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allatsea

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Excuse my ignorance but I thought VAR was simply to correct errors of fact ? To me it seems to have taken over the job of the Referee so we now have four people refereeing the match with the most senior being VAR.
 

dondo

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Dele's wasn't a handball by the law of the game.

Unless you think players should all compete for corners like pogo sticks with their arms pinned to their sides

How was Dele’s not and the Man City one against us was
 

nailsy

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They've got to change the way that they look at offsides. Deciding that Firmino is offside because of his armpit is so stupid. If it's that tight that they can't make a quick decision then give the benefit of the doubt to the attacker. Offside was never intended to be about being an inch or two in front of a defender and the technology isn't even that accurate. the whole system is having such a negative influence on the game it's going to put people off going to matches soon.
 

Shadydan

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How was Dele’s not and the Man City one against us was

Rules state if there's a handball in the build up to the goal which benefits the attacking team then it's ruled out, its not the same as for the defending team.
 

spursfan77

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I wanted it but now I just want to go back to having to deal with the ineptitude of the officials on the pitch. All VAR is doing is making everything worse. I knew there would be a period of uncertainty about it but everything is just getting worse rather than better.

Unfortunately its here to stay, I cant see the PL going back on its involvement now
 

bubble07

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But I dont agree with having ref check monitor. The monitors in some of those grounds are ridiculous. The one at Goodison is sitting distance from fans. The ref whilst looking the monitor will have 1000s of fans screaming at him.
 

bubble07

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Atkinson needs to be suspended for the error he made last night. He went on emotion which a ref is not there to do. The VAR should also be suspended for not telling the ref he got it wrong

All that needed to have been done was for us to bring on a sub for Son. Case fuckin closed
 

dondo

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Rules state if there's a handball in the build up to the goal which benefits the attacking team then it's ruled out, its not the same as for the defending team.

The rules are wrong imo, they make it so complicated and confusing
 

spursfan77

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Atkinson needs to be suspended for the error he made last night. He went on emotion which a ref is not there to do. The VAR should also be suspended for not telling the ref he got it wrong

All that needed to have been done was for us to bring on a sub for Son. Case fuckin closed

He got away with giving Chelsea a goal in an FA cup semi final that never crossed the line. He should have been struck off then!
 

Trotter

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Well my view on the big VAR decisions in our game (will be interesting to see Dermots)

Sons penalty shout - not a penalty
Sanchez foul on Richarlison - should have been a penalty
Dele handball - should have been a penalty
Son dismissal - technically correct, personally think yellow card, as this set dangerous precedent. Whether we get away with appeal will depend on composition of the panel
Aurier possible dismissal - not really seen it, so cannot make judgement, but some are saying went studs showing in to ankle
Sanchez possible dismissal - was a foul, but not denial of goal as Richarlison had already kicked ball and we would have got there first
 
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Well my view on the big VAR decisions in our game (will be interesting to see Dermots)

Sons penalty shout - not a penalty
Sanchez foul on Richarlison - should have been a penalty
Dele handball - should have been a penalty
Son dismissal - technically correct, personally think yellow card, as things set dangerous precedent. Whether we get away with appeal will depend on composition of the panel
Aurier possible dismissal - not really seen it, so cannot make judgement, but some are saying went studs showing in to ankle
Sanchez possible dismissal - was a foul, but not denial of goal as Richarlison had already kicked ball and we would have got there first
lol
 

Shadydan

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Well my view on the big VAR decisions in our game (will be interesting to see Dermots)

Sons penalty shout - not a penalty
Sanchez foul on Richarlison - should have been a penalty
Dele handball - should have been a penalty
Son dismissal - technically correct, personally think yellow card, as things set dangerous precedent. Whether we get away with appeal will depend on composition of the panel
Aurier possible dismissal - not really seen it, so cannot make judgement, but some are saying went studs showing in to ankle
Sanchez possible dismissal - was a foul, but not denial of goal as Richarlison had already kicked ball and we would have got there first

Dele handball should have been a pen even though Mina was climbing all over him? Give over.

Also what Sanchez incident with Richarlison?
 

WalkerboyUK

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I haven't got a clue how Dele got away with that handball. The Premier League statement about it being something to do with two players challenging for the ball was bizarre.

It was a strange one. I was fully expecting them to be awarded a penalty for it, and would have been clamouring for one if it had been at the other end of the pitch. He actually starts to bring his arm down, then raises it again.
 

WalkerboyUK

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I wanted it but now I just want to go back to having to deal with the ineptitude of the officials on the pitch. All VAR is doing is making everything worse. I knew there would be a period of uncertainty about it but everything is just getting worse rather than better.

Unfortunately its here to stay, I cant see the PL going back on its involvement now

Carragher said the same yesterday.
VAR was supposed to reduce the discussions over the decisions that were being made by officials.
Instead we've now quadrupled the amount of discussion because:
a) there's still no consistency
b) the rules aren't clear
c) the PL are applying them differently to everyone else

Then factor in that the PL decided to change the threshold midseason...
 

WalkerboyUK

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When he brought him down in the box in the second half.

There were two incidents in the second half.
One in the area, which could/should have been given, but Richarlison went down far too easily, then another in stoppage time, when Sanchez goes to kick the ball, but catches Richarlison. The second incident would probably have been given had it been in the penalty area.
 

Trotter

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There were two incidents in the second half.
One in the area, which could/should have been given, but Richarlison went down far too easily, then another in stoppage time, when Sanchez goes to kick the ball, but catches Richarlison. The second incident would probably have been given had it been in the penalty area.

Have mentioned both above, as both were fouls. The one in the box should have been penalty, and on that incident, unlike most of the others against him, did not think he went down easily, was clearly tripped by swinging Sanchez foot.
Last minute one, again a foul, but didn’t deny goal, hence no Red Card by VAR.
All on MOTD last night thought they should have had 2 pens, and us none, although that is only players views, which I always take with pinch of salt, however on this occasion agree with
 
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