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synththfc

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Premium Sport are reporting this evening that the agent of Bordeaux star #Malcom is flying to England to speak with both Liverpool and
Tottenham about potentially signing the Brazilian.

Zaha alternative or completely different type of player?

Fairly certain that Herc said if we miss out on Martial/zaha/etc, we'll end up getting Malcom. I could be wrong though.
 

Luka Van der Bale

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You know who beats the hell out of those teams? City. You know who out of the top teams struggles with the bad teams more than anyone? Liverpool, who are fast as hell and wingers who can dribble like crazy.
City, who have Sterling and Sane on the wings. Pep used Pedro, Henry and Villa wide at Barca, as well as Robben and Ribery at Bayern. If you’re using Pep’s teams as an argument against pace out wide to help break down a defence, you’re very mistaken.
 

daryl hannah

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Premium Sport are reporting this evening that the agent of Bordeaux star #Malcom is flying to England to speak with both Liverpool and
Tottenham about potentially signing the Brazilian.

Zaha alternative or completely different type of player?

They're pretty different. Think Malcom is more about playmaking and hitting them from range.
 

Hengy1

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Premium Sport are reporting this evening that the agent of Bordeaux star #Malcom is flying to England to speak with both Liverpool and
Tottenham about potentially signing the Brazilian.

Zaha alternative or completely different type of player?
Different type from what ( little ) I’ve seen. Looks a prospect though
 

Ghost Hardware

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Frustrating to see the Fekir price being mooted at £48.4m plus add ons, but I'm not sure if we could have competed anyway. Klopp seems really good at tapping players up. Even dragged VVD away from Pep.
I just get the feeling they go balls deep for the players they really want and we um and arr to get the best deal around. I understand on the whole but a player like him is bargain for that sort of fee (even if it goes up to 55) in today’s market. Annoying thing is, we could have not got Zaha and Grealish and just got Fekir and we would have saved money. And he is better then both.
 

SpursJord

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Yeah Fekir has done good at Lyon, But can you really tell me that he will make a bigger impact at Liverpool than Zaha with us for sure? As I don't see how anyone can just say he has done it in France must be a better player. His former teammate Lacazette didn't light the league up yet he scored for fun in Ligue 1.
 

SpartanSpur

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I just get the feeling they go balls deep for the players they really want and we um an arr to get the best deal around. I understand on the whole but a player like him is bargain for that sort of fee in today’s market. Annoying thing is, we could have not got Zaha and Grealish and just got Fekir and we would have saved money. And he is better then both.

It is pretty admirable. They do seem to act with great decisiveness. Fekir deal sounds pretty reasonable too. I really thought Aulas was going to drag that one out. Letting him play in the WC could have brought on an auction.

Now maybe we would have done the same with Martial (assuming he's Poch's first choice), but in classic Spurs fashion we picked one with additional complications.

This whole CM issue does seem to be keeping incredibly quiet. Maybe the main target is focused on the WC (such as Kovacic) or has other big suitors. Unless the plan is to move to 4-1-4-1 or 4-3-3 and drop the likes of Eriksen and Dele back to accommodate wide attackers City style, but I'm not convinced, 4-2-3-1 seems to be Poch's go to formation.
 

Ghost Hardware

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Yeah Fekir has done alright in France, But can you really tell me that he will make a bigger impact at Liverpool than Zaha with us for sure? As I don't see how anyone can just say he has done it in France must be a better player. His former teammate Lacazette didn't light the league up yet he scored for fun in Ligue 1.
By that logic you would prefer Zaha to Neymar? He has done more then alright in France, he scored 23 goals and 8 assists in 40 games from midfield this season. He can play upfront on ether wing and in CM, and is a very intelligent player and club captain. I understand not every player can go from league to league, but this guy is a class above and has been for a while. In my opinion, from watching him a fair anmount, he looks a better talent then Zaha and has a higher ceeling. But that is only my opinion.
 

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It’s amazing that martial is cheaper than Zaha. Amazing.
I know what you mean but it comes down to what they’re worth to the selling club. To Palace they could quite reasonably equate Zaha to Premier league survival next season. And whatever cash they generate for new purchases is inherently risky.
 

