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I’ll find the article and postWhat infrastructure of Liverpool??
I’ll find the article and postWhat infrastructure of Liverpool??
Can you tell me which players? Is it the world-cup winning captain who stuck with us through other dark times when he so clearly could have left? Is it our soon to be record goalscorer, who came up through the club? The Belgians who'be been the best defenders we've had in the PL. The South Korean who's played with a smile on his face since joining?These players are poison.
Absolutely- the players can’t control player recruitment or the sale of unneeded players, or a competent scouting system, or budgets, or the selling of the naming rights, or the lack of a competent DoF, or a chairman who allowed the club to not buy a single player for two transfer windows, or the failure to replace sold players with replacements at least equal in qualityCan you tell me which players? Is it the world-cup winning captain who stuck with us through other dark times when he so clearly could have left? Is it our soon to be record goalscorer, who came up through the club? The Belgians who'be been the best defenders we've had in the PL. The South Korean who's played with a smile on his face since joining?
The players aren't the problem. Aurier apart, I can't see anyone who's ever been anything but professional. It's the lack of a vision of plan that's let them down, the drifting into mediocrity that was allowed to happen by the board when we were in a position of strenght.
Can you tell me which players? Is it the world-cup winning captain who stuck with us through other dark times when he so clearly could have left? Is it our soon to be record goalscorer, who came up through the club? The Belgians who'be been the best defenders we've had in the PL. The South Korean who's played with a smile on his face since joining?
The players aren't the problem. Aurier apart, I can't see anyone who's ever been anything but professional. It's the lack of a vision of plan that's let them down, the drifting into mediocrity that was allowed to happen by the board when we were in a position of strenght.
Two managers same playing squad (bar the two winter window purchases) and they don't factor into this?Can you tell me which players? Is it the world-cup winning captain who stuck with us through other dark times when he so clearly could have left? Is it our soon to be record goalscorer, who came up through the club? The Belgians who'be been the best defenders we've had in the PL. The South Korean who's played with a smile on his face since joining?
The players aren't the problem. Aurier apart, I can't see anyone who's ever been anything but professional. It's the lack of a vision of plan that's let them down, the drifting into mediocrity that was allowed to happen by the board when we were in a position of strenght.
Privately Mourinho has preached evolution not revolution in his first season, and he is said to be conscious of the club’s attacking traditions. This would explain his often uncharacteristically offensive line-ups, including at Bramall Lane on Thursday.
Edit Won’t bother thenI’ll find the article and post
even tho you ‘wtf’d’ here’s the article https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...l&CMP=GTUK_email&utm_campaign=GuardianTodayUKI’ll find the article and post
Fully agree. In fact, we have been fortunate not to have been sucked into the outskirts of the relegation battle this season.I've been thinking a lot about next season, and it was something that crossed my mind when Poch was in charge and that is do we face a real prospect of fighting in the lower half of the table next season? I mean, it is unlikely we are going to spend anything significant in the summer and looking at even the top ten in the league now I only see Sheffield Utd and Burnley being worse than us, though that's me being positive. If the likes of Everton, Newcastle & Southampton improve just a little next season, then I could easily see us worse than just midtable and who knows just how good the teams coming up from the Championship will be in the prem, if Sheff Utd is anything to go by.
It's looking like so many players are finished at the club, and imo we need an unprecedented overhaul of players that are either past their best by some way or are mediocre. I have a feeling that if we are to try and challenge for a European place next season then we seriously need a swathe of new players and I honestly don't feel Levy has the ability to get this club what it so desperately needs. I'm gonna go out on a limb and say we'll finish outside the top 10 next season. Liverpool, City, Chelsea, Utd, Leicester, and even Wolves are ahead of us and I could easily see an Arsenal resurgence under Arteta next season.
I could have said all of the above in two words really - we're fucked.
While I agree we have been far too soft in the media for ages it amazes me that players no longer chew each other out.I love the fact that Jose came out and slated the players. That’s one thing that poch never did, tell the players and make them know they were doing shit at times. Where as Jose will literally tell them straight up which is what we need at the moment. We’ve sat back for too long, being a nice club and it’s time for Jose to grab levy and tell him straight up what he wants.
Not saying poch was a bad manager because he wasn’t at all, he did a great job with the resources that he had. For me It’s just he was so friendly that the players could have a bad game and he would just say ‘we played alright, just needed to be more clinical, we will be stronger next times and they wouldn’t get exposed at all.
