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Zokora at Right Back - Inspired?

southlondonyiddo

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Luckily you have nothing to do with team selection as Jol, Ramos AND Redknapp all put him as one of the first on the team sheet. In your delusion you obviously aspire to being a better manager than any of them.




Until recently there had been little choice other than to play Zokora in CM. Thank God that has now changed and we can hopefully move onwards and upwards.

JOL/RAMOS/REDKNAPP would all play Palacios and JJ ahead of Zokora in Central midfield and so would I.

Some idiots on here (that may include you) and where I sit at Tottenham would not.
 

walworthyid

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Until recently there had been little choice other than to play Zokora in CM. Thank God that has now changed and we can hopefully move onwards and upwards.

JOL/RAMOS/REDKNAPP would all play Palacios and JJ ahead of Zokora in Central midfield and so would I.

Some idiots on here (that may include you) and where I sit at Tottenham would not.

Just because some people get fed up with JJ being a completely anonymous presence in midfield doesn't make them idiots now does it?

On the form of the last couple of games Zokora would be better than Palacios. JJ has been ok but to say that he consistently plays miles better than Zokora is delusional nonsense because he simply doesn't.
 

ginol@14

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dont bother mate , he aint worth it , anyone that dont agree with him is either stupid or a mug !

zokora is a good honest HARD WORKING player
its funny how the people that are in love with jj cant stand zokora
what he lacks in talent he makes up for in passion
i dont recall ever seeing zokora going missing in a game
tbh i have always been impressed with him when he has played right back or centre back , he is a great squad player and will definatly be part of our team next seson
 

stemark44

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I think Zokora is a good utility squad player and I would be happy for him to stay at Spurs.
He can do a job in a number of positions however I much prefer him at RB and I think its his best chance of playing regularly in the team.For me Corluka is not good enough going forward and Zokora has the engine to get up and down the flanks.
I really do hope that Harry selects him there against Villa because he can do a job on Young!
 

walworthyid

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It just makes me laugh that the people who constantly criticise Zokora generally love Hudd and JJ and you would struggle to find 2 players who are more anonymous and epitomise much of what is wrong with our team.

JJ has talent, not as much as many seem to think, but he spends most of his time passing 5 yad balls across the halfway line. If he played to his best, as Zokora does EVERY game, he would be an asset, as it is he doesn't and as a result he is frequently poor.

Zokora is much better than people think and we would struggle to find a player as committed, hardworking, versatile and consistent to come to our club, not complain when he doesn't play and just give his all when called upon.
 

Kendall

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I love both Jenas and Zokora, totally different players though and I think Jenas has more strings to his bow and complements Palacios better
 

walworthyid

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I love both Jenas and Zokora, totally different players though and I think Jenas has more strings to his bow and complements Palacios better

I think we all agree on that one. The point of disagreement seems to be over whether Zokora's consistent playing of all of his strings is better than Jenas' only playing as well as he can a couple of times per season.

Perhaps we could splice them into one player?
 

Has1978

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I agree with that

Some of us have always said Zokora does a very decent job either in Central defence or at full back but he is not a Premiership CM player, end of.

I thought he did well last night and I've seen him play well for us in Central Defence.

I have never seen him have a good game in CM

pretty much my view.
 

NEVILLEB

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You shouldn't have a player with poor passing ability in centre midfield.

His best attributes are suited to right back
 

jrio

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I did get a mountain of neg rep on my head when, after the CC Final, I suggested Zokora at RB was the least of the evils he could commit at Spurs there(thanks RussellYid, for judging it "worst post ever seen on SC" :rofl:), and that he has little football ability but is largely an athlete. I wonder if I'll get any positive rep after Zokora's display against Young showed that he has little to offer defensively, except late in games? Today Corluka showed that qualities other than pace are important in defending against pace.:grin:
 

spurs4europe

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I did get a mountain of neg rep on my head when, after the CC Final, I suggested Zokora at RB was the least of the evils he could commit at Spurs there(thanks RussellYid, for judging it "worst post ever seen on SC" :rofl:), and that he has little football ability but is largely an athlete. I wonder if I'll get any positive rep after Zokora's display against Young showed that he has little to offer defensively, except late in games? Today Corluka showed that qualities other than pace are important in defending against pace.:grin:

Come on. He was dealing with one of the players of the season today. Yes he came out worst on this occasion but there have been plenty of others when he has filled in (in what is not his main position) and not only done a job but shone too.

I'm not going to give you positive rep because I think that Zokora can also do a job in CM and I have no problems with him filling in for one of our main two in Jenas and Palacios as Zokora has been quite a revelation this season and has really come on leaps and bounds.

Before Palacios came in and with Jenas injured, Zokora had managed to fashion quite a partnership with Modric in the middle, whilst even recently against United in the CC final he succeeded in being one of the performers of the team in what was largely a fantastic team performance.

