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McFlash

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Did anyone watch the cup final today?
I listened to it on the radio but only with limited interest because it was City vs West Ham. City ladies are probably bankrolled like the mens team and West Ham...are, well West Ham!
 

Sandros Shiny Head

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Not going to lie that cup final was one of the worst games of football I've ever seen on tv. The international games seem a lot better quality no idea why
 

TheHoddleWaddle

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Womens internationals are great to watch. Some great technical skill. Goalkeeping aside....

But, I turned it off as soon as that fat w***** Dyer came on pre-match and started cockneying about claret and blue. I nearly puked.

Womens / ladies footie has a good future.
 

hellava_tough

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There's a world cup this summer, and I plan to watch it. Football is football.

I might watch a few games if there is a World Cup on and I have the free time, which is the crucial part I guess.

Btw, has Sky got the rights to the Women's Premier League or whatever it's called?

BBC seem to go on about women's football, but it never seems to actually be on.
 

Gassin's finest

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I might watch a few games if there is a World Cup on and I have the free time, which is the crucial part I guess.

Btw, has Sky got the rights to the Women's Premier League or whatever it's called?

BBC seem to go on about women's football, but it never seems to actually be on.
BBC's sports coverage is virtually non existent anyway.
 

Typical Spurs

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Personally it's not for me. And I know there's a big push to make it mainstream, so I decided that I'd give the final a go for half an hour.
What a terrible level of football. I said to my Mrs and boys that 1 of the goalkeepers will make a massive error....5 mins later a shot literally straight at the West Ham keeper and she fumbles it in.
I think I expect the standard to be far better than it is. That's the issue I have with it.
 

dontcallme

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I hope women's football never gets as popular as the men's. With lots of money comes bad behaviour.

Pro men's players choose who they play for based on economic reasons rather than football. They play way too many games but they can't say anything as they get accused of not appreciating the lifestyle they have.

Young kids get paid ridiculous amounts of money before they have achieved anything. They get the lifestyle but not the pure joy of the sport.

I hope the women's game adjusts to a slightly smaller pitch and goals. Have games easily accessible without the ridiculous amounts of money.
 

Danners9

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the DM has an interview with Chelsea's coach Emma Hayes today, here are some bits from it:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/f...en-manager-Emma-Hayes-calls-nets-smaller.html

'The goal is just a little bit too big': Chelsea Women manager Emma Hayes calls for nets to be made smaller as she says women's game does not have to mirror everything from men's football

As part of State of Play, a BT Sport film, Hayes said: 'If I took a male player and a female player and I asked them to run 10 yards, more often than not, though that’s changing, the male player would get there quicker than a female player.

'If the same male player and female player were to be in standing positions and both jump, the range for a male is going to be greater than that of a woman. So you think where’s its relevance?

'Well, first it would be in goal keeping for example. There is often a criticism about goal keeping in the women’s game, I would argue that the goal is just a little bit too big, if it was built around our physical differences then we would be talking about great goal keepers as opposed to exposing them.

'Rather than mirror everything we take from the men’s game, we have to adapt it to our own sport and our own physical expectations as well as the tactical implications.

'It’s the mind-set that has to change, and once it starts to change, there is a realisation that the sport has its own differences because, more often than not, everyone coming into our game is coming from the men’s game or other sports.'

State of Play, the next film in the award-winning BT Sport Films series, will premiere at 10.30pm on Wednesday May 29th on BT Sport 2
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Quite sensible, really. I don't watch Women's Football often but have caught a few minutes of league matches and international games here and there, and possibly the point she raises is one of the reasons why I don't watch it. My impression has been that the game as a whole looks poor - lots of interceptions, poor shooting, bad goalies and players run out of steam after running with the ball for a bit, and low attendance/lack of atmosphere. Certainly has been the case in the Aussie W-League game I saw last, which used a 55,000 Rugby Stadium a few hours before the men's teams played and the same pitch the men's teams use. No surprise attendance was low and the general feel of the game didn't appeal.

So, they could use smaller stadia so there is an atmosphere, a pitch a few metres smaller on each side so the play flows better, slightly smaller goals and the chance create an identity for the sport which is not a 'lesser' version of the men's.
 

spursfan77

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That comment will be ridiculed but she’s probably right.

Let’s not forget 6/7/8 year old kids were being made to play on full size pitches only 10/15 years ago.
 

Danners9

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That comment will be ridiculed but she’s probably right.

Let’s not forget 6/7/8 year old kids were being made to play on full size pitches only 10/15 years ago.
I saw it here first of all and the replies were (surprisingly) positive:
 

Spurger King

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the DM has an interview with Chelsea's coach Emma Hayes today, here are some bits from it:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/f...en-manager-Emma-Hayes-calls-nets-smaller.html

'The goal is just a little bit too big': Chelsea Women manager Emma Hayes calls for nets to be made smaller as she says women's game does not have to mirror everything from men's football

As part of State of Play, a BT Sport film, Hayes said: 'If I took a male player and a female player and I asked them to run 10 yards, more often than not, though that’s changing, the male player would get there quicker than a female player.

'If the same male player and female player were to be in standing positions and both jump, the range for a male is going to be greater than that of a woman. So you think where’s its relevance?

'Well, first it would be in goal keeping for example. There is often a criticism about goal keeping in the women’s game, I would argue that the goal is just a little bit too big, if it was built around our physical differences then we would be talking about great goal keepers as opposed to exposing them.

