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wadewill

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Am I the only one that can’t stand Wolves.

They haven’t done it “right”, they spent tonnes of money to get out of the championship and again this season. With the help of agents pushing their players there.

Plus I can’t stand their manager, he was a totally classless shit in the Championship last year.

So glad we won that yesterday.

Both pens by the way, just total inexperience

Tripper needs to be taken out the firing line for his own sake, he is a liability at the moment
 

John48

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Aug 31, 2015
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Not sure having ago at Winks is fair. He's not a DM & needs the likes of Wanyama or Dier alongside him, but we're down to Sissoko who again is not a DM, so we're coming up really short in that area of the field.
 

spursfan77

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Nobody is saying we aren’t a good team. Anyone paying attention knows we are.

We’ve picked up points during a crazy period of players not having a preseason, players playing with injuries, players being out injured and players playing out of form.

People are bemoaning the individual mistakes quite rightly. They’ve cost us goals and points. Of course this happens naturally over a course of a season but there been a high concentration of them over the last month. It’s not been good enough for where we aspire to be.

To call people out for that when they’ve made valid points regarding the players’ individual mistakes is wrong.
 

Giovanni

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Aug 31, 2012
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Its as clear as day that we are severly limited and hampered by our fullbacks.
They cant defend, attacks break down, no dynamism.
We need aurier and rose in good form.
 

JCRD

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Am I the only one that can’t stand Wolves.

They haven’t done it “right”, they spent tonnes of money to get out of the championship and again this season. With the help of agents pushing their players there.

Plus I can’t stand their manager, he was a totally classless shit in the Championship last year.

So glad we won that yesterday.

Both pens by the way, just total inexperience

Tripper needs to be taken out the firing line for his own sake, he is a liability at the moment

You are not the only one. Ive hated those ****s for years. I like their manager now though
 

TheChosenOne

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Dec 13, 2005
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I know her personally and she's as annoying in person as she is on TV. Plus I'm not sure any of us guys are her "type"

LOL.

The street chat gets on my nerves. get-tin, liv-vin, run-nin. I blame the BBC.

Almost as annoying as the Zebedee bounce that Salah does after a passage of play he has been involved in.
"Boing" like an 8 yr old kid fpot baller.
 

worcestersauce

"I'm no optimist I'm just a prisoner of hope
Jan 23, 2006
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Am I the only one that can’t stand Wolves.

They haven’t done it “right”, they spent tonnes of money to get out of the championship and again this season. With the help of agents pushing their players there.

Plus I can’t stand their manager, he was a totally classless shit in the Championship last year.

So glad we won that yesterday.

Both pens by the way, just total inexperience

Tripper needs to be taken out the firing line for his own sake, he is a liability at the moment
I don't feel as strongly about it as you clearly do and I have always had a soft spot for Wolves, but the current club does seem to me like a kind of manufactured company, a business using football as a vehicle to make money as opposed to a football club being run in a business like way to make money.
There really is no way some of the players at Wolves would have come to the club in the normal course of events, there is clearly another reason their agents are bringing them into the club.
A club owner usually runs a football club and deals with agents to buy and sell players to improve that club's team, In this case it seems like the owner is just an investment company that has handed over player deals to agents effectively creating a business model in de-facto partnership with agents to share the money earned from being in the Premier league and that, I think, is what many football fans find difficult to come to terms with.
I didn't realise it but that is another reason I am happy we stuffed them yesterday.:)
 

rossdapep

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Nobody is saying we aren’t a good team. Anyone paying attention knows we are.

We’ve picked up points during a crazy period of players not having a preseason, players playing with injuries, players being out injured and players playing out of form.

People are bemoaning the individual mistakes quite rightly. They’ve cost us goals and points. Of course this happens naturally over a course of a season but there been a high concentration of them over the last month. It’s not been good enough for where we aspire to be.

To call people out for that when they’ve made valid points regarding the players’ individual mistakes is wrong.
I'm very anti-kneejerk and I hate needless criticism of players but if we want to aspire to be better or stay in the top 4 we need certain players replacing because they're on their 5th 6th chance now and are clearly not going to get to the level required.

Secondly, I say this because these players can easily be replaced - Aurier & KWP for Trippier; Davies for new LB (plenty attainable and not so expensive Tierney, Grimaldo, Telles, etc).

