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Match Prediction

  • Spurs Win

    Votes: 69 78.4%
  • Newcastle Win

    Votes: 6 6.8%
  • Score Draw

    Votes: 11 12.5%
  • Goalless Draw

    Votes: 2 2.3%

  • Total voters
    88
  • Poll closed .

fluffybunnyuk

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It was never going to be a game that played to eriksens strengths. Leicester City is a different thing entirely.
 

CoopsieDeadpool

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Jun 8, 2012
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It's rather aggravating to see the knee-jerk, blind-bat bullshit "disagrees" and "funnies" attached to the first post. It's an absolute cast-iron example of people who got all wound up at (probably in part via reading way too much crap on the match thread) about Eriksen's lack of creativity in the first half then seeing only what they were pre-set to see in the second half.

Every single one of our best second-half chances, except for Son's jammy goal, resulted directly from Eriksen's creativity. Llorente's header, Eriksen's two precise touches in the box that were cleared off the line ...and I've missed one that I can't recall, but noted at the time. He also won the ball several times in midfield and pressed/closed down well.

Even in the first half, he was doing all of the basics of his midfield position well - it was just his set-piece delivery and his lack of chance-creation that was badly sub-par.

Too many people get locked into assumptions and then their brains see what isn't there, or don't see what is there.

Eriksen has been playing a bit deeper recently, since we have had the rash of injuries in attack and midfield and particularly when we have Sissoko and and Winks trying to hold the centre. His assistance is needed there more often, because we aren't playing with a dominating, controlling player like Dembélé or a proper holding midfielder like Dier or Wanyama. It puts Eriksen further from the box most of the time and it reduces his opportunities for creative, killer balls.

His set piece delivery has just been bad. He's no excuse there.


Umm. I just didn't feel Eriksen had a great game. o_O

If you ever visit the Eriksen thread, you'll have seen I'm very much constantly defending him & recognise his importance to our team.
 

yankspurs

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Aug 22, 2013
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We arent winning the title
I see some disagree here. If we win the title by some absolute miracle, I’ll donate £100 to SC. If i forget just remind me and it’ll be in after I see the reminder. I hope beyond hope we somehow do it and i’ll be on the next flight over to see the parade but we wont.

I will say I really think we will win it some time under Pochettino if he stays and is backed properly(in fact, I could see at least the double under him in all honesty as I think he is one of the best managers I’ve seen in football on par with Fergie and Pep bar the trophies) but a trophy will not come this season. We might have won a trophy or 2 with some investment but it was not to be. I think every year we are getting closer and closer with the results we are managing to pull out of some matches. Our mentality is getting there. We’ll do it. Just gotta be patient and pray Poch stays. Levy pulled a master stroke hiring him. He now has to manage to keep him.
 
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guy

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May 31, 2007
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Very good ground out win. Touch and go for a while, but always felt we would get a goal.

Moura should have scored at the start, but we managed to get the goal in the end.

Sonny on fire again when Kane is out injured, we'd be screwed without him!
 

Doctor Dinkey

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Jul 6, 2013
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For new members who wouldn't know better.........Just to put this into context, here's todays insights from our resident pessimist





Then

:D

So, while I think Leicester is going to be a tough game and it totally wouldn't surprise me if we dropped points or got beat, I'm not sure pessimistspurs should be claiming any credit for any sort of insight or expertise in his predictions, he makes the same ones every week :D
Yeah but we love him
 

JayB

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Aug 24, 2011
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It's rather aggravating to see the knee-jerk, blind-bat bullshit "disagrees" and "funnies" attached to the first post. It's an absolute cast-iron example of people who got all wound up at (probably in part via reading way too much crap on the match thread) about Eriksen's lack of creativity in the first half then seeing only what they were pre-set to see in the second half.

Every single one of our best second-half chances, except for Son's jammy goal, resulted directly from Eriksen's creativity. Llorente's header, Eriksen's two precise touches in the box that were cleared off the line ...and I've missed one that I can't recall, but noted at the time. He also won the ball several times in midfield and pressed/closed down well.

Even in the first half, he was doing all of the basics of his midfield position well - it was just his set-piece delivery and his lack of chance-creation that was badly sub-par.

Too many people get locked into assumptions and then their brains see what isn't there, or don't see what is there.

Eriksen has been playing a bit deeper recently, since we have had the rash of injuries in attack and midfield and particularly when we have Sissoko and and Winks trying to hold the centre. His assistance is needed there more often, because we aren't playing with a dominating, controlling player like Dembélé or a proper holding midfielder like Dier or Wanyama. It puts Eriksen further from the box most of the time and it reduces his opportunities for creative, killer balls.

His set piece delivery has just been bad. He's no excuse there.
Two balls cleared off the line, set up a sitter, and contributed key passes in the buildup to some of our best chances all within the space of a single half of football, but he was dogshit according to this thread.

It's amazing how the scapegoat mentality can cloud your perception of a player -- once it takes hold it magnifies all of the player's mistakes and minimizes their positive contributions. I'm as guilty of it as anyone, so I'm not throwing stones, but I think it's something we should all try to be more conscious of in match threads.
 

