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Zokora - Worst Player I've ever seen

paul_m2k5

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I for one am not surprised about the situation we are in at the moment.
People are pointing the finger at a number of reasons we are 3rd from bottom and have 20 points.
It started about 3 years ago when we sold Carrick to Man Utd and did not spend £15-20m on a world class Midfield General e.g. Ballack, Essien.
A player that is not afraid to get his shorts dirty.
That brings me onto to Zokora.
One of the worst overrated players I have ever seen in a Spurs shirt.
All he can do is run for 90 Mins, that’s it.
He can’t pass, shoot, read the game, keep the ball for more than 3 seconds or make a tackle without conceding a foul.
I would rather start the game with 10 men than have him running around like a headless chicken all game.
But I can’t figure out why so many people on this site and Spurs fans in general thinks he’s the bees knees.
I’ve lost count of the amount of times he’s given the ball away, put us in tight situations, given away needless fouls and
Been in goal scoring positions and put the ball in row Z.
Bottom line is he is absolutely Sh*t.
I don’t care if people slate me for what I’m saying.
It’s the truth.
Too many fans are wearing there “Spurs Glasses” when watching him.
What I mean by that is just because he is wearing the shirt and running around all game people think
He’s doing a good job and trying hard.
He is doing neither.
If he was as good as many fans on here think, why aren’t any of the top 4 or any other top teams in Europe knocking
On our door with offers. Because if he was that good they would have signed him before we did.
But no, we wasted £8m on him and we have just given him a new 4 year deal.
What the hell is that all about.
As long as he keeps playing we are not going to win games.
I’m so glad he did not score the winning goal in the Carling Cup Final last year.
He would have been put in the hall of fame and given a contract for life.

The fact is that we have a team that IS good enough to be in the top 6, but we don’t have a team to get us out the bottom half the
Table.
Harry is the right man to get us out of this slump.
But players like Zokora are not.

Bring on the Abuse, I’m ready for it, But don’t care.
 

DavidsSpecs

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wonder how long this will stay open? for what it's worth I think you qualify for overreaction of the decade. Essien he may not be but useless he is not. He's one of only a handful of players who plays out of his skin when he dons the shirt - I'd have that over a top drawer prima donna anyday.
 

GLUESODA

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While i have definetly seen worse players in my life, he is the single most reason why i've broken 3 remote controls, a chair & my girlfriends stapler this season, and im definately gonna need another coat of paint on my wall by the time the season out

My neihbour also calls me "f*#ken useless Zakora" cause he hears me shouting it at least once a week

I also play the same position as Zakora for the local team, and maybe over judge him on what he does, but he is definately one of the poorest midfielders in the premiership in my opinion...
 

Rocksuperstar

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I for one am not surprised about the situation we are in at the moment.
People are pointing the finger at a number of reasons we are 3rd from bottom and have 20 points.
It started about 3 years ago when we sold Carrick to Man Utd and did not spend £15-20m on a world class Midfield General e.g. Ballack, Essien.
A player that is not afraid to get his shorts dirty.
That brings me onto to Zokora.
One of the worst overrated players I have ever seen in a Spurs shirt.
All he can do is run for 90 Mins, that’s it.
He can’t pass, shoot, read the game, keep the ball for more than 3 seconds or make a tackle without conceding a foul.
I would rather start the game with 10 men than have him running around like a headless chicken all game.
But I can’t figure out why so many people on this site and Spurs fans in general thinks he’s the bees knees.
I’ve lost count of the amount of times he’s given the ball away, put us in tight situations, given away needless fouls and
Been in goal scoring positions and put the ball in row Z.
Bottom line is he is absolutely Sh*t.
I don’t care if people slate me for what I’m saying.
It’s the truth.
Too many fans are wearing there “Spurs Glasses” when watching him.
What I mean by that is just because he is wearing the shirt and running around all game people think
He’s doing a good job and trying hard.
He is doing neither.
If he was as good as many fans on here think, why aren’t any of the top 4 or any other top teams in Europe knocking
On our door with offers. Because if he was that good they would have signed him before we did.
But no, we wasted £8m on him and we have just given him a new 4 year deal.
What the hell is that all about.
As long as he keeps playing we are not going to win games.
I’m so glad he did not score the winning goal in the Carling Cup Final last year.
He would have been put in the hall of fame and given a contract for life.

