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Have you missed football?

Have you missed football?

  • Yes

    Votes: 97 23.3%
  • Yes but not Spurs

    Votes: 83 20.0%
  • No

    Votes: 236 56.7%

  • Total voters
    416

kendoddsdadsdogsdead

Well-Known Member
Aug 29, 2011
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I would give up Spurs long before I'd give up football altogether.

I'll never give up grassroots games, (hopefully) taking my son to practice and games when he's old enough to play for a team, having a kick about with mates, following football as a whole regardless of teams and level and be able to enjoy a match for what it is.

But if Spurs were taken over by Saudis, if Spurs joined a Super League, if the club became so removed from reality or morally reprehensible I would have no problems giving it up. Football has always meant more to me than just my support of one club.

I’m kind of the other way my love for football as a sport has dwindled massively and if Spurs didn’t exist I probably wouldn’t follow the sport at all. Spurs scoring/winning still gives me the biggest high in sport but as a sport in general it’s become pretty dull. Defensive team’s everywhere, same team’s With the biggest spend winning. I feel like I’ve seen it all before and most probably have, its boring and I’ve become numb to it tbh. Even going to my local non league side hasn’t rekindled much, £10-15 for poor quality games just because it’s authentic doesn’t do much for me either.

I’ve been really getting into American Football these last 5 or so years and it’s made me realise our football as a sport is pretty poor. I would of laughed at that thought 10/15/20 years ago as I thought our game was the best sport had to offer but it really isn’t, there are much better out there imo.
 

Ledley's Right Foot

Well-Known Member
Jun 18, 2012
338
743
There are much more important things going on in the world and my heart goes out to all those suffering right now, both close to home and around the world. So this post feels a tad silly.

But I am not ashamed to say: I miss football. I miss spurs. I was loving the drama of this season - the good (berjwin scoring, beating city!), the bad (how the team fell apart and we lost the greatest manager of my life time) and the ugly (appointing a manager I loved to hate and now loving the fact he is here - I feel dirty but I don't care, I want spurs to do well).

I want the restart to be safe, I'd feel shitty if it wasn't and probably wouldn't engage. but we have so many mini dramas unfolding at the club, and so many talented players I believe in...so many subplots around new tactics, mourinho making his mark, Harry coming back, tanganga developing, sessegnon developing, just so many stories I was invested in. I can't wait to see it all start up once more. Give me the highs, the lows and all the insanity that goes with supporting spurs. I mean, I'm even dreaming that we can win the league next year. Lockdown does strange things to the mind.

Spurs are pure entertainment for me, better than any film or netflix series and I miss them. I miss them a lot.
 

Marty

Audere est farce
Mar 10, 2005
40,176
63,903
I’m kind of the other way my love for football as a sport has dwindled massively and if Spurs didn’t exist I probably wouldn’t follow the sport at all. Spurs scoring/winning still gives me the biggest high in sport but as a sport in general it’s become pretty dull. Defensive team’s everywhere, same team’s With the biggest spend winning. I feel like I’ve seen it all before and most probably have, its boring and I’ve become numb to it tbh. Even going to my local non league side hasn’t rekindled much, £10-15 for poor quality games just because it’s authentic doesn’t do much for me either.

I’ve been really getting into American Football these last 5 or so years and it’s made me realise our football as a sport is pretty poor. I would of laughed at that thought 10/15/20 years ago as I thought our game was the best sport had to offer but it really isn’t, there are much better out there imo.
Agree with the first paragraph, could not disagree more with the second as the only sport I find more boring than handegg is baseball. Yankeeball is fine for short highlights clips but watching a full game is a complete snorefest. In other words it's the perfect sport for the social media attention span age.
 

shelfmonkey

Weird is different, different is interesting.
Mar 21, 2007
6,690
8,040
Not missed it at all. Couldn't really give a shit if it never came back, well not in the form when it was halted. I have no respect anymore for players, the PFA are a disgrace, Gordon Taylor should hang himself, there's too much money in the game, players are too self important, in short the forced postponement of the game has made see how utterly vacuous it is!!!! RIP football.
 

Yiddo100

Well-Known Member
Jan 16, 2019
9,918
52,111
Not missed it at all. Couldn't really give a shit if it never came back, well not in the form when it was halted. I have no respect anymore for players, the PFA are a disgrace, Gordon Taylor should hang himself, there's too much money in the game, players are too self important, in short the forced postponement of the game has made see how utterly vacuous it is!!!! RIP football.
What the fuck?
 

nailsy

SC Supporter
Jul 24, 2005
30,536
46,630
The number of people watching the game on TV is going to plummet. The game just isn't the same when it's played behind closed doors - we've seen that with England games in the past. Add in that many people won't now be able to afford a luxury like Sky/BT Sport and the viewing figures, or the legal ones at least, will fall dramatically.
 