Pistols At Dawn

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Jan 8, 2019
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in all honesty as I think he is one of the best managers I’ve seen in football on par with Fergie and Pep bar the trophies

I couldn't agree more. And I'll go further: Pep Guardiola could NOT do with Spurs what Poch has done. He's only ever managed clubs with unlimited budgets. He'd get about six months into working with Levy and run crying back to Spain.
 

fortworthspur

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Nov 12, 2007
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I think if they had been more positive against us today they wouldn’t of lost.

i think if they'd been more positive we would have won easily. the only reason it took 83 minutes to score was because they kept 9 men behind the ball. they set out to get a point and did well but thats the problem with only defending.
 

spursfan77

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Aug 13, 2005
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i think if they'd been more positive we would have won easily. the only reason it took 83 minutes to score was because they kept 9 men behind the ball. they set out to get a point and did well but thats the problem with only defending.

I guess so. They caused us a couple of problems when they attacked. I wonder what Newcastle are like when they play other teams, I haven’t really watched them recently, surely they aren’t as negative against the other teams in and around them in the league table.
 

Vincent30

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Aug 31, 2012
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That has to be one of Sanchez's best games against a physical dominant brute like Rondon. Previously against similar players and Rondon himself he has always for me 'tried too hard' to be over physical with them and always come out second best.

However, I think today he was superb against Rondon and a mature performance. Hopefully he can find some form following his injury.
 

Vincent30

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Aug 31, 2012
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It's rather aggravating to see the knee-jerk, blind-bat bullshit "disagrees" and "funnies" attached to the first post. It's an absolute cast-iron example of people who got all wound up at (probably in part via reading way too much crap on the match thread) about Eriksen's lack of creativity in the first half then seeing only what they were pre-set to see in the second half.

Every single one of our best second-half chances, except for Son's jammy goal, resulted directly from Eriksen's creativity. Llorente's header, Eriksen's two precise touches in the box that were cleared off the line ...and I've missed one that I can't recall, but noted at the time. He also won the ball several times in midfield and pressed/closed down well.

Even in the first half, he was doing all of the basics of his midfield position well - it was just his set-piece delivery and his lack of chance-creation that was badly sub-par.

Too many people get locked into assumptions and then their brains see what isn't there, or don't see what is there.

Eriksen has been playing a bit deeper recently, since we have had the rash of injuries in attack and midfield and particularly when we have Sissoko and and Winks trying to hold the centre. His assistance is needed there more often, because we aren't playing with a dominating, controlling player like Dembélé or a proper holding midfielder like Dier or Wanyama. It puts Eriksen further from the box most of the time and it reduces his opportunities for creative, killer balls.

His set piece delivery has just been bad. He's no excuse there.

But the frustration with Eriksen is consistency, even his biggest fan couldn't disagree with this. For him to be deemed World Class he should be dictating the last 3 matches but has been so far from that. Lamela in the first half today out classed him easily, with quick feet, directness and some great passing. Erisken was in and out of the game doing very little for the most part, with it passing him by.

You can't say in the first half he was doing all the basics right. This isn't Sissoko or Winks we are talking about, we are apparently talking about one of the best midfielders in the world.... i want more than basics from this guy.

That's why he gets singled out, because we know he has it in him, but you don't get to see it as much as you should and if he expects to go to the Barcelona's / Real Madrid's of this world he would be eaten alive for some of the performances he has had this year.
 

easley91

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Jan 27, 2011
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I guess so. They caused us a couple of problems when they attacked. I wonder what Newcastle are like when they play other teams, I haven’t really watched them recently, surely they aren’t as negative against the other teams in and around them in the league table.
They did have a few guilt edge chances at 0-0. Hit the post and if not for two blocks they'd have taken one in a double chance. They frustrated us, and I think deserved something. If I was a Geordie I'd think that was harsh.

But hey that's football, you win or lose no matter the performance against Tottenham, because we don't draw.
 

Gassin's finest

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May 12, 2010
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Two balls cleared off the line, set up a sitter, and contributed key passes in the buildup to some of our best chances all within the space of a single half of football, but he was dogshit according to this thread.

It's amazing how the scapegoat mentality can cloud your perception of a player -- once it takes hold it magnifies all of the player's mistakes and minimizes their positive contributions. I'm as guilty of it as anyone, so I'm not throwing stones, but I think it's something we should all try to be more conscious of in match threads.
Can we include the times he got back and got in an important block or pressed to win the ball back?

But of course he goes missing and doesn't influence enough. Of course that could be the case if you weren't actually watching it...
 

ardiles

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Nov 24, 2006
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Having watched the match a second time on the screen, i think Eriksen had a good game - working hard offensively as well as doing well in his defensive duties.

Yes, I agree with some posters that he is not playing at his best and I think that’s the reason why some fans think that he’s had a bad game. If we ignore comparing how he is playing currently to how he can play when he’s at his best, then I think he had an overall good game yesterday, though not outstanding.

What I’m a bit disappointed with, is that, with Kane & Dele currently out, I’d expect the two other senior attacking players to step up a gear or two. Sonny has done so but sadly, Eriksen hasn’t yet.

Hopefully we will see the Eriksen of recent old, in the upcoming matches as we need him & Son to lead the front during Kane’s & Dele’s absences.
 

Ionman34

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Jun 1, 2011
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Two balls cleared off the line, set up a sitter, and contributed key passes in the buildup to some of our best chances all within the space of a single half of football, but he was dogshit according to this thread.

It's amazing how the scapegoat mentality can cloud your perception of a player -- once it takes hold it magnifies all of the player's mistakes and minimizes their positive contributions. I'm as guilty of it as anyone, so I'm not throwing stones, but I think it's something we should all try to be more conscious of in match threads.
One thing I noted with Eriksen was the defensive shift he put in. On the rare occasions Newcastle were in our box, there he was putting in some important blocks.

He may not be at his majestic best atm, but his contribution to the overall match is undeniable.
 
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