Jose Mourinho

CornerPinDreamer · Jul 2, 2020

al_pacino said:
The issue with that is the team was put together with him in charge. Along with people higher up.

I'm sorry Poch is gone but some of the games during his last 12-18 months make this performance look like 1970 Brazil (obvious exaggeration is obvious).

Mostly these same players were made to look like world class stars when they stuck to Poch's system (and when Poch actually adapted tactics)

VancouverSpur · Jul 2, 2020

The lack of creativity today was Peak Mourinho. Going to have to get used to it as this is his style of football....refreshed approach to the game my arse!!

Dougal · Jul 2, 2020

al_pacino said:
The issue with that is the team was put together with him in charge. Along with people higher up.

I'm sorry Poch is gone but some of the games during his last 12-18 months make this performance look like 1970 Brazil (obvious exaggeration is obvious).

Yes, he put them together, got the best out of them and when there was no more to get out of them he was the one shoved. Madness. I sound like a stuck record over the last year but I haven’t seen anything to change my mind.

spursfan77 · Jul 2, 2020

CornerPinDreamer said:
Mostly these same players were made to look like world class stars when they stuck to Poch's system (and when Poch actually adapted tactics)

But they were run into the ground, stopped listening to him were not replaced.

Deleted member 27995 · Jul 2, 2020

Rout-Ledge said:
It's pure Jose spin. He came in saying the squad was good enough. Now (8 months later) the line is 'now i know my players have a shit mentality'. It's nothing more or less than Jose attempting to shift the blame and manage the narrative. The narrative is all he seems interested in managing these days tbh.

If the mentality was there we'd have put in a shift - how many of our players put in a shift?

Hate on Mourinho all you want, everyone has the right, but don't let the players get away with this shit again they did for Poch and one or two of them are doing for Mourinho as well.

C0YS · Jul 2, 2020

Dougal said:
Sheffield United got fucked by VAR at the Lane and fought for a result. I’m sick of our lot moaning and capitulating because of VAR. If that’s what separates us from the likes of the Blades them fair fucking play to them. Fully deserved victory today.

That's the thing. I think our players did feel very hard done by it. But Sheffield have a superb mentality and that's why they are ahead of teams way better than them. We need to form that mentality, and Jose is completely right to call that out.

Having said that, we should be angry about VAR crap, because the implementation of VAR is a disaster and is creating illogical decisions. It did hurt us bad today, even if we won. Sheffield complained hard about the decision when we played them, so did West Ham last night. But in the game we need to react better, because I think Jose did see a lot of annoyed angry heads and the mentality needed. What we needed to be was, sure, angry but also we'll stuff them regardless. I didn't see that in the second half at all.

Spurs2020 · Jul 2, 2020

never wanted him.. sack him and find someone else.. idc who just get Mourinho out of the club

King of Otters · Jul 2, 2020

Dougal said:
Like the one we have?

mattspur1 · Jul 2, 2020

C0YS said:
Absolutely, and these are quite good and useful players. We need a more balanced team not sell off players who might not be world class but are actually very useful.

We can't turn back time, but the market will still be relatively balanced. And we could pick up good value in more vulnerable European teams.

I'm not sure the point you are making. Stop quoting precovid. The players are worth what they are worth, not much and definitely not enough to rebuild the team.

Trix · Jul 2, 2020

Rout-Ledge said:
Fair enough. I don't see this magicking into something good though.

Maybe not but he's not had a fair crack so far.

I'll be more than jumping on the band wagon if it's still like this 10 games into next season, but until then he deserves at least a bit of leeway.

Phomesy · Jul 2, 2020

Fair dues to Mou - his BBC interview was not holding back on the players mentality.

Problem is it's his job to sort that shit out.

WiganSpur · Jul 2, 2020

danielneeds said:
It needs decisive leadership from Levy, a plan. Is he gonna back Jose? Maybe we have to sell Kane and rebuild entirely? I dunno really. I do know that Jose was never the answer for us.

Regardless of what you think of Mourinho, if we completely collapse now and miss out on Europe altogether then I wouldn't put it past Levy to pull the trigger. He might think it would take some heat off him and distract from the fundamental issue.

SpursD22 · Jul 2, 2020

DiVaio said:
Every manager would struggle coming in middle of the season. Guardiola needed time, Klopp in his first 20PL games had 9W 5D 6L.. Same as Mourinho, he can still win the league.

Hahahhahaha thank you, I needed this laugh

SpursD22 · Jul 2, 2020

Dougal said:
There’s such a thing as ‘new manager bounce’. Mourinho won’t win the league unless someone buys it for him. That won’t be Levy.

Even then he will fail, spend over 400M at United only to get schooled by Conte & Pep

bat-chain · Jul 2, 2020

We actually can’t change manager it would be absurd. We've paid so much for this bed we have to just lay in it. At least for the next year or two.

We have to just hope something changes.

Spurs_Bear · Jul 2, 2020

The thing puzzling me in all this...what the fuck is Sacramento’s role? It’s like when we appointed Ramos and pretended that Gus Poyet was going to be the most amazing assistant. AVB and Steffen Freund. Sacramento can’t be the brightest spark in football like some claim if he’s supporting this 6 year out of date shite that we are serving up can he?

I’m certain I always said I needed Jose to be judged after a pre season, but we’ve kind of had that with the Covid, and we’re even worse than we were before hand with a fully fit squad.

kaz Hirai · Jul 2, 2020

King of Otters said:
Need a proven winner mate.

I know crazy poch hasn't won any trophies in his 10 year managerial career

Espanol, Southampton, Tottenham, the giants of the game! Those clubs always win stuff too, What a fackin loser

al_pacino · Jul 2, 2020

Dougal said:
Yes, he put them together, got the best out of them and when there was no more to get out of them he was the one shoved. Madness. I sound like a stuck record over the last year but I haven’t seen anything to change my mind.

It's always the way.

The club has sleep walked into this situation. Remember when Poch joined and Spurs were the youngest team in the league by quite a margin, now what is it?

The club/team has not been that well run for a couple of seasons and this is why we are where we are.

ILS · Jul 2, 2020

I was okay with Jose's appointment and I think he knows where improvement is required in this team but unfortunately it is going to cost a lot of money.

That is where the problem lies as I don't see him improving the team to level he wants without it whatever he states in the press.

CornerPinDreamer · Jul 2, 2020

SpursD22 said:
Even then he will fail, spend over 400M at United only to get schooled by Conte & Pep

400m does not Levy

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