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nidge

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Jul 27, 2004
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What's the point of this division these days?

Just watch Wladimir destroy Jean-Marc Mormeck a 39 year old over the hill cruiserweight that couldn't beat Haye when he was at his best.

They should just retire the entire division. In fact it's getting to the point that where I can't actually watch boxing, maybe they should just stop boxing altogether. :shrug:
 

haxman

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The show has to go on, there's a pile of money to be made by everyone involved. It's just a poor era. I hope to see David Price get a shot in a year or two against whoever, very honest in his interview and seems to have a sensible head on his shoulders.

Cruiserweights should not being getting world heavyweight title shots.
 

Rocksuperstar

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It's certainly not the days of the heavy hitters - i gave up on both the Heavy and Superheavy when i sat through Audrey Harrison and Danny Williams shuffling their way to perhaps the dullest title fight ever, and that was almost 7 years ago now. We've not had an exciting heavyweight bout for a veeery long time, but it's cyclicle so i expect we'll see some tough lunatic start battering his way to the top soon, but i agree that there is a real slump in quality right now.
 

InOffMeLeftShin

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Jan 14, 2004
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There are no stylish athletic big men at the top of the heavyweight division and it has hugely affected the quality of entertainment. The Klitchko's are efficient and better than anyone else but it isn't interesting and it would be great if there was truely someone to go in and rattle them.

There has to be a few big men coming through and I am interested to see how David Price does and Anthony Joshua too depending on what happens with his drug case.
 

hans

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its looking likely that Haye will get a fight with vitali, though it seems like Vitalis manager is trying to stop the fight from happening
 

$hoguN

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Heavy weight boxing is dead. The simple fact is that the NFL is now a far bigger draw for the pool of individuals who would once have made up the stable of possible American fighters for the heavyweight division. Also there is a clear split of those individuals who naturally fall into the 17+ stone range (i.e. the Klitchkos) and those who are naturally smaller men such as Haye has made the division too wide.
 

riversmonkey

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These things come in cycles, weight divisions go through glory days and barren periods. The trouble for the Klits is either their challengers are undersized (Adamek and Haye), underskilled, or have no right being in the same ring.

There are fighters coming through, but most are at least two or three years of development away from world title fights.
 

SugarRay

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These things come in cycles, weight divisions go through glory days and barren periods. The trouble for the Klits is either their challengers are undersized (Adamek and Haye), underskilled, or have no right being in the same ring.

There are fighters coming through, but most are at least two or three years of development away from world title fights.

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Spot on.

The yanks attempt to cover up their lack of world class heavies with the NFL, NBA taking all their fighters excuse but that doesn't wash at all IMO.

Sure there might be a few in these sports that would make half decent pros but there are certainly no potential all time great heavyweights currently throwing the pig skin for a living. Look at how the greats started out in the sport. They trained from a very early age, we're born to fight and loved the game. All time greats don't look at their body shape, athletic ability and size and then decide to take up boxing. Michael Grant is an example of someone who did this and he massively over achieved considering this fact.

It's not as if being great at American football is an indication of being any good at boxing. Being great at rugby union doesn't necessarily mean you will be great at rugby league and they have real clear similarities. Tennis is more of an indication as to how well someone may box ( hand eye coordination, footwork etc ) yet nobody talks about tennis taking potentially great boxers.

The division is merely going through a lean spell. It's happened plenty of times in the past and this won't be the last.
 

Rocksuperstar

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Thing is, if someone with half an ounce of talent did decide to really push themselves, now is a fantastic time to step up. The K's are verging on retirement, the rest of the landscape is littered with very few real prospects, it could be a good time to make the step up.

On the other hand, with the drab state of the heavier divisions, as soon as anyone does do this then they'll find themselves hyped as the next Ali or Tyson, and have the entire boxing world following them about - this, i believe, can wreck a possible champions chances. Sure, i understand that being near the top means you have to deal with the attention, but it's like a ton of fat, hungry people in Krispy Kreme, all wanting the tray that's about to come out of the oven, rather than the tons of stale, cold one's already on the shelf. It's going to be mayhem, and we all know it. Just hope there's enough donuts to go around and still have a few left to give one of the Klits belly ache.
 
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