We may have concerns about KWP but all I can say to that is - KWP may not be perfect just yet but he's got time on his side to learn and improve and when the 'experienced' RB is making basic positional errors and committing suicide regularly, are we really that worse off with KWP as a regular starter? I don't think so.
 

rossdapep

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Its as clear as day that we are severly limited and hampered by our fullbacks.
They cant defend, attacks break down, no dynamism.
We need aurier and rose in good form.
He's 29 next year, I fear that we won't get the Rose of 15-17 back. These next 7-8 months are going to be really crucial because if he can't get back in and get fit, we will (ok optimistic) bring a new LB and that will put him on the shelf I think.
 

rossdapep

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I think that shipped sailed this summer. His stock had to have fallen off the cliff. He’s been terrible all season.
They'll still be buyers who would love to have him. Anyone 6th and below would take him I think but I don't think Poch will ditch him just yet, especially not mid-season with our shortage at LB.
 

Sweetsman

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Jan 30, 2011
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Am I the only one that can’t stand Wolves.

They haven’t done it “right”, they spent tonnes of money to get out of the championship and again this season. With the help of agents pushing their players there.

Plus I can’t stand their manager, he was a totally classless shit in the Championship last year.

So glad we won that yesterday.

Both pens by the way, just total inexperience

Tripper needs to be taken out the firing line for his own sake, he is a liability at the moment
Why do you say he was classless?
 

Cruyff

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We have too many players who (due to form/ ability) would perhaps struggle to get in the top three teams' squads let alone starting elevens: Trippier, Davies, Sissoko, Wanyama?, Dier? Rose?
How about a cheeky bid for Gibbs-White?
 

heelspurs

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Jul 25, 2012
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Nobody is saying we aren’t a good team. Anyone paying attention knows we are.

We’ve picked up points during a crazy period of players not having a preseason, players playing with injuries, players being out injured and players playing out of form.

People are bemoaning the individual mistakes quite rightly. They’ve cost us goals and points. Of course this happens naturally over a course of a season but there been a high concentration of them over the last month. It’s not been good enough for where we aspire to be.

To call people out for that when they’ve made valid points regarding the players’ individual mistakes is wrong.
Don't know who this 'Pochettino' guy is being quoted here but he seems to agree with you. He evens names names, Tripps specifically.

It's weird though since we have already been told how we should contextualize and feel about this by @davidmatzdorf and this 'fuckwit' Pochettino guy isn't following the rules apparently. We are only allowed to rejoice in the positive and the negatives will somehow work themselves out if everyone ignores them.

http://www.espn.co.uk/soccer/totten...eran-trippier-must-remember-he-is-a-full-back

I wonder if this 'Pochettino' fella (if that is his real name) recognizes the crosses that Tripps puts in FFS. You just can't ignore these things.
 

Kiedis

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Felt we should have adjusted the formation way earlier. Wolves kept overloading our fullbacks with their wide forwards and wingbacks and had Neves and Moutinho pinging balls wide all game. As soon as we went 5 at the back and were able to get closer to their wide players, things got comfortable very quickly, even with the mood being very much geared towards an inevitable equaliser.

Other than that, Wolves felt a bit like when you started career mode in PES back in the day with those absolutely rubbish "classic" players making up your squad. Pretty soon, you'd have bought about five very good players, but still mainly had those absolutely journeymen you started with making up parts of your team.
 

worcestersauce

"I'm no optimist I'm just a prisoner of hope
Jan 23, 2006
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Felt we should have adjusted the formation way earlier. Wolves kept overloading our fullbacks with their wide forwards and wingbacks and had Neves and Moutinho pinging balls wide all game. As soon as we went 5 at the back and were able to get closer to their wide players, things got comfortable very quickly, even with the mood being very much geared towards an inevitable equaliser.

Other than that, Wolves felt a bit like when you started career mode in PES back in the day with those absolutely rubbish "classic" players making up your squad. Pretty soon, you'd have bought about five very good players, but still mainly had those absolutely journeymen you started with making up parts of your team.
Not sure I understand all of your post but your point about the difference following the Sanchez substitution is spot on, it did get comfortable very quickly and that is something that hasn't been widely recognized. The narrative is that Wolves almost overwhelmed us but we clung on when the truth is that we changed the game and they really didn't have much to offer by the end.
 
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