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yido_number1
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Instead of winging I might whinge on here instead. Seems more productive.
Graysonti
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please don’t mate - you’re a bore
Lighty64
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at the time of Sugar selling Abramovic wasn't looking at buying a team
not sure Lewis was the reason we were bought, ENIC had a few clubs and sold them all off to concentrate on us. they were frugal because we were building a stadium. we suffered more in the build up than Arsenal did, but our 1st window being in the stadium we spent. the minute Arsenal moved in a lot of their star players were sold.
the only club in your ambitious clubs that never had a bigger stadium or following than the old WHL is Leicester, and they got lucky. they never spent a fortune to do what they did they just got lucky when everyone you'd expect dipped, and literally played a whole 40 matches the whole season. it might not happen in the near future but they are more likely to be involved in a relegation battle than actually win another trophy.
with FFP now in place and the figure it would cost to buy us, then don't be shocked if any new owners are a lot worse. none of those clubs where purchased for silly money, and also already had their infrastructure in place bar Leicester
to win trophies you also need luck, money or both. with the money being spent in the game when we starting building the stadium, to of spent the money needed to possibly even win just a FA Cup we could now be seriously in debt. what the problem has been is that in the old stadium we couldn't offer silly wages, and our scouts obviously didn't do the work finding players like Vardy or Mahrez. we tried to buy Mane who wanted 130k, no way was he a better player at the time compared to Kane, but to pay him 130k would have messed our wages up big time. we are 635m in debt, how much more would we of been in debt just in hope to win that 1 or 2 trophies that wouldn't even dent the debt the players would have cost.
only Chelsea are in more debt than us
yido_number1
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You said Enic were interested in winning trophies yet are arguing we haven't won trophies because it costs us too much money to do that? Why have we bothered to build a new stadium if it means we aren't going to be able to compete and win things for years due to the debt? What is the point of a football club if it isn't trying to win things? I could handle it under Poch as he looked to be building up a team and training a team to improve and had countless examples of improving players. We've now shown a change in tack with Mourinho who is an instant success kind of manager and we can't even stretch to signing a back up striker which has cost us champions league football?
yido_number1
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You're in an Enic thread yet call anyone that isn't in the happy clapper Levy camp a bore? Isn't the point to debate?
Lighty64
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they are interested in trophies but not in a case of getting into considerable debt to do it. we have gone from a nothing club outside the top 5 for a decade to now getting to semi-finals and finals and playing in the best club tournament in the world. they are not to blame for us losing those games, the players and manager decisions and luck wasn't on our side when it mattered.
we have built a stadium so that when the next Mane is on the market wants 150-200k we can consider it now. we can now afford to spend 60m on a player. we can afford to pay a manager 15m a season (I hate him). we can now consider spending 100+m a season without getting into more debt. if we had stayed in the old stadium and spent silly money we would have never got out of debt without selling our top players. do you honestly believe that the players that came so close would have stayed as long if being paid 100k when they could get 2-3 times that amount elsewhere?
so what back up strikers that would help take us to the next level available in January? fucking hell the richest club in the UK could only get Igalo.
Lighty64
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the weird thing is even if we had 1 or 2 extra players per season that those semi or finals losses would have been different
yido_number1
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We've had no back up striker since Llorente left. We're also slipping backwards now and we have no guarantee of being in the top 4 again based on the teams around us being more ambitious with their playing squads. In 5 years time we might be looking back and all saying what a fluke the time under Poch was.
Shadydan
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Yeah the last few months definitely equates to the 17 or so years ENIC have been in charge of Spurs...
Seriously don't you get bored of this?
Lighty64
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if you watched us pre-season you would have noticed Parrott played, and if we had still Poch at the helm he would have tried him out by now if we had the 2 injuries we now have. we could have had 2 more strikers, it doesn't mean they might not be injured too. you can only have 25 registered players and tough shit if injuries happen
yido_number1
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Literally an apology for every fuck up ENIC make. You'd think we were in the first 5 years of their ownership. They've had 20 years to win something and here we are facing down a finish as low as 8th with one of the most successful managers of the last 15 years.
Maybe I'll install Grammarly
Nah, it's the the same old way.
Lighty64
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1 of the most successful managers took over when we were in the shit
let me ask you a few simple questions
if from 2008 when we got permission for the stadium, had we spent 50-100m more on transfers every season
1, would you be able to guarantee we would have won 2-3
2, if they didn't work would you of been happy to have to sell our top players every season to recover the debt
3, how would you expect us to clear the debts off or do you think a billions worth of debt is ok
since Martin Jol its been pretty much progression . To suggest we spend £100 million every window is not what people were asking for as anybody could see that the lack of investment was catching up with as the team had been going backwards pretty quickly .
What people were asking was last summer was the time to act and as a one off time " dare to do " so to speak and we could be here now with Dybala / Fernandes / Grealish . as I have said before all three believed they were on there way to us and had therir coats on ready to come to us . No one is saying every window spend copious amounts of money .
We as fans could see what was coming although not as bad as it is now .
The chance to cash in on reaching the champions league final was there if the guts or the will or the chance was taken I don't no which .
But someone F....d up big time and in all probability we would not be talking about the style of football Jose is playing but what team Poch would pick v wolves . It should not be "To dare is to do " but more "I wouldnt dare "
What people were asking was last summer was the time to act and as a one off time " dare to do " so to speak and we could be here now with Dybala / Fernandes / Grealish . as I have said before all three believed they were on there way to us and had therir coats on ready to come to us . No one is saying every window spend copious amounts of money .
We as fans could see what was coming although not as bad as it is now .
The chance to cash in on reaching the champions league final was there if the guts or the will or the chance was taken I don't no which .
But someone F....d up big time and in all probability we would not be talking about the style of football Jose is playing but what team Poch would pick v wolves . It should not be "To dare is to do " but more "I wouldnt dare "
spursfan77
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I’d love to know. If they could do it without making the rest of us look spoilt and ungrateful in public that would be great. We could be run like West Ham ffs, now they’re bad owners.
Eighteen Eighty Two
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They're not going anywhere. Why would you buy spurs for £2bn when you could buy Newcastle for £350m? With FFP the days of the oligarch or sheikh have gone as well.
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