Gassin's finest

C'est diabolique
May 12, 2010
37,607
88,459
The number of people watching the game on TV is going to plummet. The game just isn't the same when it's played behind closed doors - we've seen that with England games in the past. Add in that many people won't now be able to afford a luxury like Sky/BT Sport and the viewing figures, or the legal ones at least, will fall dramatically.
The numbers suggest otherwise I'd say:

Unless your only correlation with football is Spurs (or the team you support), we're desperate for some football.
 

nailsy

SC Supporter
Jul 24, 2005
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The numbers suggest otherwise I'd say:

Unless your only correlation with football is Spurs (or the team you support), we're desperate for some football.

I'd expect the numbers to be high the first few weeks, possibly even until the end of the season, but what happens after that? Are people going to want to pay for a full season of behind closed doors games if that's what we're facing next season?
 

Gassin's finest

C'est diabolique
May 12, 2010
37,607
88,459
I'd expect the numbers to be high the first few weeks, possibly even until the end of the season, but what happens after that? Are people going to want to pay for a full season of behind closed doors games if that's what we're facing next season?
I think we'll be surprised how many tbh. Football is football.
 

Styopa

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Jan 19, 2014
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I'd expect the numbers to be high the first few weeks, possibly even until the end of the season, but what happens after that? Are people going to want to pay for a full season of behind closed doors games if that's what we're facing next season?

My own feeling is that whilst there may be a loud, disenchanted minority who will not come back, most fans are looking to forward to a return of the pure escapism and entertainment that football brings. A bit like returning to restaurants and pubs, people know that the situation they will be returning to will be different from the one they left. They might be wary about returning, they might not be willing to spend the same amount of money or time that they were spending before lockdown. But ultimately I think most fans will be pleased to have something they can watch, follow and take an interest in, even if the product itself is compromised by having to play behind closed doors. I think It will be a case of "better than the alternative which is nothing" for most fans.
 

nailsy

SC Supporter
Jul 24, 2005
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I think we'll be surprised how many tbh. Football is football.

My own feeling is that whilst there may be a loud, disenchanted minority who will not come back, most fans are looking to forward to a return of the pure escapism and entertainment that football brings. A bit like returning to restaurants and pubs, people know that the situation they will be returning to will be different from the one they left. They might be wary about returning, they might not be willing to spend the same amount of money or time that they were spending before lockdown. But ultimately I think most fans will be pleased to have something they can watch, follow and take an interest in, even if the product itself is compromised by having to play behind closed doors. I think It will be a case of "better than the alternative which is nothing" for most fans.

You may well be right. Thinking about it if all football in this country is behind closed doors next season then you're going to have all those season ticket holders at home with extra cash in their pockets ?. They might still need to bring the subscription price down, but demand could still be there.
 

Ledley's Right Foot

Well-Known Member
Jun 18, 2012
338
743
I'd expect the numbers to be high the first few weeks, possibly even until the end of the season, but what happens after that? Are people going to want to pay for a full season of behind closed doors games if that's what we're facing next season?

TV companies will be working on that, finding ways to make it more interesting to view. A situation that is ripe for innovation in how it's broadcast. I expect a few facepalm moments and probably some stuff that will stick.
 

Ledley's Right Foot

Well-Known Member
Jun 18, 2012
338
743
You may well be right. Thinking about it if all football in this country is behind closed doors next season then you're going to have all those season ticket holders at home with extra cash in their pockets ?. They might still need to bring the subscription price down, but demand could still be there.

There's also an interesting side effect to all this. There's a theory in psychology that people who are great at something perform better in front of crowds, people not so good perform worse. With the mental side of the game so important, the lack of crowds will likely level the playing field a touch. Those players with talent who can choke at a difficult away game will perform much better, those that need the crowd to perform at their best, much worse. Could lead to some really unexpected results. The relegation battle and the battle for the top 4 could really open up.

Edit: still can't quite believe it's all going to start up again soon though...it doesn't feel right yet. Too much at stake health wise.
 

Timberwolf

Well-Known Member
Jan 17, 2008
10,328
50,217
I’m kind of the other way my love for football as a sport has dwindled massively and if Spurs didn’t exist I probably wouldn’t follow the sport at all. Spurs scoring/winning still gives me the biggest high in sport but as a sport in general it’s become pretty dull. Defensive team’s everywhere, same team’s With the biggest spend winning. I feel like I’ve seen it all before and most probably have, its boring and I’ve become numb to it tbh. Even going to my local non league side hasn’t rekindled much, £10-15 for poor quality games just because it’s authentic doesn’t do much for me either.

I’ve been really getting into American Football these last 5 or so years and it’s made me realise our football as a sport is pretty poor. I would of laughed at that thought 10/15/20 years ago as I thought our game was the best sport had to offer but it really isn’t, there are much better out there imo.
I know what you mean. While part of me wants to claim I'm some absolute football purist, if I'm totally honest with myself it's supporting Spurs that keeps me enthralled.

Sure, I like football - I'll watch the odd game as a neutral and enjoy the brilliance of De Bruyne or whoever. I love the international tournaments and get really excited for them. But were it not for Spurs I probably wouldn't watch a game most weekends unless I was bored or out with mates. Over time football would fade into the background of my life and I'd stop keeping up.