The fact is that we have a team that IS good enough to be in the top 6, but we don’t have a team to get us out the bottom half the
Table.
Harry is the right man to get us out of this slump.
But players like Zokora are not.

Bring on the Abuse, I’m ready for it, But don’t care.
Jebus crisps...

Look, if so many of you hate him that much then either

a) Make a facebook group about it, that seems to be a popular way for people to shout off about people they don't like.

or

b) Just go and have a fight with the guy, if nothing else it will make you feel better.

Until Harry, Ramos & Martin all release stories claiming they were on drugs when they admired the big fella, i have to stand by their opinion as it appears to match mine. Whereas you see him running away from the ball, i see him making space - i'd love to watch a few games on the tellybox with you and one of Sky's magic pens so you can pause it and show me where he should've been and when.

He's a hard working, incredibly fit midfielder who is our only back tackling midfielder right now. He has the pace Jamie'O lacks, he has the strength Lennon and Modric lack, he has the balls when going in for a tackle that... well, our entire team short of Jamie'O lacks. He runs with the ball, spots a gap opening up and goes for it. Granted sometimes it won't come off, but Bale is f*cking diabolical, Bentley has sucked satans balls, aside from one or two good touches and Bent has been nothing but a pre-season hero.

Get the f*ck off of his back - you don't like him, we get it, but we don't need another new thread every time someone decides that a member of our first team, a player lauded by several very respected managers, with many years experience in the game and many more hours spent in his company whilst training, being picked ahead of other options and still getting slated when the side around him are playing like a bunch of muggins, is "the worst player ever to pull on a Spurs shirt" or whatever.

Trust me, there are many, many, many worse players to have pulled on the lilywhite shirt.

And next time, search for one of the 8 bajillion "I Hate Zokora" threads... this one is unnecessary.
 

Rocksuperstar

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I notice that, repeated attempts by me ignored, not one of you can explain to me why all three of our recent managers and our DoF rate him, after months of familiarity, who are in a far better position to make a fair judgement on his ability than any of us.

Anyone want to give it a crack before this gets merged into... i dunno, one of the others?

'ere, Mods, how about a "Zokoraforum"? Aside from sounding dead cool (say it out loud - Zokoraforum - excellent :up: ) it'd mean all the Zoko haters could spout off as much as they liked, well away from those of us who are getting fed up with this unfair finger pointing, when so many of the squad are underachieving right now.
 

Marty

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I agree that we need to improve on him, but surely you can write a less hate-filled and slightly more objective post than that?

For example I have no problems admitting that Zokora is a very good player off the ball. It's on the ball he's useless.

His lung-bursting runs end at best with a free kick in the opponents half as he never looks up to pick out a pass and just storms through.
His first touch is one of the worst I've ever seen in a Spurs player.
He is totally ineffective in the attacking third.

Those reasons are why we have to improve on him. He reminds me so much of Øyvind Leonhardsen, only he has more responsibilities than just running around being a pest.
 

MattyP

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I can answer this thread in seven words.

Worse than Rasiak? I don't think so.
 

Rocksuperstar

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I agree that we need to improve on him, but surely you can write a less hate-filled and slightly more objective post than that?

For example I have no problems admitting that Zokora is a very good player off the ball. It's on the ball he's useless.

His lung-bursting runs end at best with a free kick in the opponents half as he never looks up to pick out a pass and just storms through.
His first touch is one of the worst I've ever seen in a Spurs player.
He is totally ineffective in the attacking third.

Those reasons are why we have to improve on him. He reminds me so much of Øyvind Leonhardsen, only he has more responsibilities than just running around being a pest.
His first touch isn't as bad as Jenas and his pinball-bumper-shoes. A worse first touch i'm yet to see in the current squad.
 

