are questioning his position???? Why should he go? I cannot believe how people are thinking here. Do we want to progress or not?

Comolli is the best appointment Levy has done.

HAven't we gone backwards in the last 2 years? I'm sure this time 2 years ago we were 4th in the Prem:shrug:. In fact during Comollis' first transfer window we were 4th and now we are 18th. I don't think we should sack Comolli and think he has done well in certain aspects of his job and less well in others, but upto this point I don't think you can claim we've progressed under him. In fact comparitively with other clubs in the last 2 years we've gone backwards. The progress made at the likes of Pompey, City, Man Utd, Arsenal and Villa is dramtic compared to ours. I didn't think utd had a chance of winning the title last season but they progressed. When Comolli took over with us Arsenal were in 5th and last time I checked they were at the top of the Prem. Weren't Pompey heading towards relegation? Those sides represent progress, whilst we clearly don't. Though I want to make it clear again, i don't particuarly blame Comolli for this.
 

DogsOfWar

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Erm, I specifically mentioned he made the team unbalanced BECAUSE HE BRINGS IN THE KIDS.

Too much emphasis has been placed on youth. Lets not be fooled, players like Botang Kaboul etc cost us a friken fortune.

How about you read the thread before you scoff?

The trouble with this argument is that we still have the same team that came fifth last year except that they have another years experience so theoretically should be better.
So replacing dross like Murphy and Ziegler with the likes of Bale, Boateng and Taraabt has only made the squad stronger.

The second point is that we could still have fielded a team of 25+ year olds if Jol had wanted to. Berbatov, Keane, Malbranque, Zokora, Tainio, Chimbonda, Lee, Rocha, Gardner, Robinson etc so there is plenty of experience in the current side.
When you add all the kids in it is the strongest squad we have had in almost two decades, a view that was obviously shared by the board, which is why they got rid of Jol.

I'm not naive enough to believe a couple of additions such as Petrov and Distin wouldn't have improved things but it is certainly no excuse for 1 win in 10.
 

whendayearendsin1

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Simple answer the board and especially Levy think the world of him, they believe in him more then Jol. Dragon1 on COYS has said it many times and a board member say it to my face last year. They think he is a very intelligent man who will help us break into the top 4.

I personally don’t think he is as good as the board think he is, but can’t rid of the coach and DoF on the same day.
 

nicdic

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The manager has the final say on the players, no doubt in that. Jol has always wanted four strikers, and with Mido leaving, we needed another. I expect that Comolli is staying as it was him alongside Levy that chose the new manager. For the system to work, they have to get along, just like Arnesen chosing Jol.
 

LSUY

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I wasn't 'scoffing' at you in particular. But while i'm here...

Comolli doesn't put the profitability condition on potential incoming players. Levy does. The buying of kids and the reluctance to spend money on older players is a result of Levy's business plan. Comprende?

But it's Comolli's job to convince Levy and the board that a squad of youngsters is a stupid idea. That is why Directors of Football sit on the board - to explain football matters to business man that obviously know very little about the sport.

If Comolli and Jol were both saying we need Petrov and/or Chivu then Levy wouldn't have been able to do his usual thing of sticking his fingers in his ears shouting 'I'm not listening'.
 

Rabbi_Krustofski

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God, leave Comolli alone. He's got nothing to do with the mess on the pitch. He only signs the players Jol agreed to. If anything we've got so much to thank Commoli for. Kaboul & Taraabt to start with!
 

BoringOldFan

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God, leave Comolli alone. He's got nothing to do with the mess on the pitch. He only signs the players Jol agreed to. If anything we've got so much to thank Commoli for. Kaboul & Taraabt to start with!

Jol has been crying out for a left winger since he arrived. Three months before he left he got a converted left back.
 

Spurs_Q8

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I am so sick of hearing this. Why can't you at least give him one full fucking season at least to prove himself before you say he's not worth how much we paid for him.

the mean point about this signing .. If Berbatov or Keane missed larger games than last season when they were Key players for us .. ok, but Is it important to spend 16m for 3rd striker while the are a problems GK, RB, CB , DM, LW ? even RM, only Lennon !

also, we know MJ didn't want him and Bale is the only summer signing who wanted by him, and that's why I'm angry for. You can't sack the manager for poor results while he didn't get his own targets and what's he need.

Even if Bent scored 15-20 goals this season, this won't make him good signing, because Defoescored 18 last season and Mido scored 13 when he was fit. If Comolli improved other positions while many fans are talking about in recent months, you can see Viduka (Free) or Santa Cruz (3.5m) or even Defoe, Mido, Pekhart are scoring enough goals, may be the same No. of goals with Bent with current squad. That's far to get better results to keep our manager here.

