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Spurrific

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I want Depay - reckon he could still do well in the prem - like Zaha and Martial, he can play wide or up front.

Lyon would probably want an obscene amount though, and I have only watched him a couple times since he's been there.

Back to the drawing board, brb.
 

Hakkz

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I want Depay - reckon he could still do well in the prem - like Zaha and Martial, he can play wide or up front.

Lyon would probably want an obscene amount though, and I have only watched him a couple times since he's been there.

Back to the drawing board, brb.

The papers are even linking him back to Utd. Lol.
 

danielneeds

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Ive been thinking about Ramsey for a while but I’m not sure. I think he’d be good under Poch but is he disciplined enough for central midfield, Im not sure?



Also I don’t think he’s home grown for Europe. They seem to be open to selling him in January. A little bit of revenge for Judas!



https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/aaron-ramsey-could-leave-arsenal-13321740
Besides the fact that I doubt he'd cross the divide, he just isn't right for Poch's shape. He's not defensively disciplined enough for the midfield holders, or creative enough to play in the 10. He's one of those midfielders like Pogba where you have to play 433 to get the best out of them.
 

coys200

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The CM buy is gonna be so crucial. Dembele really does make such a huge difference to how we play. If dembele had few goals and assists a season he’d be right up there with the very best. I think if we get it wrong if could see us really regress as a team. Over the years CM really has been our weak spot. Our emergence over the last 5 years has owed a lot to dembele dier wanyama all peaking at one time or another.
 

spursfan77

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Besides the fact that I doubt he'd cross the divide, he just isn't right for Poch's shape. He's not defensively disciplined enough for the midfield holders, or creative enough to play in the 10. He's one of those midfielders like Pogba where you have to play 433 to get the best out of them.

Yeah that’s my thought on him. He’s a typical Wenger player.
 

dtxspurs

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His job lies elsewhere. You need to see the pattern of play better- it's no coincidence he diverts the ball to a more creative player as we approach the last third. Every time. Instructions.

If he does want to leave of course I agree he needs replacing with quality. Not least because the other three midfield contenders have been injured/aren't CL level.

I'm not arguing for wholesale changes- retaining the core and the spirit has obviously been good for us- there's a role for all three RBs to play this season. But the left side is of real concern- Rose isn't what he was, and Davies doesn't deserve a shirt.
I highly doubt Poch is telling Dembele to not play the ball over the top of the defense, or through balls between the lines.

A box to box CM should participate much more in the offensive part of the game than Dembele does.
 

cliff jones

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I highly doubt Poch is telling Dembele to not play the ball over the top of the defense, or through balls between the lines.

A box to box CM should participate much more in the offensive part of the game than Dembele does.

that's the point- he's not. We don't play with one. His job is to retain and recycle the ball, and given the opportunity slide it between the lines to the attackers behind the striker. And act as a major shield/deterrent defensively, of course. I'm glad you've chosen our great club to follow, but you're all over the place with this.
 

dtxspurs

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that's the point- he's not. We don't play with one. His job is to retain and recycle the ball, and given the opportunity slide it between the lines to the attackers behind the striker. And act as a major shield/deterrent defensively, of course. I'm glad you've chosen our great club to follow, but you're all over the place with this.
Maybe I'm not following, so are you saying Dier is the box to box player or that we play with two defensive midfielders? I'd say Dembele is more of a defensive player than he is offensive and that is a big problem in our current lineup.

Pretty much every top team in the world plays 3 midfielders in some form and two of them are more offensive based players than Dembele. Thats an issue in our current setup and why we struggle to break teams down consistently.

I'd guess that most people would consider Dembele a box to box player.
 

cliff jones

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Maybe I'm not following, so are you saying Dier is the box to box player or that we play with two defensive midfielders? I'd say Dembele is more of a defensive player than he is offensive and that is a big problem in our current lineup.

