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Player Watch: Nabil Bentaleb

tiger666

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Jan 4, 2005
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25k it's ridicule

Kane 50k first season like bentaleb


In the bench and make nothing

Capoue 42k
Dèmbélé 84k
Pauli 50k
Chiches 45k
Soldado 78k
Walker 71k every time unjured

etc etc

Nabil he's rignt it's not aquality

You his agent or something?
 

beats1

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Feb 22, 2010
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I see the art of negotiation is lost on quite a few in here.
The art of respect maybe lost on others here. So here we have an academy player who has stepped up and proved himself to be good yet we offering a pathetic wage of 25k a week. Meanwhile we value him at £20m

If we were to sign him off another club would we be offering the same wage? No!

Its funny in the past how our old players have always been angered the way the club has treated them and it led to some big players leaving like Jennings

He has been first team player for two season so around £35k is fair especially given he is our no.1 CM
 

npearl4spurs

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Sep 9, 2014
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hertyid says he has a 3 + 1 with 12 month reviews. When did he sign his last contract? Has it been 12 months, or have we entered into negotiations early with him out of reward?
 

Trix

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The art of respect maybe lost on others here. So here we have an academy player who has stepped up and proved himself to be good yet we offering a pathetic wage of 25k a week. Meanwhile we value him at £20m

If we were to sign him off another club would we be offering the same wage? No!

Its funny in the past how our old players have always been angered the way the club has treated them and it led to some big players leaving like Jennings

He has been first team player for two season so around £35k is fair especially given he is our no.1 CM

Says who the Evening Standard?
 

Jimmyjimmyo

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Feb 5, 2014
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25k it's ridicule

Kane 50k first season like bentaleb


In the bench and make nothing

Capoue 42k
Dèmbélé 84k
Pauli 50k
Chiches 45k
Soldado 78k
Walker 71k every time unjured

etc etc

Nabil he's rignt it's not aquality


Where are you getting these numbers from? no way is walker on £71k a week

If Kane is on £50k then we have a bargain there as he is a rare talent and our only decent striker (one of the few players who actually perform) strikers will always earn more as its the glamour position which is why the aussies went nuts for him on the post season tour.

If those players are on that money then Benteleb needs to fire his agent and hire Walkers to come to the table and negotiate because he must have some dirt on Levy
 

thfc1973

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Apr 29, 2015
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25k it's ridicule

Kane 50k first season like bentaleb


In the bench and make nothing

Capoue 42k
Dèmbélé 84k
Pauli 50k
Chiches 45k
Soldado 78k
Walker 71k every time unjured

etc etc

Nabil he's rignt it's not aquality

I disagree with your examples to justify Bentaleb deserving 40k per week. I'm not saying he's wrong or you are for expecting 40k but your argument is completely flawed!
All those names listed are Internationals who have played for their countries prior to coming to Spurs or signing with us, all those you named had experience at senior club/country level and were brought in based on that - bar Walker who had been settled in the 1st team season(s) before. Bentaleb was in effect an academy player with 0 (zero) experience to his name, so how can you think those players you mentioned as examples proves theres inequality? If anything it proves the opposite!
 

beats1

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I disagree with your examples to justify Bentaleb deserving 40k per week. I'm not saying he's wrong or you are for expecting 40k but your argument is completely flawed!
All those names listed are Internationals who have played for their countries prior to coming to Spurs or signing with us, all those you named had experience at senior club/country level and were brought in based on that - bar Walker who had been settled in the 1st team season(s) before. Bentaleb was in effect an academy player with 0 (zero) experience to his name, so how can you think those players you mentioned as examples proves theres inequality? If anything it proves the opposite!
I dont understand this, because if he is performing better than all of them there is an argument to be made he should be paid more

However you are saying because he didn't have the experience he therefore shouldn't be paid more?

As for international experience he has more experience of Capoue in the PL and more than any of those players on that list
 

Syn_13

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Jul 17, 2008
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kane's on 35k. same as ruben loftus-cheek.

Guy I work with trains some of the Chelsea kids. Only young'uns, but he's seen a few lads come through even from an early age. Funnily enough I was chatting with him earlier about how much some of the Chelsea U21 players earn. He's of the opinion that once they sign contracts with the club they no longer give a shit about football and lose that desire to just go out and have fun like the young kids he trains. He also said that they play a little game as to who can earn the most without ever giving a shit or even understanding what they're earning. Solanke and Brown are on quite a bit too I think.
 

