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Youth football........is this what we can expect?

Shanks

Kinda not anymore....
May 11, 2005
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To be honest, if I heard another parent shout - break his fucking legs, I'd probably be going right for them.

Equally as bad, granted, but I simply couldn't keep quiet with that level of abuse going on.
 

riggi

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To be honest, if I heard another parent shout - break his fucking legs, I'd probably be going right for them.

Equally as bad, granted, but I simply couldn't keep quiet with that level of abuse going on.

 

Syn_13

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Jul 17, 2008
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My u11s play one side who every team in the area dislikes - parents pissed on the side shouting obscenities (apparently "break his fucking legs" has been heard a few times along with fighting amongst themsleves), the players kick and push, cheating at their home games, far more route one than trying to play decent football etc

So are the Stoke u11s any good then?
 

M.I.B.

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Jul 31, 2004
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'Break his fuckin legs' at an under 11s match!

Jesus wept there is no hope!


Sadly more common than you would have imagined.

And not the worst I've heard.

This Sunday, we've the delight of travelling down to Little Common, near Bexhill in East Sussex for my sons U-16 game. Played this team twice already (1 league, 1 cup) and despite the charming nature of the village, it's not reflected in the team.
First game ended in full on punch up, second was marred by their "parents" shouting at our coach "you're fucking special needs mate" after he complained about a violent challenge.
We also had to protest vehmently when they sent on a sub who for the 10 mins he was on, did nothing but make 2 footed, studs up, both feet up lunges at our boys. When we yelled at the ref after the 4th challenge, said player shouted back at us......."what's your fucking problem, I haven't caught anyone yet".

Astonishing attitude. And all encouraged by the coach and supporters.
 

NP4_Yid

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Jun 18, 2008
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Unfortunately all true.

A dad of one of my team has had a quiet word with one scumbag who was shouting "break his legs" during one match. Said scumbag did leave shortly after.
 

Legend10

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My god, no wonder some parents end up fighting if people are shouting that at the kids!

These idiots need locking up!
 

Legend10

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To be honest, if I heard another parent shout - break his fucking legs, I'd probably be going right for them.

Equally as bad, granted, but I simply couldn't keep quiet with that level of abuse going on.


I make you 100% right! it's unbelievable!

And no it's not as bad, it's totally merited!
 

NP4_Yid

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Jun 18, 2008
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Very often the parents are far more competitive than the kids. Even when this doesn't result in abuse and inappropriate comments it puts far too much pressure on the kids - winning becomes more important than just enjoying it.

80% of problems would be eradicated if parents were banned from watching. Infeasible though and it would be punishing the vast majority of fair minded and supportive parents.
As I mentioned before most parental problems come from those who have never kicked a ball in their lives.

But to repeat myself its down to the coaches to put a stop to such behaviour.
I'm lucky in that all my parents are really....well, normal I suppose in that they give the right sort of encouragement and support. I've never had cause to speak to any of them but I doubt there's too many coaches that can say the same!
 

jondesouza

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Oct 18, 2004
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My son plays under 8s football in Hertfordshire. Most of the parents, coaches and kids are great but there are a few idiots that spoil things. The worst is a team where the coach actively encourages his players to stamp on our lads' feet when they're marking/being marked. It is that 'winning is everything' mentality that causes it most of the problems.
 

Kendall

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My eldest lad is 16, and plays regularly for his (quite successful) school team, here in Crawley.
He's a reasonable standard, might make County level one day, but definitely no further.
The team have produced one West Ham academy player, one is just off to Brighton full-time, and another trains with Wimbledon.
The team went un-beaten for 3 years, winning the Sussex schools cup each time, but just failing in the "Nationals".

This afternoon, they had a Nationals game at Whitgift School, Croydon.

This team is packed full of academy players. West Ham, Palace, Fulham etc etc. (my sons team only had the Wimbledon trainee playing).

My sons team were soundly beaten ( 10-1), and he was amazed at the skill level shown, especially by a big tall forward who is on Englands list, called Emanuel something.

BUT.........and here is the crux of the post:

The entire game was filled with diving, screaming, appealing, falling over and general simulation by these academy boys.
The slightest coming together would see an instant shout and fall to the ground by these "young pros" and the more they got away with, the more they tried. It was a disgrace.

My lads team got so fed up they resorted to taking deliberate swipes at them, and received numerous bookings as a result, but he has come home totally demoralized and fed up.

Is this what we can expect for the future?....even more of this?
WHO is telling the boys to react like this? and why, because they have un-doubted talent?

If the FA are serious about this working group thing, then someone needs to step in quick and sort this.

it's good that we're finally learning how to cheat. The Argies and Spanish were doing it long before, oh and the Italians too.
 

ShelfSide18

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Aug 23, 2006
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I think the point at which I really, really despaired was last season when my team were losing 3-2 late on and the opposition coach urged their players to time waste, to leave the ball when it went out for a throw etc. For me, I wasn't annoyed they were stopping my teams chances of equalizing as development comes before results for me, it was the fact that winning had become everything for that coach. Highly depressing.

As I said though, there is hope, there are good people in positions of influence now, there is more and better information out there and a will to change that I think will win out. It will take a long time, but I am confident we are slowly, agonisingly moving in the right direction.
 

Gb160

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Jun 20, 2012
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What I find worrying,is that someone I know has recently taken over manager/coaching duties of an under 11s team.
This bloke is the last person I'd want giving advice to anyone on anything,he has an extensive criminal record,he's been to prison twice, his kids are an absolute nightmare,almost feral,due to his lacklustre approach to parenting.
From my understanding,there's no CRB check or any form of background check to determine whether the person is suitable for this role.
Don't get me wrong, I'm all for people having shady pasts and then turning their lives around, but that's not the case here, he's a scumbag, pure and simple.
 

Shanks

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May 11, 2005
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That is strange, CRB checks are an absolute must when dealing with children.
 

ShelfSide18

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This is what I thought....any ideas who I should let know?

Speak to the club in question maybe, who should be policing this. I was allowed to assist sessions with my club before my CRB was approved, however this was because I was in the presence of someone who was CRB certified.
 

Shanks

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May 11, 2005
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I'm crb and SC cleared, but if I take over a team, I will need to go through the councils specific crb checks.

Chances are he has been cleared, you can still be cleared even if you have been to prison.
 

NP4_Yid

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Jun 18, 2008
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This is what I thought....any ideas who I should let know?
In Wales you have to go through the CRB/DBS process if you are in any way involved e.g. reffing, just helping out etc. This all done by the club safeguarding officer who should be aware of all adults involved with the club. I assume its the same over the bridge.

I'm not an expert on these things but I think it would depend on what you've done time for as to whether you pass the CRB/DBS. Its not a foolproof method of weeding out the unsuitable people but at least it picks up the obvious wrong un's.
 

riggi

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Jun 24, 2008
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Fu king plod and CCTV ruining meets these days. It's better to take it to the youth games, less ob. Yid army!
 
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