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Would signing Barkley affect the prospects of Spurs' youngsters?

JimmyG2

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Any signing from outside obviously impacts our own.
In this case two oven ready prospects in Winks, especially and Josh Onomah.
Where we don't have in house ready players fine.
But there are plenty of prospects bubbling under
who may surprise us if given the chance.

In this case there is a dilemma.
Do we promote our own regardless as club policy
or buy in if they are good enough (and cheap enough)
I think HW is potentially and actually much better than Ross Barkley as it happens
but Barkley has much more experience than Josh
.
I'm going with my heart in this and think in the circumstances
we should not take any risks with our own.
They make up in loyalty and commitment
for any marginal lack of quality and experience if it exists.

If he's cheap I don't think the bean counters will take this view.
 

McArchibald

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Jun 6, 2010
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Hi guys,

Hope you are well.

We've written something about how going after Ross Barkley may not be the best idea in terms of developing the young players coming into the team at the moment, which you can read below.

Don't damage Spurs youngsters by signing Barkley

Hope you enjoy it.

Thomas
Disagree with the article's conclusion. Barkley is an established premiership player who'll add strength in depth - especially as understudy to Eriksen. Snap him up.
 

Wheeler Dealer

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Barkley has proven what a decent player in the PL he can be, and he will add the necessary quality and experience needed to mount challenge. His signing overall is low risk.
 

Makkaveli101

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Disagree with the article's conclusion. Barkley is an established premiership player who'll add strength in depth - especially as understudy to Eriksen. Snap him up.

Agree, I really like his versatility as well. Will be an excellent player to have in the team/squad - you can bet your bottom dollar Poch will turn him into a great player as well.
 

chinaman

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Over the course of the next two years, I think Dembele, Sissoko and Lamela will be eased out. And if we can get constantly into the late rounds of all three knock-out tournies, there will be enough games for all of our aspiring midfielders even if Barkley is signed.
 

Everlasting Seconds

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Barkley will have no impact on Winks' development what so ever, because Winks will far surpass Barkley by the time Barkley would be match fit.
As for the conclusion, I agree.
 

newbie

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Barkley will have no impact on Winks' development what so ever, because Winks will far surpass Barkley by the time Barkley would be match fit.
As for the conclusion, I agree.

Winks and Onomah have a very high ceiling, i think Barkley is better suited as a more attacking
player.

I think Barkley would be a good signing, if the price is not rediculas.
 

smallsnc

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Barkley could be a great signing if he will really get with Poch's program. I think it will take him awhile to get Spurs style match fit and be a suitable rotation option to spell Eriksen / Alli. I think Winks will have the stuff to fend him off in the deeper positions but we really don't know Barkley's ceiling until he gets in our system.
 

DogsOfWar

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I agree with Chinaman, Dembele's on a downward spiral, Sissoko is limited, and we don't know what Lamela's long term future is.

Bringing in Barkley is a necessity as we currently need starters in the central attacking positions.
Winks is already a starter so it won't affect him and, as for Onomah, if he's good enough he'll get his opportunity.
 

Everlasting Seconds

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We should think about completely other signings out there. Rethink it all in January. Like Leon Goretzka, that's the kind of shit we should be looking at.
 

Gaz_Gammon

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Over the course of the next two years, I think Dembele, Sissoko and Lamela will be eased out. And if we can get constantly into the late rounds of all three knock-out tournies, there will be enough games for all of our aspiring midfielders even if Barkley is signed.

I'd like to see Lamela "eased" in before he's "eased out" to be fair...
;)
 

spursram

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Young players at the club will only be hindered if they are not better players than Barkley. Why is signing Barkley raising a question that previous signings have not raised?
 

Locotoro

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i think bringing in Barkley may see the end of Sissoko rather than hinder Winks and Onomah
 

Kiedis

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Worth adding that Barkley has spent his career thus far under Moyes, Martinez and Koeman. Six months under Poch, and he would be whole other animal.
 

dontcallme

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A 23 year old international in the last year of his contract is Levy's ideal signing as long as the wages are seen as reasonable.

Despite reports, not sure what the source for these are, I am not convinced Poch does plan to play Barkley in Dembele's place.

If he does it would be at the expense of Onomah and Winks.

But I think it is more likely to be in the attacking mid role. With Lamela injured and Sissoko playing deeper there is a space there for Barkley and it is not at the expense of any youngsters waiting for their chance.
 

Karlinho

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Barkley is already a goal scoring midfielder and would like to improve upon that working with Poch. Goals from midfield are what separates perennial CL qualifiers from the also ran, title winners from perhaps second or third.

Sentimentality has its place, but when you're talking about 7+ supplemental, gravy on top goals a season from players other your forwards, there has to be special consideration. Onomah, TOB and Winks may in future turn out to give us those goals and assists and create many chances consistently, but Barkley, in the here and now, deserves special consideration.
 

Shadydan

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Dembele isn't playing much games these days and Sissoko I suspect won't be there next year if Barkley comes in so I don't see how he'd affect anything.
 

Sp3akerboxxx

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We keep saying how we will be fucked if Eriksen gets injured, as we have no one who can really come in for him in that more creative attacking midfield position, so Barkley makes perfect sense. I think he will be an understudy to Eriksen. It is also a position in which England is sorely lacking, and probably his best route into the team for the World Cup.

I genuinely don't think we are looking to sign him and push him deeper when he has played all of his career further forward.
 
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