Ossie85

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I dont understand this, because if he is performing better than all of them there is an argument to be made he should be paid more

However you are saying because he didn't have the experience he therefore shouldn't be paid more?

As for international experience he has more experience of Capoue in the PL and more than any of those players on that list
25k it's ridicule

Kane 50k first season like bentaleb


In the bench and make nothing

Capoue 42k
Dèmbélé 84k
Pauli 50k
Chiches 45k
Soldado 78k
Walker 71k every time unjured

etc etc

Nabil he's rignt it's not aquality

Kane did A LOT more than Bentaleb to deserve that wage (if that's even true). He was close to being EPL Player of the Year. What did Bentaleb do to deserve the same treatment?

And the rest either earned that wage by performing on another club, or performed several years (Walker)
Bentaleb only has a season, and he has the spot because we are a disaster in midfield. If we had a proper midfield he would be warming the bench, learning from the rest and shutting the fuck up. Who the fuck does he think he is? Talking to the media about deserving money and threatening to leave for a CL team. If he's unhappy and wants to leave he can rot in the reserves, as he has 3 years left
 

thfc1973

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I dont understand this, because if he is performing better than all of them there is an argument to be made he should be paid more

However you are saying because he didn't have the experience he therefore shouldn't be paid more?

As for international experience he has more experience of Capoue in the PL and more than any of those players on that list

But the problem is just because Bentaleb played better than those people in his 1 shining season then you cant suddenly wipe the salary slate clean and say he should be paid more than them now. They were brought in based on something, whether it be experience, their previous form, their potential etc and they were signed to contracts. Most failed to perform but you cant now cut their salaries, that's the way the game is and how contracts are, they'll be on them till we sell them or theres a renewal of contracts, but Bentaleb cant suddenly be expected to get more than any of those just because he's better than them all this season. One would have to see if he continues to perform well next season and then fairly compensate him from then on, but if theres any negotiations to be had its shouldn't even be a .
 

Flashspur

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Jul 28, 2012
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Whats amateur is Bentaleb getting his agent to talk publicly about the negotiations and then himself happily talking to the press about the negotiations, thats fucking amateur. The club in the past have always rewarded players who perform, Modric, Bale, Hugo, Kane all got good contracts (for our club), so I have no reason to believe the club are fucking about.. Yes I want the contract to get sorted out, yes I believe he is going to be a top talent but this sort of shit royally fucks me off, player power or not. 1 season he has had after in his own words our club taking a chance on him and saving his career.

It's a 9 month negotiation dude. Thats fucking amateur. In fact thats pathetic. No one goes that long unless they are still on training wheels. Deals can die in 48 hours if the other party smells you arn'et in the game. I've been involved in negotiating a lot of very big deals for clients. We dont fuck around waiting for 9 months. Thats a long time for foreplay champ, after a week I'd be looking elsewhere for another bit of snatch! Its just the way contract negotiations go.
 
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Flashspur

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Jul 28, 2012
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I disagree with your examples to justify Bentaleb deserving 40k per week. I'm not saying he's wrong or you are for expecting 40k but your argument is completely flawed!
All those names listed are Internationals who have played for their countries prior to coming to Spurs or signing with us, all those you named had experience at senior club/country level and were brought in based on that - bar Walker who had been settled in the 1st team season(s) before. Bentaleb was in effect an academy player with 0 (zero) experience to his name, so how can you think those players you mentioned as examples proves theres inequality? If anything it proves the opposite!

Mate, seriously do you have a job? Have you ever negotiated with your boss? Do you know anything about EPL wage structures? Do you live in the real world? You have an academy player outperforming established internationals and think he does not deserve parity because there is no evidence of wage inequality? Fuck me dead! :D
 

IGSpur

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Jan 11, 2013
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How will we lose him just because we haven't as yet come to an agreement on his wage increase? He still has 3 years left on his contract. There's plenty of time yet, I don't see what the urgency is.

Out of all of what I wrote that is somewhat of a moot point, granted he has a couple years left and I wrote that sentence not knowing his exact contract length but the main debate or point of the post (and previous ones) was, is he worth 40k or 25k.

I believe that if we wanted to replace what Bentaleb offers in midfield or were buying Bentaleb from another club we would pay at least 40k. For example if we bought someone like Kovacic people would be happy to pay him at least 40k.

As @JUSTINSIGNAL said we don't really know the numbers involved but Im basing my arguments on the numbers presented.
 

Shadydan

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Jul 7, 2012
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I personally think he'll sign once the summer is over when we will hopefully get rid of those stealing a living and therefore decrease or budget, its a waiting game.
 
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