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Graysonti

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I love some of the work Levy has done but it’s time to make a statement in the market and put what makes this club actually exists first - not bricks and mortar but it’s playing squad.

Poch deserves it, the players deserve it and most importantly, the fans deserve it.

Massive attendances this season and the fans have backed the club by taking up those ludicrously high season ticket prices.

Whilst walking on our polished crushed floors is very nice, they would stand in piss to watch a great team and some pots.

Make it happen Daniel and your £ will flow.
 

Setzthree

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One of the things that sucks about modern society, fans becomes spoiled with the amount of attainable information (false or right) and makes outrageous conclusions often based on bullshit. Have some faith in Poch and Levy.
 
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One of the things that sucks about modern society, fans becomes spoiled with the amount of attainable information (false or right) and makes outrageous conclusions often based on bullshit.
Paul Merson is the living embodiment of this.
 

dagraham

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Which is why getting Modric would be so important for us I feel

I’d love for us to sign some experienced quality, but unless they’ve had a huge change of strategy that just goes against everything that Poch and Levy have done so far.
 

The Swellhead Spur

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Brilliant CB but the the thought of a player that slow in our high line is the stuff of nightmares.

A couple of other bits.....

Bale is a no go, and we have an interest in Ndombele but there is concern about his in game choices. I'm told the concern is that he takes an awful lot of risks in bad areas, Something that won't show up on a highlights reel.
Ndombele is the closest thing to what we want Dembele to be, he is Dembele light but moves the ball so much faster, as does Lemina who wouldn't be my first choice but did play under Bielsa at OM so would make sense if they go down
 

WiganSpur

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SSC Napoli are expected to demand a minimum of €60m (£52.5m) for Jorginho (26). [Guardian football]
Great player but I think he will go somewhere bigger. Only trouble is that could affect any pursuit of Diawara too unfortunately. If we are to sign him then we have to get in there early before Jorginho is sold.
 

mill

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Great player but I think he will go somewhere bigger. Only trouble is that could affect any pursuit of Diawara too unfortunately. If we are to sign him then we have to get in there early before Jorginho is sold.

Cross Diawara off the list then
 

eddiev14

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Brilliant CB but the the thought of a player that slow in our high line is the stuff of nightmares.

A couple of other bits.....

Bale is a no go, and we have an interest in Ndombele but there is concern about his in game choices. I'm told the concern is that he takes an awful lot of risks in bad areas, Something that won't show up on a highlights reel.

That’s interesting because the one thing I thought when watching his YouTube reel was that he was a bit erratic in style, not totally in control of the ball and certainly less smoother than Dembele (despite the clear similarities).

I can totally see why this would be a concern in a faster paced league. That ball needs to stick to you if you want to keep it, it can’t be 2-3 yards away from you.
 

danielneeds

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I love some of the work Levy has done but it’s time to make a statement in the market and put what makes this club actually exists first - not bricks and mortar but it’s playing squad.

Poch deserves it, the players deserve it and most importantly, the fans deserve it.

Massive attendances this season and the fans have backed the club by taking up those ludicrously high season ticket prices.

Whilst walking on our polished crushed floors is very nice, they would stand in piss to watch a great team and some pots.

Make it happen Daniel and your £ will flow.
I totally understand what you're saying, and I really believe we need a marquee type signing this summer to inject some more belief into the squad for the big moments.

But looking at it from Levy's point of view, it probably makes very little sense. All of good things happening at the club are because he's kept to a set of financial golden rules around how to run it. Buying young, hungry players, rewarding them with incremental contracts. Playing the transfer market, so we turn a profit. All this stuff has left us in a strong position, although it's arguable as to how much it would work without Poch's genius.

And then every time Levy has spent big on players, from Bent and Bentley all the way through to Lamela and Soldado, it's never really worked out. Sanchez is probably the most successful record signing we've ever made since Modric.

I guess you could argue that the game has changed, and we're in a totally different situation this summer. The squad, the stadium, the manager's ambition - it's all there in the melting pot. It's going to be fascinating to see how Levy plays it, especially in a summer in which the World Cup and early closing of the window is sure to spice things up in the market.
 

Japhet

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Our transfer dealings need to fall into the following catagories;

1 Upgrade on what we have. This either involves selling an existing player or demoting them to a back up role which would improve squad depth.

2 Buy back ups who are better than the back ups we currently have. This would then mean selling some squad players. Llorente, Janssen, N'Koudou etc.

3 Selling or loaning players not deemed ready. CCV, Onomah, Oakley Booth etc.

4 Replace players who move on. Alderweireld, Rose, Dembele potentially. In Alderweireld's case, Dier can focus on CB and we spend money in CM.