As long as he wants to remain at this club, he will stay, no doubts about it.
 

longdistancespursfan

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I did get a mountain of neg rep on my head when, after the CC Final, I suggested Zokora at RB was the least of the evils he could commit at Spurs there(thanks RussellYid, for judging it "worst post ever seen on SC" :rofl:), and that he has little football ability but is largely an athlete. I wonder if I'll get any positive rep after Zokora's display against Young showed that he has little to offer defensively, except late in games? Today Corluka showed that qualities other than pace are important in defending against pace.:grin:


no-one likes an 'i told you so' :snooty:
 

Michey

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I did get a mountain of neg rep on my head when, after the CC Final, I suggested Zokora at RB was the least of the evils he could commit at Spurs there(thanks RussellYid, for judging it "worst post ever seen on SC" :rofl:), and that he has little football ability but is largely an athlete. I wonder if I'll get any positive rep after Zokora's display against Young showed that he has little to offer defensively, except late in games? Today Corluka showed that qualities other than pace are important in defending against pace.:grin:
It's just plain stupid to blame Zokora for anything in this game. The management understood that they took the wrong decision when playing an out-of-position RB against Young only based on his ability to match pace.

If you're gonna blame someone blame those that put him there.

Not a swipe against anyone....just trying to explain to someone that tries to make easy points when actually not understanding what he saw.
 

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Corluka got roasted by Young at the Lane and recently Zokora has been solid at right back in our mini revival. The right thing to do was to put a pacey player who can play at right back up against Young. That rules our Corluka, although Corluka is the better defensive right back.

If Zokora hadn't picked up an early yellow because he was being targetted, make no mistake, he would have gone on until being subbed in the second half through exhaustion.
 

Kendall

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I picked him in my team before the game.

The reason was simply because he is quick, his man marking is usually excellent and he has had Ronaldo among others in his pocket when he's played RB before.

Today was simply a bad day for Zokora and we should give Redknapp kudos for having the bollocks to bring him off early.
 

jurgen

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I picked him in my team before the game.

The reason was simply because he is quick, his man marking is usually excellent and he has had Ronaldo among others in his pocket when he's played RB before.

Today was simply a bad day for Zokora and we should give Redknapp kudos for having the bollocks to bring him off early.

Exactly, management clearly saw Zok doing a decent job against pacey players at RB before combined with Corluka getting skinned by Young previously, but seeing it was going wrong, took action very quickly and decisively and brought charlie on who was helped a lot by hard work from the man in front of him. You could see Zokora was trying too hard not to get himself sent off after the booking and something had to be done, but as many on here backed up, the initial premise was a decent one and was swiftly acted upon when it wasnt working. Good stuff.
 

jrio

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Corluka got roasted by Young at the Lane and recently Zokora has been solid at right back in our mini revival. The right thing to do was to put a pacey player who can play at right back up against Young. That rules our Corluka, although Corluka is the better defensive right back.

If Zokora hadn't picked up an early yellow because he was being targetted, make no mistake, he would have gone on until being subbed in the second half through exhaustion.
The yellow card made no difference. Young was ripping Zokora to pieces, the fact that Zokora has a similar level of pace giving him no advantage over Corluka. Rather quieter in the 2nd half Young, wasn't he?
 

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Rather quieter in the 2nd half Young, wasn't he?
If you inferring that Corluka was the sole reason for Young's ineffectiveness then you are wrong.

In the second half, both Lennon and Corluka doubled up on Young, but going forward, which we were mostly doing, and using Lenno as the outlet, Lennon was busy roasting Reo-Coker and Young had no little opportunity to go one against one on Corluka.

Don't get me wrong, Corluka is a better right back than Zokora but the first call was right - pace against pace. Otherwise it would have been Verdan on the yellow for the entire second half and that left flank would have been exploited far more than it was.
 

jrio

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If you inferring that Corluka was the sole reason for Young's ineffectiveness then you are wrong.

In the second half, both Lennon and Corluka doubled up on Young, but going forward, which we were mostly doing, and using Lenno as the outlet, Lennon was busy roasting Reo-Coker and Young had no little opportunity to go one against one on Corluka.

Don't get me wrong, Corluka is a better right back than Zokora but the first call was right - pace against pace. Otherwise it would have been Verdan on the yellow for the entire second half and that left flank would have been exploited far more than it was.
No, it was wrong. Corluka picks up few yellows and Zokora accumulates many. Zokora is a poor footballer, Corluka one of great quality.

Lennon had already been dropping back to cover Young whilst Zokora was at RB, but Corluka's better use of possession, and intelligence in possession, allowed Lennon more scope to attack.
 

RussellYid

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I did get a mountain of neg rep on my head when, after the CC Final, I suggested Zokora at RB was the least of the evils he could commit at Spurs there(thanks RussellYid, for judging it "worst post ever seen on SC" :rofl:), and that he has little football ability but is largely an athlete. I wonder if I'll get any positive rep after Zokora's display against Young showed that he has little to offer defensively, except late in games? Today Corluka showed that qualities other than pace are important in defending against pace.:grin:

You are an absolute numpty.

On the fifth of March you slate Zokora. You get an immense about of abuse back due to your pathetic posts (including calling him the worst international player ever to play for Spurs and wanting Mabizela ahead of him due to one goal against Leicester) and you go completely quiet.

He has a poor 35 minutes today and here you are again, popping up with the negativity.

Why do you bother?

Do you get enjoyment out of Zokora playing badly?

Why do you do it? Why do you support Spurs?

You're a an eejit. Pure and simple.
 
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