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Would you change our season for Chelsea's ?

Would you change our season for Chelsea's ?

  • Yes, winning a trophy is more important than getting into CL.

    Votes: 10 2.9%
  • No, getting into the Champions League is much more important

    Votes: 179 52.2%
  • Usually winning a trophy is more important but it was crucial to start in the new stadium with CL.

    Votes: 154 44.9%

  • Total voters
    343

mattyspurs

It is what it is
Jan 31, 2005
15,280
9,893
Fuck no, even when they were winning league titles I never wanted to swap a season with that plastic, racist **** hole of a club

****’s
 

Metalhead

But that's a debate for another thread.....
Nov 24, 2013
25,351
38,294
Does an FA cup win and CL qualification have to be mutually exclusive? I'd like to think that we can aspire towards both. I think that CL qualification was very important, if not absolutely crucial for the stadium move.
 

Woodyy

Well-Known Member
Jan 3, 2016
1,402
3,391
Not a chance. The only trophies that trump getting top 4 are winning the PL, CL and EL. The other 2 are just nice bonuses.

When you win a domestic trophy you enjoy it for that moment and then that's it, nothing actually comes of it. We get to enjoy at least a few months of Champions League football next year, they don't.
 

spurs mental

Well-Known Member
Mar 10, 2007
25,075
49,234
Simple answer

I'd be happy if we finished 5th and won the FA cup, but I wouldn't swap our season with theirs.
 

double0

Well-Known Member
Aug 29, 2006
14,423
12,258
Not a chance. The only trophies that trump getting top 4 are winning the PL, CL and EL. The other 2 are just nice bonuses.

When you win a domestic trophy you enjoy it for that moment and then that's it, nothing actually comes of it. We get to enjoy at least a few months of Champions League football next year, they don't.
Not true. Trophies come into play when you get into debates with other fans that want to chuck insults about your/our club not winning stuff.
 

TwanYid

Well-Known Member
Aug 1, 2013
1,223
3,484
No, I would not rather be where the likes of even Pompey once were: namely, celebrating an FA Cup win and that's that. I'd prefer to celebrate our clear, consistent ascension to the elite of world football, all done on a pauper's budget. This season was wonderful; we fucking bossed Real Madrid for fuck's sake! The top teams in Europe are now shitting themselves when they see us on the docket. We have created- and are maintaining- an aura, something an FA Cup win wouldn't deliver quite like a third consecutive top-3 finish does.

We have announced to the world that this ain't old Spurs. We are no joke now. I love that.

Honestly, when we beat Newcastle in a game that pre-Poch Spurs would've coughed up a fur ball in 99% of the time, I knew we'd made a leap. When Tottenham emerge victorious in MUST-win matches against minnows- that tells me all I need to know. The great ones do that (hell, Man U used to make a living off playing shit and yet somehow coming away with the three), and we are now doing it as well. Yes, I would've liked to have won the FA Cup- and I actually think we would've, especially now that the season's over and we could've played relaxed, who-cares, let's have fun-style football- but this season was so incredible in light of the fact that we played 19 matches at a soulless, cavernous, antiseptic bowl in the middle of nowhere that I'm just chuffed.

This season reminded me of our first one under Poch in that at the end- when it was all said and done- everyone was shocked that we finished as high as we did. No one (including me) thought third. Maybe fourth, but not third. We overcame so much that this, imo, was our best season under Poch, and I wouldn't trade it for the world.

Lastly, I truly, literally think that our club's DNA has changed. We aren't doormats anymore- we're winners. And we're not chokers anymore- we're a team that can- and does- grind out wins vs. teams gunning for us and dying to spoil the party. I also think that- far from demoralizing us- that horrendously painful second half vs. Juve will help us in the long run. Far from retreating into our shell, as a squad, we seem to be learning from our mistakes and improving mentally, another hallmark of a tough-minded team.

I love us so much it's unreal. I am SO proud of our club. And Poch deserves a twenty feet high statue of him- one made of solid gold-
erected right outside the main entrance to our new digs.

MAN it's a great time being a Spurs supporter these days.
 
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Lilbaz

Just call me Baz
Apr 1, 2005
41,363
74,893
I don't like it but getting into the champions league is much more important for us as a club than winning a trophy.

It's sad and why i hate the format of the champions league.
 

spids

Well-Known Member
Jul 19, 2015
6,647
27,841
Went C. It’s all about trophies for me. Fuck being brainwashing like an arsenal fan into thinking there’s a fourth placed trophy. Our honours board doesn’t reflect that.

... and yet it's only when Arsenal started finishing 5th and 6th and winning FA Cups (3 out of 4 before this year) that their whole club really came apart at the seams. It is sad the FA cup has slowly become increasingly meaningless (as domestic cups are in most other big leagues in Europe) ... but it just has. CL football is more important than winning the FA cup. Especially if you are not a financially doped club. If we'd won the FA cup but finished 5th, there's a good chance we'd be saying goodbye to the likes of Eriksen, whilst the loss of ~£60 Million a year would mean more Sissoko and less top drawer replacements, especially as we build our new stadium.
 

fatpiranha

dismember
Jun 9, 2003
8,337
21,678
It's a bit like the question of whether you would rather have a medal or a pay rise? It depends on what the medal is for and how big the pay rise is and how much you need it.

The FA cup used to be like winning the Victoria Cross but now it's more like Best in Breed at Crufts. Still an achievement but no longer top notch. This season we really needed the pay rise instead.
 

For the love of Spurs

Well-Known Member
Mar 28, 2015
3,444
11,252
3rd place , Champions League, no trophy

5th place, Europa League, win FA Cup

Which is better ?

Few years back would have said FA cup but the reality is CL football is a trophy these day considering the money and the players you can get with it potentially. It’s the peak for most players to play in it.

We do need a trophy but we really needed CL football going into the new stadium.
 

Gaz_Gammon

Well-Known Member
Apr 16, 2005
16,047
18,013
Would i fuck.

CL qualification is the be all and end all in today's game. Beating a few lower league teams and the odd PL side to get to an old and pretty meaningless domestic Cup final is so 1980's.

The football on display over the past decade in FA Cup finals hase been fucking atrocious and shows just how much teams give a damn. Was yesterday even a sell out?

Suppose Liverpool had made that final, what team would they have fielded. Therein lies the answer, it would have been a second string.
 

Black

Well-Known Member
May 21, 2007
4,807
4,872
If harry Kane stays forever at least he can say qualified for the Champions League Year in year out
 

poc

Well-Known Member
Aug 6, 2004
3,235
3,652
I would of taken a cup to get that monkey off our back tbh. Then next year 3rd and CL :)
 

guiltyparty

Well-Known Member
Sep 21, 2005
9,023
13,524
They can afford to miss out on CL, in both financial and status terms - they’re seen as a big club with recent European pedigree and they can still afford big players.

We can’t. It would be calamitous for us, specifically this year but in general. We’ve become reliant on the revenue, we can’t compete on wages so CL helps get players and us being in it consistently raises our profile too
 

Saoirse

Well-Known Member
Aug 20, 2013
6,143
15,550
Nope. Let's not resort to short-termism. Champions League is better for the finances, better for trying to keep the squad together, better for our reputation. All three of those factors are far more important for our chances of becoming a club which regularly wins trophies than a one-off pyrrhic victory.
 
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