I also think that a player like Son is much better as an impact sub but not a good enough striker to fill in for Kane. He scores goals from wider positions but isn't suited to the 9 role IMO. We won't pick up a top quality stand in for Kane either. He plays just about every game available and I don't see anyone who's top quality being happy to hang around waiting for opportunities, but we do need a central striker, not a false 9 or converted winger IMO.

I can see one of Trippier/Aurier moving on with KWP stepping up. I think it's likely that we stick with Aurier. We need a progressive CM and a space may appear if Dembele wants his move. I also think we're much better when we play 3 CBs and our pressing becomes much more effective.

We could also really use a really experienced player to get us over the line in big matches. Somebody like Banega would do nicely.
 

WiganSpur

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I totally understand what you're saying, and I really believe we need a marquee type signing this summer to inject some more belief into the squad for the big moments.

But looking at it from Levy's point of view, it probably makes very little sense. All of good things happening at the club are because he's kept to a set of financial golden rules around how to run it. Buying young, hungry players, rewarding them with incremental contracts. Playing the transfer market, so we turn a profit. All this stuff has left us in a strong position, although it's arguable as to how much it would work without Poch's genius.

And then every time Levy has spent big on players, from Bent and Bentley all the way through to Lamela and Soldado, it's never really worked out. Sanchez is probably the most successful record signing we've ever made since Modric.

I guess you could argue that the game has changed, and we're in a totally different situation this summer. The squad, the stadium, the manager's ambition - it's all there in the melting pot. It's going to be fascinating to see how Levy plays it, especially in a summer in which the World Cup and early closing of the window is sure to spice things up in the market.
We've spent big money on players, but were Soldado, Bentley, Bent etc. from the top bracket? I think we've got the ability now to really compete with big clubs in that regard to make our big investments worthwhile. I'd say only Lamela was one where everybody thought was a really big signing in terms of someone that the big boys would be interested in.

Now though I think we've arguably got as much pulling power as Chelsea, Arsenal, Liverpool etc and we can realistically target big names such as Bale, Reus etc.
 

agrdavidsfan

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Brilliant CB but the the thought of a player that slow in our high line is the stuff of nightmares.

A couple of other bits.....

Bale is a no go, and we have an interest in Ndombele but there is concern about his in game choices. I'm told the concern is that he takes an awful lot of risks in bad areas, Something that won't show up on a highlights reel.

You heard anything on Meyer we were linked for what seems ages?
 

danielneeds

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We've spent big money on players, but were Soldado, Bentley, Bent etc. from the top bracket? I think we've got the ability now to really compete with big clubs in that regard to make our big investments worthwhile. I'd say only Lamela was one where everybody thought was a really big signing in terms of someone that the big boys would be interested in.

Now though I think we've arguably got as much pulling power as Chelsea, Arsenal, Liverpool etc and we can realistically target big names such as Bale, Reus etc.
I don't think we can, because those players will all want above £180k at week to sign here. I guess Harry's new contract will tell us alot about what we are willing to pay. We have to make him one of the better paid players in the country, and it will then set a limit, because we aren't going to pay anyone more, or even close to our version of the what the Americans call the "franchise player."
 

daryl hannah

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Our transfer dealings need to fall into the following catagories;

1 Upgrade on what we have. This either involves selling an existing player or demoting them to a back up role which would improve squad depth.

2 Buy back ups who are better than the back ups we currently have. This would then mean selling some squad players. Llorente, Janssen, N'Koudou etc.

3 Selling or loaning players not deemed ready. CCV, Onomah, Oakley Booth etc.

4 Replace players who move on. Alderweireld, Rose, Dembele potentially. In Alderweireld's case, Dier can focus on CB and we spend money in CM.

I also think that a player like Son is much better as an impact sub but not a good enough striker to fill in for Kane. He scores goals from wider positions but isn't suited to the 9 role IMO. We won't pick up a top quality stand in for Kane either. He plays just about every game available and I don't see anyone who's top quality being happy to hang around waiting for opportunities, but we do need a central striker, not a false 9 or converted winger IMO.

I can see one of Trippier/Aurier moving on with KWP stepping up. I think it's likely that we stick with Aurier. We need a progressive CM and a space may appear if Dembele wants his move. I also think we're much better when we play 3 CBs and our pressing becomes much more effective.

We could also really use a really experienced player to get us over the line in big matches. Somebody like Banega would do nicely.
Nice one Japhet. This is almost exactly how I see it with the exception of Kane playing every game. I feel a backup or bench striker who could play on the wing wouldn't have to sit on the bench the whole time. Sub appearances for Kane, cup games, and injury cover would see the candidate get more than enough plaing time. I can see why we're interested in Zaha, especially now he's really turning on the style at Palace in both CF and Wing positions.
 

