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Zakora? What a DIRE player!

ibbz

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WHy oh why does the manager insist on playing this useless wreck of a player?
He brings absolutely nothing, except mistake after mistake. How he lasted 90 minutes, I will never know!
And even against Chelsea, how this absolute trash of a player was in the starting XI, only Ramos will know!

Who agrees with me?
And who agrees that tHudd or tanio are fare better partners for JJ?

And who thinks Robinsons constant hoofing long balls up - to no effect- were pointless? As when we played, building up with the ball on the deck, we were far more creative and dangerous and effective, besides players like Lennon, Taarbt and malbranque need to be given a chance to get into the game, and they're not the type to thrive off long balls.
 

Krafty

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Zokora is too anonymous. The rest of the midfield, and even the defence, should be taking their positions from where the holding midfielder sits. If he pushes forward to rpess it allows the defence to push up, and makes it easier for the midfielders to join and pass the front men.

But he just drops deeper and deeper, runs around a bit while the opposition just pass round him, and he offers absolutely nothing offensively. His lack of vision and speed of play can be a real damper on our attacking intent.

As for Robbo, its been three years and still he hasnt learned to put an angle on his kicks. He just piles them down the middle. If he aimed for the corners then at least when his kicks go long we can put pressure on their throw-in by their corner flag.
 
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Zokora (why can no one spell his bloody name right?)- I think you are wrong. He worked tirelessly against Chelsea and cut out some important moves. Yes he gave two dodgy free kicks away and missed when clean thru...but who else made that type of run on the day, JJ?? No-one.

Robbo's distribution has always been poor. The long punt up field (I said Punt, so I dont mean Adebayor or Crouch) has proven not to work for us. Play it out short and to a Spurs player and we are far more effective. We all complained in the world cup when he hoofed it downfield, or into the roof in one international I can remember. When we have players with ability to run and take players on like Lennon should and Malbranque does (though sometimes one too many) we should play it short and fast
 

Juande

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Zokora (why can no one spell his bloody name right?)- I think you are wrong. He worked tirelessly against Chelsea and cut out some important moves. Yes he gave two dodgy free kicks away and missed when clean thru...but who else made that type of run on the day, JJ?? No-one.

Robbo's distribution has always been poor. The long punt up field (I said Punt, so I dont mean Adebayor or Crouch) has proven not to work for us. Play it out short and to a Spurs player and we are far more effective. We all complained in the world cup when he hoofed it downfield, or into the roof in one international I can remember. When we have players with ability to run and take players on like Lennon should and Malbranque does (though sometimes one too many) we should play it short and fast



Yes run and do fuck all with the ball
 

paul_1979yid

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Dec 1, 2006
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Blimey we have worse players than Zokora!

He really is nt that bad. Just a typical africal player. inconsistent!
 

justfookinhitit

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Did find it moderately amusing that at one stage Zokora had the ball close to their penalty area and parts of the crowd yelled "shoooooot."

Clearly they wanted their front teeth re-arranged because for sure their goal wasn't in danger.

I've never thought he brings us what we need as a player and I think he has been given enough time to prove his worth but unfortunately hasn't lived up to the hype when he was signed.

Will be amazed if he is still with us at the start of next season.
 

JamesTheYiddo

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At least spell his fecking name right, It's not that hard :bang:

Oh and he's not a bad player either, Ramos obviously like's him as he plays him most games.
 
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I would think his distribution is as good as any 'keeper in the league.


It is always going to be a gamble punting the ball downfield, but some play the ball short a lot more than Robbo (dont get me wrong, I still want him to play for us). Gambling we will win the long ball means we dont ensure we keep possession. end of.
 

DC_Boy

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I didn't want Zoko to start last night - I don't rate him - but hey I do rate JR - just hope we don't see DZ in mid on sun -TT O'Hara Hudd prefer any/all of them
 

SC05

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I think you're being a bit harsh, although I can't remember the last time he had a really good game. I wouldn't say he is dire but hes not exactly brilliant either.

IMO he doesn't play to his strengths as effectively as he can. He seems more than happy playing out a simple pass and sitting in front of the defence rather than getting at players and using his pace better.
 

idlepete

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As for Robbo, its been three years and still he hasnt learned to put an angle on his kicks. He just piles them down the middle. If he aimed for the corners then at least when his kicks go long we can put pressure on their throw-in by their corner flag.

Yeah, let's not use our star striker with the strength, vision and aerial ability to ease players out and win high balls, the touch and technique to get it under control and the vision to make something out of it. That would be stupid. Are you Graham Taylor in disguise?
 

Evolution

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jesus...that was a little harsh. Zoko does make mistakes and he DOES give away dodgy free kicks. Thats the bad. However he brakes up the opposition play better then any player could in our current squad and he did that last night very well I thought.
 

LSUY

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Robbo's distribution has always been poor. The long punt up field (I said Punt, so I dont mean Adebayor or Crouch) has proven not to work for us. Play it out short and to a Spurs player and we are far more effective. When we have players with ability to run and take players on like Lennon should and Malbranque does (though sometimes one too many) we should play it short and fast

But their is times when our midfield does sod all, like last night. They couldn't string two passes together. Robbo's long kicks where the only way the strikers were getting service. Lennon, O'Hara, Jenas and Huddlestone's crosses and passes were all cut out with ease.

Zokora (why can no one spell his bloody name right?)- I think you are wrong. He worked tirelessly against Chelsea and cut out some important moves. Yes he gave two dodgy free kicks away and missed when clean thru...but who else made that type of run on the day, JJ?? No-one.

The problem is that is one game. He needs to perform like that on a weekly basis.
 

ibbz

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ZOkora (whatever his name is doesn't change the fact that he's pony)
He makes mistakes, he gives away dangerous free kicks (as against chelsea)
he is ineffective at passing, tackling, off the ball movement, defending or going forward. he has bundles of energy and stamina - but all wasted.

When JJ went off that was it, it was all over. I thought Zokora was going to take up JJ's role, but unfortunately Zokora isn't fit enough to wipe JJ's arse.

Zokora is not good enough for our first XI. There are and were better options out there yesterday, and in previous matches. I have a massive amount of respect for JR and GP, and they are the way forward. They are the best managers we've had in years, but I cannot fathom out or ascertain WHY Zokora is played time and time again when he has not performed!
he played in a defence the other day which leaked FOUR goals to Birmingham! So he is no defender, he cannot 'protect' the back four in a Makalele or Mikel role, neither is he at attacker as he cannot score.
His passing distribution is poor, he cannot cross, nor shoot, nor move into attacking positions - if he does I haven't noticed, and score lines haven't either (as when was the last time he scored?)

I just sincerely hope that JR drops him and sells him or loans him out as in my opinion, and in the opinion of a great many others, he's not just bad, but very poor and consistently so. Surely we're not all blinkered?
 

TheBlueRooster

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It is always going to be a gamble punting the ball downfield, but some play the ball short a lot more than Robbo (dont get me wrong, I still want him to play for us). Gambling we will win the long ball means we dont ensure we keep possession. end of.

Yeah but his passes aren't just boots downfield they are pretty spot on. They generally find the target.

I'd prefer us to play out from the back, but we're not very good at it against teams like PSV. They were good in the tackle and stopped all but a couple of plays last night.
 

ibbz

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Yes, and Farfan DID shake him off with ease in the build up to the PSV goal.

Zokora is consistently involved in mistakes.
 

ibbz

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but we were far more effective when playing from the back along the deck last night - we allowed players like Malb and Lenn to get into the game. Hoofing didn't give us anything, it allowed PSV to defend in numbers, deep and cancel out every Hoof
 
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