'Rather than mirror everything we take from the men’s game, we have to adapt it to our own sport and our own physical expectations as well as the tactical implications.

'It’s the mind-set that has to change, and once it starts to change, there is a realisation that the sport has its own differences because, more often than not, everyone coming into our game is coming from the men’s game or other sports.'

State of Play, the next film in the award-winning BT Sport Films series, will premiere at 10.30pm on Wednesday May 29th on BT Sport 2
--

Quite sensible, really. I don't watch Women's Football often but have caught a few minutes of league matches and international games here and there, and possibly the point she raises is one of the reasons why I don't watch it. My impression has been that the game as a whole looks poor - lots of interceptions, poor shooting, bad goalies and players run out of steam after running with the ball for a bit, and low attendance/lack of atmosphere. Certainly has been the case in the Aussie W-League game I saw last, which used a 55,000 Rugby Stadium a few hours before the men's teams played and the same pitch the men's teams use. No surprise attendance was low and the general feel of the game didn't appeal.

So, they could use smaller stadia so there is an atmosphere, a pitch a few metres smaller on each side so the play flows better, slightly smaller goals and the chance create an identity for the sport which is not a 'lesser' version of the men's.
It's a perfectly reasonable point.
 

LSUY

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the DM has an interview with Chelsea's coach Emma Hayes today, here are some bits from it:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/f...en-manager-Emma-Hayes-calls-nets-smaller.html

'The goal is just a little bit too big': Chelsea Women manager Emma Hayes calls for nets to be made smaller as she says women's game does not have to mirror everything from men's football

As part of State of Play, a BT Sport film, Hayes said: 'If I took a male player and a female player and I asked them to run 10 yards, more often than not, though that’s changing, the male player would get there quicker than a female player.

'If the same male player and female player were to be in standing positions and both jump, the range for a male is going to be greater than that of a woman. So you think where’s its relevance?

'Well, first it would be in goal keeping for example. There is often a criticism about goal keeping in the women’s game, I would argue that the goal is just a little bit too big, if it was built around our physical differences then we would be talking about great goal keepers as opposed to exposing them.

'Rather than mirror everything we take from the men’s game, we have to adapt it to our own sport and our own physical expectations as well as the tactical implications.

'It’s the mind-set that has to change, and once it starts to change, there is a realisation that the sport has its own differences because, more often than not, everyone coming into our game is coming from the men’s game or other sports.'

State of Play, the next film in the award-winning BT Sport Films series, will premiere at 10.30pm on Wednesday May 29th on BT Sport 2
--

Quite sensible, really. I don't watch Women's Football often but have caught a few minutes of league matches and international games here and there, and possibly the point she raises is one of the reasons why I don't watch it. My impression has been that the game as a whole looks poor - lots of interceptions, poor shooting, bad goalies and players run out of steam after running with the ball for a bit, and low attendance/lack of atmosphere. Certainly has been the case in the Aussie W-League game I saw last, which used a 55,000 Rugby Stadium a few hours before the men's teams played and the same pitch the men's teams use. No surprise attendance was low and the general feel of the game didn't appeal.

So, they could use smaller stadia so there is an atmosphere, a pitch a few metres smaller on each side so the play flows better, slightly smaller goals and the chance create an identity for the sport which is not a 'lesser' version of the men's.

I'd agree with that. I don't watch women's football but I caught the final day of the season highlights show while at the barbers and they had goals of the season montage. A lot were top quality but some were at a height that if Lloris had let it in I'd be calling for him to be dropped.
 

Gassin's finest

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VAR already pulling the same tricks. Ridiculous penalty to England v Scotland in the world cup there.
 

Saoirse

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A version of the sport played by people who are, on average, a bit smaller than the men it was designed around playing it with slightly smaller pitches and goals is about the most sensible, common-sense suggestion you're likely to see. So it'll never happen. Back to Blatter's idea of shorter shorts it is.
 

Matthew Wyatt

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I enjoy watching women's football. Women's tennis is as entertaining as men's tennis and the fact that the top male players would always beat the top female players seems irrelevant when you're watching a good game. Women's football is a little different to the men's game but, goalkeeping aside, there's bags of talent, and if anything the lesser physicality makes the tactical aspects even more intriguing. But then I also enjoy watching overweight, middle-aged men or kids' teams playing Sunday league in the local park (which isn't meant to denigrate the women's game at all). I agree that the game might benefit from being scaled down a little. If women are on average 90% the size of men then reduce the pitch and goal dimensions, and the duration, by 10%. The current Women's World Cup has consistently provided better fare than Europe's elite men managed in Madrid last week.
 

Krule

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I enjoy watching women's football. Women's tennis is as entertaining as men's tennis and the fact that the top male players would always beat the top female players seems irrelevant when you're watching a good game. Women's football is a little different to the men's game but, goalkeeping aside, there's bags of talent, and if anything the lesser physicality makes the tactical aspects even more intriguing. But then I also enjoy watching overweight, middle-aged men or kids' teams playing Sunday league in the local park (which isn't meant to denigrate the women's game at all). I agree that the game might benefit from being scaled down a little. If women are on average 90% the size of men then reduce the pitch and goal dimensions, and the duration, by 10%. The current Women's World Cup has consistently provided better fare than Europe's elite mekn managed in Madrid last week.
Strange with women's tennis...I can watch it with the sound off so I can't hear all that grunting and moaning and appreciate the real talent and skills of the players and I can also enjoy it with the sound on really high and the screen turned off.....best of both worlds for me.
 
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