DJW

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I agree with the sentiment of this, if not the ferocity. Good to see a bit of passion though. I have seen worse...Stuart Nethercott, Kevin Scott and Andy Booth spring to mind.

The thing is that people have different opinions on nearly every player, so a rant like this is going to wind certain people up. I know the subject of JJ splits many as does Zokora. I loved Carrick from the start but I know others who slated him up until he left.

I personally don't like him.

He loves a dive, he can't tackle, his passing isn't great and I won't go into his shooting.

His positional sense is poor....Yes he is quick but if he was in the right position in the first place he wouldn't need to sprint back into where he should be.

He does get about the pitch and give 100% though and I can see why some people may like him.

However I will say that at the moment in the stadium we need to get behind ALL the players whatever we may think of them. We are in the sh*t and slating them isn't going to help. So vent away on the forums and get it off your chest, but when we step into the ground let's get behind everyone.
 

walworthyid

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Where do you start with this one?

Look, I don't think there is anybody in the entire world, perhaps excluding Zokora's close family, who think he is the "bee's knees" but there are quite a few PROFESSIONAL football managers who seem to think he is not too bad. Ramos, Jol, Redknapp, the Ivory Coast manager, plus the other club managers he has played for.

I can't even be bothered to defend him, but what I will say is that there are other players who are far, far worse than him. If we had 11 players with commitment and spirit of Zokora we would not be in the bottom 3. Bent, Bentley, Hudd, Bale, Jenas have all been much worse at their jobs than Zokora this season.

You need to actually watch the match instead of shouting at the telly with your eyes closed.
 

Marty

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His first touch isn't as bad as Jenas and his pinball-bumper-shoes. A worse first touch i'm yet to see in the current squad.
I know Jenas doesn't have a great one either, that's why I said "one of the worst", and didn't mention Jenas as this is a Zokora thread.
 

nicdic

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What a joke. He's in the top 3 or 4 players at the club this season. Ridiculous thing to say.
 

Rocksuperstar

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I know Jenas doesn't have a great one either, that's why I said "one of the worst", and didn't mention Jenas as this is a Zokora thread.
ah, that shouldn't stop you - dammit, i dragged some of the most popular threads off topic in a matter of one or two pics before now - figure this one's a carbon of all the others so i might as well drift a bit, see where the current takes me and, if the opportunity arises i'll tug on the rope of discombobulation a bit and derail this mofo :lol:





and on that note, time to hit the horns - maestro, if you please, my entrance music?



dun dun DUNNNNUNUNNUNNNNNN!!!

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Spursking

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I cannot understand if people like that. How can you say that Zokora can be the worst player ever played at Tottenham?

Have you seen Tottenham a long time?
 

Marty

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I expect him to have more to his game than the ability to hassle, being able to hold a position and sit in front of the back four breaking up play would be a start.
 

nicdic

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I expect him to have more to his game than the ability to hassle, being able to hold a position and sit in front of the back four breaking up play would be a start.

What about the ability to turn up every week, and put in 100% regardless of weather, or if we're at home or not. Or what about the ability to release pressure off the defence and look to go forwards at pace. What about the ability to make great tackles when we're being countered against. What about the ability to let his midfield partner (Jenas) to be completely anonymous, or push forwards (Modric) to try and create more?
 

Marty

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What about the ability to turn up every week, and put in 100% regardless of weather, or if we're at home or not. Or what about the ability to release pressure off the defence and look to go forwards at pace. What about the ability to make great tackles when we're being countered against. What about the ability to let his midfield partner (Jenas) to be completely anonymous, or push forwards (Modric) to try and create more?
I'll give you the bolded part, he does that very well. The rest ... let's just agree to respectfully disagree :wink:

In my honest opinion our best games this season have been with THudd and Jenas behind Modric in midfield. Harry started out with this setup, changed a winning team and we've been struggling since.
 
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