Premier League officially postponed until 17th of June
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Maxtremist
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Well it is difficult to completely protect until a vaccine comes in. Sure, if they do any BCD games I'd very much assume they're taking as many precautions as possible...that doesn't completely stop it though so there's still always gonna be a chance someone gets it. Then when someone does, I've not seen much in the way of how the leagues will deal with it.
wadewill
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Some of you are really a bit naive in what you are saying about this.
this virus is around for a long time, either we stay in the lockdown for probably 18-24 months with nothing happening and 100’s and 1,000’s of businesses, including probably 50% of football clubs going under
or we do the best we can and just get on with life and try to make the best of a bad situation
this virus is around for a long time, either we stay in the lockdown for probably 18-24 months with nothing happening and 100’s and 1,000’s of businesses, including probably 50% of football clubs going under
or we do the best we can and just get on with life and try to make the best of a bad situation
The difference is a PL footballers family could sue for hundreds of millions.
Yid-ol
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It's the same for both sides, I don't think anyone is saying not to play football for 18-24 months, just to do it when it's the best timing to do it.
No point in letting them all play if it's pulling resource (ambulance and paramedics) from the hospitals and putting them under pressure or if it will bring on a second wave which will shut everything down again. That would be worse for everyone if that happened.
Wsussexspur
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France getting it right! That what needs to happen here and then start the planning now how they can get the league back in August or September. Starting a fresh next season.
This season should be voided current top 4 get in to Champions league, 5-7 go into Europa League (counting FA cup and league cups Europa spot in that). No team gets relegated. Leeds and WBA get given the parachute payment that would have been given to the teams who would have been relegated. So they don't lose out financially,
Personally more I have thought about it im not to fussed about us missing out on champions league and certainly the Europa League next season. Next season will definitely be the season to miss out if you are going to miss out on being in it. It will be a soulless experience travelling away in Europe playing in empty stadiums which will certainly be the case for the group stage of the competitions and maybe the majority if not all the knock out rounds as can't see fans being present till vaccine is available.
To cover lost games on tv release new packages allowing all games to be broadcast live.
This season should be voided current top 4 get in to Champions league, 5-7 go into Europa League (counting FA cup and league cups Europa spot in that). No team gets relegated. Leeds and WBA get given the parachute payment that would have been given to the teams who would have been relegated. So they don't lose out financially,
Personally more I have thought about it im not to fussed about us missing out on champions league and certainly the Europa League next season. Next season will definitely be the season to miss out if you are going to miss out on being in it. It will be a soulless experience travelling away in Europe playing in empty stadiums which will certainly be the case for the group stage of the competitions and maybe the majority if not all the knock out rounds as can't see fans being present till vaccine is available.
To cover lost games on tv release new packages allowing all games to be broadcast live.
brasil_spur
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Not if you tell players that they don't have to play if they are concerned. They can even consider putting a waiver in place to protect against being sued.
The only way that they could effectively sue anyway would be if there was negligence from the club. Otherwise it's easy to argue that players were aware of the risk and played knowing this. If the club took all reasonable precautions then you wouldn't be able to bring a successful lawsuit.
Also contrary to popular belief it's not that costly to sue someone if you're likely to win, in fact a few letters from a lawyer will get you a deal with the company you are suing in most cases.
In this respect why aren't the healthcare workers who have died in the UK suing the government right now? Answer: because they wouldn't win. Same thing for the footballers.
BehindEnemyLines
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If you void the season, then all results should be void too. I really don't see how you can justify taking the results from part of a season and using that for any credible outturn..........and I think Levy would be at the head of the litigation queue.
BehindEnemyLines
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Also worth noting that there is no way anyu club will get insurance to cover the asset value of their playing staff if the season restarts - would they be prepared to risk the potential loss if a player died? I can't see the FA being willing or able to cover that either.
Wsussexspur
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But then as Uefa said the European spots need then to be decided on sporting merit.. in my mind that means on sporting merit the current top 4 deserve to be Champions league spot. People need to get this fanciful idea out there heads that they will just void this season and reinstate us in to the champions league based on last seasons results. That is not going to happen!
To be honest its looking more and more likely that the argument to have this season voided is going to mute anyway as seems all the noises coming from premier league and government is they want football back in ASAP.
Saoirse
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One option on the table in France which hasn't been talked about much yet is to take the standings from the 19 game mark, when everybody had played each other once. If applied to the Premier League (and assuming that City's ban holds and the FA Cup also cannot reach a conclusion), that would mean:
Liverpool are Champions, and qualify for the UEFA Champions League alongside Leicester City, Chelsea and the Wolverhampton Wanderers
Tottenham Hotspur and Sheffield United qualify for the UEFA Europa League Group Stage, with Manchester United receiving a place in the Second Qualifying Round
Aston Villa, Watford and Norwich are relegated to the Sky Bet Championship
Another on the table is to roll back to the last completed round of matches - in England, this would be Round 28 and would mean:
Liverpool are Champions, and qualify for the UEFA Champions League alongside Leicester City, Chelsea and Manchester United
The Wolverhampton Wanderers and Sheffield United qualify for the UEFA Europa League Group Stage, with Tottenham Hotspur receiving a place in the Second Qualifying Round
AFC Bournemouth, Norwich City and Aston Villa are relegated to the Sky Bet Championship
Saoirse
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In other words, from a purely selfish perspective, we almost certainly want the league to resume. The only methods that would see us reach the Champions League - UEFA Coefficient or Null and Void - are being ruled out nearly everywhere and at the least heavily discouraged by UEFA. Failing to resume the season would see us in the Europa League at best, and quite possibly not in Europe at all (if they used the simple Points Per Game method). If we restart, that becomes the worst-case scenario, with Europa and even Champions League football within our own hands.
And sue who, himself ?
The club is one of 20 equal shareholders who would make a binding vote, there is nobody for him to sue.
People just say sue, sue, sue, as if it is the answer to everything, without thinking
Hercules
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If season is voided as ‘null and void’ you cannot reinvent rules to suit. It means legally tgr season never happened. It is deleted! You then only have one choice, and that is to revisit tgr last active season, and take it from there. Anyhow you justify too 4 etc, you are walking into severe legal trouble. And clubs like ours would definitely seek legal consultation. You then have issues with who you seem to qualify for EL. And it gets more fuzzy. Because now you have EFL suing PL for some form of unfair sporting bias to Leeds and WBA for example.
it is not as simplistic as you think. So if voided, it starts as season started August 2019. That means CL/EL teams represent PL. from a personal POV, I 100% do not want us in any European competition under these very critical circumstances!
BehindEnemyLines
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I don't have any particular opinion as regards EUFA entry as I think it'll be naff next year........however, in terms of league standings I am totally in agreement with you.
Sorry Herc, but that is just total bollocks, and what you want to believe, rather than what will be the case.
What you are saying has 0% chance of happening, neither the Premier Clubs would vote for it, and UEFA wouldn't accept it either.
We will not be in the Champions League next season, unless season restarts and we earn it on the pitch.
What happens in respect of declaring a champion/ promotion and relegation is in the PL/EFL hands, earning a spot in European competition has to be earned based on sporting merit from THIS season.
Hercules
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I have made it totally plain! I do NOT want us in Europe next season! And from a point of my own eutopia, I think we should boycott Europe next season. Listen to Simon Jordan’s take on it-Corporate manslaughter. And that is how I feel about the whole matter.