Pretty much every top team in the world plays 3 midfielders in some form and two of them are more offensive based players than Dembele. Thats an issue in our current setup and why we struggle to break teams down consistently.

I'd guess that most people would consider Dembele a box to box player.

we typically play with two sitters. I agree with you that this formation is too defensive, especially if you also have Davies playing.

But if we play 4141, only Lamela and Moura (along with a fit Kane) represent a first line of defence. Eriksen, Son, Alli can't tackle for shit.

Midfield certainly needs addressing next summer, but we need a big picture solution beyond scapegoating Dembele.
 

spurs9

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It would be semi unrealistic but I would like to see us bring in Lobotka and Fekir and get rid of Sissoko and Llorente as well as Janssen and GKN.

Lobotka could be exactly what we need for DM/CM, even though he is small, he is pretty strong and his defensive intelligence seems very good, plus he's excellent at playing when pressed as he can take players on in tight situations but his first though is always to quickly move the ball forward, which he is good at. He wont get many assists or even key passes but will quickly get the ball to those who can.

Fekir will challenge for a 1st team wide AM/Wing spot and will also be a good back up to Kane at CF and Eriksen as a playmaker.
 

rabbikeane

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We'll probably hold on until the summer with Luke Shaw, Declan Rice and Aaron Ramsey out of contract
 

SugarRay

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We'll probably hold on until the summer with Luke Shaw, Declan Rice and Aaron Ramsey out of contract

Right now all would get in our side probably!

That’s not a positive note about any of them ( I think Shaw is a good player. Rice? Any West Ham youngster who passes the ball to a teammate is fawned over as the next Rio/Carrick/Defoe, he’ll probably be in the championship within 3 years, Ramsey was a very good player once )
 

SugarRay

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Modric is bang out of order really. He should be eyeing up a glorious return for a 2 year or so stint by now, not seemingly getting even better with age.
 

Hoddle&Waddle

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we typically play with two sitters. I agree with you that this formation is too defensive, especially if you also have Davies playing.

But if we play 4141, only Lamela and Moura (along with a fit Kane) represent a first line of defence. Eriksen, Son, Alli can't tackle for shit.

Midfield certainly needs addressing next summer, but we need a big picture solution beyond scapegoating Dembele.
It needs addressing in January not the Summer.

The dilemma is we need Dembele in there because the other lot are not good enough without him. But he can't play 90 minutes and has injury problems.

Top draw CM in January is a must or we could be in serious danger of missing out on top 4.
 

fletch82

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Ultimately, in my opinion, I would say we need two B2B CMs, one established and one young (depending on Winks), one young AM, a new starting LB, a young CF who is comfortable playing out wide and most likely a new starting DM (unless Dier drastically improves and Vic never gets injured again). The most imperative of that list is a new CM. Everyone else we can take our time on.


So just like a entire new squad then ?

Come on mate your slacking you haven't put a keeper in there or a cb tut tut :whistle:
 

Monkey boy

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Absolutely gutted we missed out on Sancho - for political reasons - according to ITK.

English teenager Jadon Sancho set up his fourth and fifth goals of the season as Borussia Dortmund came from 2-0 down to beat Bayer Leverkusen and move top of the Bundesliga.

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/45672847

Yet we somehow allowed City to take the best right back in the premier league away without putting up any fight whatsoever.
 

Ghost Hardware

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So just like a entire new squad then ?

Come on mate your slacking you haven't put a keeper in there or a cb tut tut :whistle:
Well Dembele, Sissoko, Janssen, GKN and Llorente will all go. Davies is not good enough and the jury is still out on Dier (as a DM) and Vic (with his injuries). Winks has been improving. But if you take all that into consideration then we are left incredibly thin in the centre of midfield. I was saying we only really need to get one or maybe two new first team players and some youth for rotate and for the future. Remember Eriksen only has two years left on his contract and could well go in the summer if he doesn't sign. I don't think what I'm suggesting is so far fetched and I don't see how that equates to a new squad.
 
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