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TheAmerican

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I watched a replay ofToulouse and Nice, and Sangare really stood out to me. I read into him a bit and he's gaining quite a reputation for himself, this season. He is a really strong dribbler and tackler.. He seems very intelligent, as he gets into good positions on the field. I think he reads the game very well for his age (20). He makes good transitional runs and passes. While he isn't flashy, he is simply and effective. I think he would be a good pickup.

An article on him: https://www.whoscored.com/Articles/...ahim-Sangare-Ligue-1’s-next-midfield-colossus


Having made his debut as an 18-year-old back in 2016, the Ivorian only really established himself as a first team regular midway through last season, going on to start 18 times in Ligue 1. He's continued that under Alain Casanova this season. His ball-winning ability was clear to see, averaging the most tackles per 90 minutes of players to start ten or more games (4.1) - a feat previously achieved by the likes of Mario Lemina, Idrissa Gueye and, of course, N’Golo Kante.

After four matches of the current season he’s already improved on that figure, currently averaging 4.5 per 90 minutes, with no player having made more tackles in total ahead of the international break (18).

Only Allan Saint-Maximin (15) and Ferland Mendy (14) have completed more dribbles in Ligue 1 than the youngster at this early stage (13), and while he proved last season that he was able to use his power to breeze past opponents, again his efficiency is on the rise. Last season the midfielder completed 29 of 36 attempts - an impressive 80.6 per cent success - and this time around he’s been dispossessed on just three of 16 attempts - 81.3 per cent.
 

spursfan77

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I watched a replay ofToulouse and Nice, and Sangare really stood out to me. I read into him a bit and he's gaining quite a reputation for himself, this season. He is a really strong dribbler and tackler.. He seems very intelligent, as he gets into good positions on the field. I think he reads the game very well for his age (20). He makes good transitional runs and passes. While he isn't flashy, he is simply and effective. I think he would be a good pickup.

An article on him: https://www.whoscored.com/Articles/cvTxb_wLD06liETBXZGVUg/Show/Scout-Report-Ibrahim-Sangare-Ligue-1’s-next-midfield-colossus


Having made his debut as an 18-year-old back in 2016, the Ivorian only really established himself as a first team regular midway through last season, going on to start 18 times in Ligue 1. He's continued that under Alain Casanova this season. His ball-winning ability was clear to see, averaging the most tackles per 90 minutes of players to start ten or more games (4.1) - a feat previously achieved by the likes of Mario Lemina, Idrissa Gueye and, of course, N’Golo Kante.

After four matches of the current season he’s already improved on that figure, currently averaging 4.5 per 90 minutes, with no player having made more tackles in total ahead of the international break (18).

Only Allan Saint-Maximin (15) and Ferland Mendy (14) have completed more dribbles in Ligue 1 than the youngster at this early stage (13), and while he proved last season that he was able to use his power to breeze past opponents, again his efficiency is on the rise. Last season the midfielder completed 29 of 36 attempts - an impressive 80.6 per cent success - and this time around he’s been dispossessed on just three of 16 attempts - 81.3 per cent.

Sounds like the kind of guy we should try our luck on and would be within our budget. We probably won’t though and he will end up at a mid ranking European or premier league club and then we will be linked with him at three times the price.
 

Lighty64

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Got it, I envisioned him as more of a Wanyama replacement and getting a more offensive minded player for Dembeles replacement, but I've only seen the clips on youtube and what I've read.

I do think he has much more offensive skill than Wanyama of course.

not being funny but I really thought you rated this guy through watching him play. FFS N'Jie, N'Koudou and even your mate Janssen looked good on youtube clips.

the trouble is we all know we need our CM covered big time, and all hope the blip of the summer see's a miracle in January and we do some business, a CM, a DM and a left back at least (don't see the miracle happening). there's rumours we have agreed a deal for Barrios and already people are posting they don't think he isn't good enough. if we do sign anyone, 1 thing is guaranteed unless they are on everyones wishlist it will just be another stick to bash Levy with
 

Lighty64

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Barrios is better than the current version of wanyama that’s for sure.

the thing is if we sign him in January, and he doesn't hit the ground running he will be classed as a waste, even though it will be a different country, different climate, and a totally different league
 

daryl hannah

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not being funny but I really thought you rated this guy through watching him play. FFS N'Jie, N'Koudou and even your mate Janssen looked good on youtube clips.

the trouble is we all know we need our CM covered big time, and all hope the blip of the summer see's a miracle in January and we do some business, a CM, a DM and a left back at least (don't see the miracle happening). there's rumours we have agreed a deal for Barrios and already people are posting they don't think he isn't good enough. if we do sign anyone, 1 thing is guaranteed unless they are on everyones wishlist it will just be another stick to bash Levy with

In the same breath as calling people out for saying a player isn't good enough, you've just named 3 recent signings who weren't good enough in the slightest. So you'll have to forgive people who have misgivings about our recruitment strategy.

Regarding another stick to bash Levy with, I think we're beyond looking for a any more sticks. It's about the reality, and the ambition. If Levy shows some ambition on transfers, perhaps the distaste for all things Levy will subside a bit.

My own view is that even if we made a couple of stellar/clever signings and still didn't win anything, at least we will have aimed high (Bill Nic. etc.). We would have tried.

