Younes Kaboul at Pompey, interesting interview...

[lily_lane]

Firstly, it's good that Pomey TV has the whole interview on their website, Spurs usually only have about 10 seconds free and you have to subscribe for the rest.

This is an interview with YK after the Spam match yesterday, where he kept a clean sheet playing at CB again under Tony Adams. He talks about feeling uncomfortable at CM, where Harry played him previously. I thought it was interesting to hear the Player's POV, as people are suggesting the same thing about Corluka.

The video is embedded and will come up here:
http://www.portsmouthfc.co.uk/index.php?cms_ref=news&qs_article_id=1783

I liked Kaboul as a player, and wish him all the best at Pompey. He says himself he's still young (only 22) and it's unfortunate he was thrown in at the deep end with Spurs, and was too inexperienced to cope really.
But Good Luck to him for the rest of his career. :up:

 

[lily_lane]

Forgot to add, many thanks to SC member Kaboulio for the link. :up:

 

[Kendall]

Corluka has recently said he thinks DM is his best position, so there's a little difference there. Good find though, he comes across as a decent guy and I did think we were a little quick to sell him, but he should never have spoken out at being on the bench/not playing as a 21 yea old CB in a new league, that showed arrogance.

 

[lily_lane]

I did think we were a little quick to sell him, but he should never have spoken out at being on the bench/not playing as a 21 yea old CB in a new league, that showed arrogance.

No, I think it showed how upset he was that the Manager never even spoke to him, and banished him to Siberia, as he did so many other players. YK wasn't complaining that he was benched and should play, he was talking to a French magazine about the difference in styles of management between BMJ and Ramos.

We've seen what inclusive management does for a squad of players and a team's results. :wink:

 

[General Levy]

he looks like a lesbian.

 

[lily_lane]

he looks like a lesbian.

Jealous! :razz:

 

[SpurSince57]

No, I think it showed how upset he was that the Manager never even spoke to him, and banished him to Siberia, as he did so many other players. YK wasn't complaining that he was benched and should play, he was talking to a French magazine about the difference in styles of management between BMJ and Ramos.

We've seen what inclusive management does for a squad of players and a team's results. :wink:

He also rubbished Ramos, which was a pretty damnfool thing to do, even if it appears he was right. Saying outright that he wanted to move to Pompey probably went down like a cup of cold sick, too.

 

[Kendall]

Agreed.

Lily, I actually think kaboul was right in everything he said, but he sealed his own fate by doing it publically. Ramos had actually kept Kaboul on the fringes, even playing him in the CC final, but Kaboul should never have spoken out about Ramos' management style, in doing that he effectively sealed the end of his spurs career, which is a great shame because he could be a great CB in a couple of years.

 

[Bus-Conductor]

The whole treatment of Kaboul was poor by Ramos, from subbing him in the middle of games to selling him off.

I said so at the time (Bham & West Ham games I think). Subbing him at West Ham was aterible thing to do for his confidence. Kaboul was clearly a decent footballing CB. He was chucked into a struggling side with Dawson one side, Ekotto or Bale the other and Robinson behind him.

Could there ahev been a tougher environment for a young kid in a new country and much tougher league.

He may have turned out to be ultimately not good enough, but I think he was well worth a crack and towards the end of last year, with nothing at stake, should have been given a few games next to Woodgate, who may of actually taught him a thing or two.

Certainly he never would have been any more of a defensive liability than Dawson and at least he could play a bit.

Black mark for Mr Ramos there for me.

 

[SpurSince57]

From what he said, it was less the subbing and dropping in itself that got to Kaboul than the lack of explanation as to why it was done.

 

[PT]

For me his defining moment in a Spurs shirt was that 89th minute goal for us at home to Villa in the 125 game and he went racing to the bench in celebration.

Shame he went as he'll only get better, and Adams is the guy to tutor him.

I'd like to see Ghaly get another chance before we regret his departure too.

 

[snake1]

For me his defining moment in a Spurs shirt was that 89th minute goal for us at home to Villa in the 125 game and he went racing to the bench in celebration.

Shame he went as he'll only get better, and Adams is the guy to tutor him.

I'd like to see Ghaly get another chance before we regret his departure too.

Agreed.

 

[Bus-Conductor]

For me his defining moment in a Spurs shirt was that 89th minute goal for us at home to Villa in the 125 game and he went racing to the bench in celebration.

Shame he went as he'll only get better, and Adams is the guy to tutor him.

I'd like to see Ghaly get another chance before we regret his departure too.

For every Kaboul he got wrong there was a Ghaly he got right. I'm not sure what you saw in Ghaly that I didn't but what I saw was a bloke whose decision making process was severely flawed. Erratic to say the least and not exactly an inexperienced kid.

 

[PT]

Well BC I suppose my answer would be sadly - not enough of Ghaly really. He was erratic and unrefined a lot of the time but certainly brave and talented in the right environment. His chances mainly came on the downward slope of Jol's time and got cold shouldered by Ramos. I'd like to see if he can mature in our ranks in a defined role and save us a few bob in outing him and bringing in a replacement.

 

[Spursking]

A real shame that we sold him, and if it is possible to re-sign him for a good price, I would welcome him back!

 

[Banjo]

A real shame that we sold him, and if it is possible to re-sign him for a good price, I would welcome him back!

I'm not sure that resigning him would work - a bit too much like trying to turn the clock back. But I suspect this is one of the sales over summer (Taino and Steed also) that may come back and bite us in the arse!