SpursJord

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Using Neymar as an example isn't really going to get us anywhere as we all know of his obvious qualities in multiple leagues and for his country. My point only references the fact that just because of what he has done in Lyon shouldn't automatically account for him being a better player than Zaha in England or at Liverpool. We all know each player will perform differently for a number of reasons.
 

jay2040

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Poch will improve his game and he can easily adapt to the Spurs way! He carried Palace like Bale carried us prior to his departure and can see him linking up well with the lads.
 

even steven

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Like many I was hoping that we’d get martial but if we ended up with this guy I’d be happy too. In zaha we’d be buying someone who really has been hitting their peak the last year or 2, not just getting potential.

For those saying he’s shit, I was well in that same camp 2 years ago when we were linked with him but if you’ve watched him this season especially then your opinion has to have changed.

Good summary of him this season and what he’d be brining to us. Not to mention his winning mentality - you don’t become a focal point of a team and change games single handedly without that.

 

even steven

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Another thing to mention about Zaha - how many times do we see it where a player moves to a big club, doesn’t make the grade and just fall away or never reach their potential again. The ones that do bounce back and prove they are top class are the ones with character and have that little special something about them.
 

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City, who have Sterling and Sane on the wings. Pep used Pedro, Henry and Villa wide at Barca, as well as Robben and Ribery at Bayern. If you’re using Pep’s teams as an argument against pace out wide to help break down a defence, you’re very mistaken.
Yes he uses those players to pull defenses wide but gets the best midfielders to truly bust through. Passing breaks teams down not running through them. Iniesta used to line up at LW for Barcelona. Pace is great and if you can have it thats great, we have historically gotten that from our fullbacks but we don't anymore. Thats why I thought we added Lucas Moura. We have those two quick players who can get past the first man now in Lucas and Son. We don't need a third for 65 mil IMO who can't play as a lone forward either.
 

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Would much rather Zaha than Fekir.

Zaha is an absolute proven danger in the prem and has played incredibly well for a god awful team for 2 seasons and been outstanding!

No one wants to play Palace when Zaha plays. With good coaching and surrounded by better players I think he could double his output in terms of goals and assists.
 

Everlasting Seconds

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Would much rather Zaha than Fekir.

Zaha is an absolute proven danger in the prem and has played incredibly well for a god awful team for 2 seasons and been outstanding!

No one wants to play Palace when Zaha plays..
No one? When Tottenham played Palace with Zaha in the lineup, he managed abysmal passing and a total of two shots.
Neither of which came close to the target.
I actually thought it was a good idea to sign Zaha 2 years ago. But we are a different club now. A better club. We should take that seriously.
 

robertgoulet

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No one? When Tottenham played Palace with Zaha in the lineup, he managed abysmal passing and a total of two shots.
Neither of which came close to the target.
I actually thought it was a good idea to sign Zaha 2 years ago. But we are a different club now. A better club. We should take that seriously.

Can’t judge a guy on one game.
 

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I feel like people don't realize how good Son or Lucas Moura would look when they got to be their whole crappy teams offense and got to dominate the ball. We don't need a third guy to do that job for 45 mil or whatever the figure is. I think he's a good player but I struggle with the fee for what his likely role will and not sure how much he can really grow as a player.

If we are playing a different formation and Eriksen is going to drop deeper or we're playing a 4-1-4-1 then this makes all the sense in the world and I think would be a great addition. As it stands I just haven't seen that Poch will use wingers like this guy all the time to make the investment worth it.
 
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BigPlimpton

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Zaha fits in so many ways. So versatile. Physical enough to back into a center half and take the ball to his feet like a number 9 and lay the ball off to a supporting player. But also plays two footed and can take a defender to the by line and lay in a cross or cut the ball back and shoot it toward the far corner. Because of that can be a nightmare to defend and will help us break down teams that park the bus. Against higher quality opposition, has the pace to get in behind on the counter like Son, and can finish like Son, which we don’t really have elsewhere in the squad.
Totally 100% behind this transfer if it happens, even at 60 or 70M. Adding all of his physical traits to his homegrown status, I understand completely why Poch wants the player.
 
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