Further to that, some seem to assume that big signings = big risk. Chelsea don't have that problem - often making a profit on their big signings.
 

Lighty64

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In the same breath as calling people out for saying a player isn't good enough, you've just named 3 recent signings who weren't good enough in the slightest. So you'll have to forgive people who have misgivings about our recruitment strategy.

Regarding another stick to bash Levy with, I think we're beyond looking for a any more sticks. It's about the reality, and the ambition. If Levy shows some ambition on transfers, perhaps the distaste for all things Levy will subside a bit.

My own view is that even if we made a couple of stellar/clever signings and still didn't win anything, at least we will have aimed high (Bill Nic. etc.). We would have tried.

Further to that, some seem to assume that big signings = big risk. Chelsea don't have that problem - often making a profit on their big signings.

but not every club makes good signings every single window otherwise Chelsea would of won the league every bloody year from Abramovic taking over. Man C took 2½ years and over ½ a billion quid before they won the FA Cup.

where I think we need to definitely change our strategy is having someone else other than Levy doing the deals, but Poch was the 1 that decided to not want anyone else involved, and this season of all seasons we failed

every single club have problems, and sometimes those teams have to take a hit. Chelsea early days took them hits, Man City take a hit on nearly everyone they do sell. Unfortunately with our situation (especially the last 10 seasons) we can't afford big hits with a lot of the money going towards the stadium because the profits until we started qualifying for the CL where pretty poor, and since we started qualifying the stadium cost have doubled.
 

daryl hannah

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but not every club makes good signings every single window otherwise Chelsea would of won the league every bloody year from Abramovic taking over. Man C took 2½ years and over ½ a billion quid before they won the FA Cup.

where I think we need to definitely change our strategy is having someone else other than Levy doing the deals, but Poch was the 1 that decided to not want anyone else involved, and this season of all seasons we failed

every single club have problems, and sometimes those teams have to take a hit. Chelsea early days took them hits, Man City take a hit on nearly everyone they do sell. Unfortunately with our situation (especially the last 10 seasons) we can't afford big hits with a lot of the money going towards the stadium because the profits until we started qualifying for the CL where pretty poor, and since we started qualifying the stadium cost have doubled.
So Chelsea winning the league 5 times or whatever it is isn't a good enough return in your book?

Man City have won the league 3 times and a few cups.

What's your point?

You're basically saying you'd like to see us invest too, but can't because of the stadium?

Edit: what do you mean by 'big hit'? Have you heard of amortisation?
 
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Lighty64

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So Chelsea winning the league 5 times or whatever it is isn't a good enough return in your book?

Man City have won the league 3 times and a few cups.

What's your point?

You're basically saying you'd like to see us invest too, but can't because of the stadium?

Edit: what do you mean by 'big hit'? Have you heard of amortisation?

how the F did you expect us to compete with Abramovic money when he came in.

or even the Sheik when he took over when we had just started the stadium.

we had a small stadium, F'all profits until we started getting in the CL
 

Lighty64

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So Chelsea winning the league 5 times or whatever it is isn't a good enough return in your book?

Man City have won the league 3 times and a few cups.

What's your point?

You're basically saying you'd like to see us invest too, but can't because of the stadium?

Edit: what do you mean by 'big hit'? Have you heard of amortisation?

of course I'd like to see us invest, but not get into debt doing it. when Abramovic took over Chelsea apart from being in debt was playing in Europe, winning cups and had the backbone of a side that just got strengthened and strengthen. even City had a few in their team which went on to win those trophies. when ENIC took over we had the majority of the team that needed upgrading to be able to compete, and ok only got to the Worthington cup early in their tenure but we needed a lot of players to start climbing.

apologies English might be my language but as a subject at school I never did to well (hated it in fact, but was mainly personal reasons). amortisation?
 

Snarfalicious

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To the surprise of almost no one, Dembele looks absolutely cooked. I was expecting him to at least hold up the ball a bit today but he can’t even do that at this stage. He’s completing about 1/3 of the dribbles/game he did last season (which was also down on his average in years prior) and he just looks done. Love what he’s done for this team, but it’s time to let him move on to China to set himself up for one last nice contract.
 

coys200

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Have to say:

Eriksen
Son
Dele
Lamela
Moura

Is now a very nice AM group gives you a bit of everything. Bringing another in would really give you quite a headache who even makes match day squad.
 

Lighty64

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how the F did you expect us to compete with Abramovic money when he came in.

or even the Sheik when he took over when we had just started the stadium.

we had a small stadium, F'all profits until we started getting in the CL

Okay @[email protected] we had F'all profits to be able to compete with the big boys before we got CL, unless Joe chucked his life savings at it (which a lot of it is tied up in all his other businesses and not in his back pocket)
 

Lighty64

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Explained here:



well I'm sure all clubs do this, but with our stadium before the time the 2010 FFP come in definitely wasn't earning us enough to be able to compete with both City and Chelsea, and after 2010 no chance could we compete with them. City sponsored their own stadium to get around FFP, and still suffered a penalty in not being able to name a full squad 1 season in the CL because of there spending.

I'm sure amortisation was used when we got rid of the main group we brought in during the Bale window
 
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