I get so angry when I see threads like this. Comolli is the main man behind our progress in the past two years, and people are questioning his position???? Why should he go? I cannot believe how people are thinking here. Do we want to progress or not?

Comolli is the best appointment Levy has done.

yeah, we improved ..

I don't want to talk= too much about this ..

you can see Jewell signed Chimbonda for 0.4m and Comolli signed him for 5m .. where is his scouting network before his joining to Wigan ? let alone Geremi signed for Newcastle for FREE

you can see Man City signed Elano for 4m ( i think ) and we signed injury prone player Boateng for 5.4m ..

you can see Santa Cruz signed for Blackurn (3.5m) & Viduka for Newcasltle (FREE) & Miller for Derby (1m) & Bianchi for Man City (8m) .... & Derren Bent for 16m.


- The only good signings by DC : Kaboul, Taarabt, Pekhart.

- Martin Jol signings: G. Bale & Berbatov .. that's financially is real Progress.
 

nicdic

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Spurs_Q8 you think you know that.

You know nothing.
 

gibbs131

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I get so angry when I see threads like this. Comolli is the main man behind our progress in the past two years, and people are questioning his position???? Why should he go? I cannot believe how people are thinking here. Do we want to progress or not?

Comolli is the best appointment Levy has done.

Are you getting him mixed up with Arnesen?
 

gibbs131

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the mean point about this signing .. If Berbatov or Keane missed larger games than last season when they were Key players for us .. ok, but Is it important to spend 16m for 3rd striker while the are a problems GK, RB, CB , DM, LW ? even RM, only Lennon !

also, we know MJ didn't want him and Bale is the only summer signing who wanted by him, and that's why I'm angry for. You can't sack the manager for poor results while he didn't get his own targets and what's he need.

Even if Bent scored 15-20 goals this season, this won't make him good signing, because Defoescored 18 last season and Mido scored 13 when he was fit. If Comolli improved other positions while many fans are talking about in recent months, you can see Viduka (Free) or Santa Cruz (3.5m) or even Defoe, Mido, Pekhart are scoring enough goals, may be the same No. of goals with Bent with current squad. That's far to get better results to keep our manager here.



yeah, we improved ..

I don't want to talk= too much about this ..

you can see Jewell signed Chimbonda for 0.4m and Comolli signed him for 5m .. where is his scouting network before his joining to Wigan ? let alone Geremi signed for Newcastle for FREE

you can see Man City signed Elano for 4m ( i think ) and we signed injury prone player Boateng for 5.4m ..

you can see Santa Cruz signed for Blackurn (3.5m) & Viduka for Newcasltle (FREE) & Miller for Derby (1m) & Bianchi for Man City (8m) .... & Derren Bent for 16m.


- The only good signings by DC : Kaboul, Taarabt, Pekhart.

- Martin Jol signings: G. Bale & Berbatov .. that's financially is real Progress.

Yep. Its not like he is unearthing a diamond. Kaboul was French u21 captain and cost us through the nose.
 

nicdic

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If you can show me what you are basing your assumptions on?

You're just picking up on rumours because Bent stays on the bench. Both Jol and Comoli have said that Jol has the final say on the players. No reason not to believe them.
 

Spurs_Q8

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If you can show me what you are basing your assumptions on?

You're just picking up on rumours because Bent stays on the bench. Both Jol and Comoli have said that Jol has the final say on the players. No reason not to believe them.

Jol also said that no problems between him and Berbatov .. didn't he ? but we saw on TV how many times Berbatov warming up .. Also, three days ago MJ said that he won't leave and he has full backing ..

Comolli also said that he will keep English policy .. and most of his signings are french or with French connections ? he also said that 'Every thing is fine with Jol, 10 days latter and MJ sacked' ...

so what .. Ian Wright who backed MJ and SWP signings to Spurs, said that he heard

can't see they are doing what they are saying 100%, don't believe every comments on Media .. Comolli and MJ can't tell us the truth or what's happening behind the scenes, it's too hard for them and every employer.

Also, let alone talking about 'Bent' .. MJ sacked, I'm calling for more fair decision and Also Comolli should be blamed .. Why he gone for these names for that price and they didn't try and get Elano or Santa Cruz instead of Boateng & Bent for around 21m ?
 

Real_madyidd

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Commoli isn't getting sacked because he is the Director of football. He has done his job, reporting to the board regarding matters on the pitch, he has also done his job (the first thing he has really done) in sacking the manager. It is now his job to appoint a new manager that must deliver on the pitch. If this one doesn't work we have to ask "is our DoF upto the job?"

Do try to remember that Jol was recommended by Arneson. It worked out pretty good, now Commoli has his turn.
 
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