Bus-Conductor

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Brilliant CB but the the thought of a player that slow in our high line is the stuff of nightmares.

A couple of other bits.....

Bale is a no go, and we have an interest in Ndombele but there is concern about his in game choices. I'm told the concern is that he takes an awful lot of risks in bad areas, Something that won't show up on a highlights reel.

Funny you say that, I said earlier in the season that his passing can get a bit careless at times, but it tended to be in the later stages of games as he gets tired. I hope this doesn't put us off though. Ive watched a lot of this kid this season (15-20 games maybe?) and he's got some rough edges but there is a shit load of potential there for a 20yo and I think what we need in a CM is someone who does take some risk, it needs to be coached and educated but at 20 that's exactly what he'll get, and I don't think it's bad enough to make him worth passing on. And lets be honest, Dier has a careless ball in him, and although Dembele's rarely hit a careless pass in his life (that's almost party of his problem) he does get caught dawdling on the ball at times.

No Player comes perfect and I think as a 6 who is physical, robust and tenacious, he's also got football in him, good technique and transitions well.

I think he improved his decision making as the season went on, which is a good sign that he's responding to coaching and learning on the job.

If we are watching him, I also really hope Aouar hasn't gone unnoticed either, they are almost a complimentary pair.
 

SpartanSpur

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I totally understand what you're saying, and I really believe we need a marquee type signing this summer to inject some more belief into the squad for the big moments.

But looking at it from Levy's point of view, it probably makes very little sense. All of good things happening at the club are because he's kept to a set of financial golden rules around how to run it. Buying young, hungry players, rewarding them with incremental contracts. Playing the transfer market, so we turn a profit. All this stuff has left us in a strong position, although it's arguable as to how much it would work without Poch's genius.

And then every time Levy has spent big on players, from Bent and Bentley all the way through to Lamela and Soldado, it's never really worked out. Sanchez is probably the most successful record signing we've ever made since Modric.

I guess you could argue that the game has changed, and we're in a totally different situation this summer. The squad, the stadium, the manager's ambition - it's all there in the melting pot. It's going to be fascinating to see how Levy plays it, especially in a summer in which the World Cup and early closing of the window is sure to spice things up in the market.

I think you are right, the golden rules that got us to this point may not quite ring true now, our core group of players have probably outgrown that tag. Time to put our big boy pants on this summer and make a statement, doesn't have to be marquee like Bale but it has to be a lot more of a sure thing than our usual speculative work. I think we need some experience but more signings in the likes of Sanchez are also fine, as all big clubs try and sign young players with world class potential.

Sessegnon, Gelson Martins and De Ligt clearly fall in the latter category. Modric or the unlikely return of Bale would bring experience, Kovacic would be a statement. Ndombele, Maddison or Diawara would be a bit more speculative but still very highly rated. Martial, Zaha or Stones if available, (edit) two would be homegrown and all have plenty of PL experience. This is the level we should be acting at now. 4-5 players in, knocking on the door of £200m outlay before sales.
 
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danielneeds

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I think you are right, the golden rules that got us to this point may not quite ring true now, our core group of players have probably outgrown that tag. Time to put our big boy pants on this summer and make a statement, doesn't have to be marquee like Bale but it has to be a lot more of a sure thing than our usual speculative work. I think we need some experience but more signings in the likes of Sanchez are also fine, as all big clubs try and sign young players with world class potential.

Sessegnon, Gelson Martins and De Ligt clearly fall in the latter category. Modric or the unlikely return of Bale would bring experience, Kovacic would be a statement. Ndombele, Maddison or Diawara would be a bit more speculative but still very highly rated. Martial, Zaha or Stones if available would be homegrown and have plenty of PL experience. This is the level we should be acting at now. 4-5 players in, knocking on the door of £200m outlay before sales.
No way will we spend £200m this summer.
 

yankspurs

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I think you are right, the golden rules that got us to this point may not quite ring true now, our core group of players have probably outgrown that tag. Time to put our big boy pants on this summer and make a statement, doesn't have to be marquee like Bale but it has to be a lot more of a sure thing than our usual speculative work. I think we need some experience but more signings in the likes of Sanchez are also fine, as all big clubs try and sign young players with world class potential.

Sessegnon, Gelson Martins and De Ligt clearly fall in the latter category. Modric or the unlikely return of Bale would bring experience, Kovacic would be a statement. Ndombele, Maddison or Diawara would be a bit more speculative but still very highly rated. Martial, Zaha or Stones if available would be homegrown and have plenty of PL experience. This is the level we should be acting at now. 4-5 players in, knocking on the door of £200m outlay before sales.
Martial would not be considered home grown.
 
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