It's following a team, watching them evolve and grow, feeling the pain of defeat and, in turn, appreciating the elation of victory: that's what I truly love about football. Watching Spurs win the League Cup against Chelsea, the Crouch goal against Man City, the Lucas hat trick, England winning the penalty shoot out against Colombia - those were some of the most uniquely enjoyable moments of my life. Not saying Spurs is everything, but what else makes you jump up and down, scream like a maniac and hug strangers except being a fan of a team...

(Ok, there's ecstasy but that's about it.)

Must be weird being a neutral.
 

Gassin's finest

C'est diabolique
May 12, 2010
37,607
88,459
You may well be right. Thinking about it if all football in this country is behind closed doors next season then you're going to have all those season ticket holders at home with extra cash in their pockets ?. They might still need to bring the subscription price down, but demand could still be there.
TV companies will be working on that, finding ways to make it more interesting to view. A situation that is ripe for innovation in how it's broadcast. I expect a few facepalm moments and probably some stuff that will stick.
You look at how BT Sport broadcast all the matches at the same time last week, and also the Amazon showcase last December... and I think that's what might be the biggest change out of all this. The end of the 3pm KO embargo.
 

nailsy

SC Supporter
Jul 24, 2005
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I know what you mean. While part of me wants to claim I'm some absolute football purist, if I'm totally honest with myself it's supporting Spurs that keeps me enthralled.

Sure, I like football - I'll watch the odd game as a neutral and enjoy the brilliance of De Bruyne or whoever. I love the international tournaments and get really excited for them. But were it not for Spurs I probably wouldn't watch a game most weekends unless I was bored or out with mates. Over time football would fade into the background of my life and I'd stop keeping up.

It's following a team, watching them evolve and grow, feeling the pain of defeat and, in turn, appreciating the elation of victory: that's what I truly love about football. Watching Spurs win the League Cup against Chelsea, the Crouch goal against Man City, the Lucas hat trick, England winning the penalty shoot out against Colombia - those were some of the most uniquely enjoyable moments of my life. Not saying Spurs is everything, but what else makes you jump up and down, scream like a maniac and hug strangers except being a fan of a team...

(Ok, there's ecstasy but that's about it.)

Must be weird being a neutral.

It's the bit about jumping up and down like a maniac when we score that I wonder about. I'm fine doing it when I can see thousands of other fans on TV doing it at the same time, but I wonder if people will start to feel self conscious about it when it's an empty stadium and it's just you jumping around on your own?
 

daryl

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Jan 30, 2012
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There's also an interesting side effect to all this. There's a theory in psychology that people who are great at something perform better in front of crowds, people not so good perform worse. With the mental side of the game so important, the lack of crowds will likely level the playing field a touch. Those players with talent who can choke at a difficult away game will perform much better, those that need the crowd to perform at their best, much worse. Could lead to some really unexpected results. The relegation battle and the battle for the top 4 could really open up.

Edit: still can't quite believe it's all going to start up again soon though...it doesn't feel right yet. Too much at stake health wise.
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I’m kind of the other way my love for football as a sport has dwindled massively and if Spurs didn’t exist I probably wouldn’t follow the sport at all. Spurs scoring/winning still gives me the biggest high in sport but as a sport in general it’s become pretty dull. Defensive team’s everywhere, same team’s With the biggest spend winning. I feel like I’ve seen it all before and most probably have, its boring and I’ve become numb to it tbh. Even going to my local non league side hasn’t rekindled much, £10-15 for poor quality games just because it’s authentic doesn’t do much for me either.

I’ve been really getting into American Football these last 5 or so years and it’s made me realise our football as a sport is pretty poor. I would of laughed at that thought 10/15/20 years ago as I thought our game was the best sport had to offer but it really isn’t, there are much better out there imo.

Hi, firstly I respect your opinion, but I must be seriously missing something guys,,

American football in my eyes is the biggest load of stop start crap that I’ve ever had the displeasure of setting my eyes on,, How you can call football dull and claim that American football is a better sport, is just completely beyond me, stop start, stop start, timeout,,,,,,,,, What on earth is that,
To me,,,,,,,,thats dull
 

kendoddsdadsdogsdead

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Aug 29, 2011
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I think that’s the go to opinion of most people, me included before i actually put the time in. The more you watch and understand, the better it gets. It’s stop start sure but it doesn’t drag at least when you watch on tv, when you get analysis and red zone. Every play is watchable and has a more direct influence on the result than a decent passage of play in football might. In football the ball is out of play for at least a 1/3 of the game. Quite a few games are poor viewing imo. Maybe I’ve just played and seen to much football over the years and it’s become a bit repetitive.

Millions of people in this country love test cricket which is a hell of a lot more stop start and played over 5 days but I think because we have grown up with the sport and it’s in our culture we understand the intricacies and flow of the game we can appreciate it more.
 

HildoSpur

Likes Erik Lamela, deal with it.
Oct 1, 2005
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I havent thought about football at all really since it stopped but I know that once it starts up again I'll get right back into it.
 
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