Hopefully next season we can get some magic from the special one
Things change very quickly in football. We were in a CL Final last season.I've been thinking a lot about next season, and it was something that crossed my mind when Poch was in charge and that is do we face a real prospect of fighting in the lower half of the table next season? I mean, it is unlikely we are going to spend anything significant in the summer and looking at even the top ten in the league now I only see Sheffield Utd and Burnley being worse than us, though that's me being positive. If the likes of Everton, Newcastle & Southampton improve just a little next season, then I could easily see us worse than just midtable and who knows just how good the teams coming up from the Championship will be in the prem, if Sheff Utd is anything to go by.
It's looking like so many players are finished at the club, and imo we need an unprecedented overhaul of players that are either past their best by some way or are mediocre. I have a feeling that if we are to try and challenge for a European place next season then we seriously need a swathe of new players and I honestly don't feel Levy has the ability to get this club what it so desperately needs. I'm gonna go out on a limb and say we'll finish outside the top 10 next season. Liverpool, City, Chelsea, Utd, Leicester, and even Wolves are ahead of us and I could easily see an Arsenal resurgence under Arteta next season.
I could have said all of the above in two words really - we're fucked.
I actually think the problems at Spurs are so much more than any one thing and whilst Levy is at the top of those problems, there are a few more problems that stem off the back of Levy imo. You only need to read through the various match day threads or this thread and the ENIC thread.I think that the real problem is that we have a lot of players not wanted or needed and until they are moved on we do not have squad spaces.
But Levy always wants level one prices for level two and three players . Until he gets real and realises the reason we want rid of these players is they are not of the quality we need and therefore you should not ask the high end transfer price .
Like I say we have maybe 5 or 6 players that need moving on and until we do we are in position that we cannot buy players because there is no place for them . It would be better to sell for instance 6 players for approx 10mill£ each and then buy two 30mill£ players and then fill the squad spaces with promising youth players . But Levy being Levy will ask top dollar for our cast offs meaning they will not be sold and therefore no space in a poor squad for new players , I hope what I have said makes sense even if you do not agree .
Seriously, do you really think that? Would you bet money that we won't finish in top10 next season?I've been thinking a lot about next season, and it was something that crossed my mind when Poch was in charge and that is do we face a real prospect of fighting in the lower half of the table next season? I mean, it is unlikely we are going to spend anything significant in the summer and looking at even the top ten in the league now I only see Sheffield Utd and Burnley being worse than us, though that's me being positive. If the likes of Everton, Newcastle & Southampton improve just a little next season, then I could easily see us worse than just midtable and who knows just how good the teams coming up from the Championship will be in the prem, if Sheff Utd is anything to go by.
It's looking like so many players are finished at the club, and imo we need an unprecedented overhaul of players that are either past their best by some way or are mediocre. I have a feeling that if we are to try and challenge for a European place next season then we seriously need a swathe of new players and I honestly don't feel Levy has the ability to get this club what it so desperately needs. I'm gonna go out on a limb and say we'll finish outside the top 10 next season. Liverpool, City, Chelsea, Utd, Leicester, and even Wolves are ahead of us and I could easily see an Arsenal resurgence under Arteta next season.
I could have said all of the above in two words really - we're fucked.
Yeah that was a papering over the cracks season if ever there was one and the CL final run-up was showered with luck and one player wonder moments - if only we could get those performances out of Moura more often eh?Things change very quickly in football. We were in a CL Final last season.
We can get better just as quickly as the wheels can fall off.
Dont start worrying about things that haven't happened yet.
Yep, I seriously would. Right now we are going backward and not forward. The caveat to that is, that is based on what I think we are like now, and if we went into next season with what we have now, then I'll stand by my opinion that we'll finish outside the top 10 - of course, that could change, so I'm open-minded right now based on what we do in the transfer market, however one doesn't need a crystal ball to know that the club will spout that great line of "we tried, but x, y or z demanded too much" or words to that effect.Seriously, do you really think that? Would you bet money that we won't finish in top10 next season?
Even Leicester currently aren’t better than us and they are very dependent on Ndidi and Vardy.Yep, I seriously would. Right now we are going backward and not forward. The caveat to that is, that is based on what I think we are like now, and if we went into next season with what we have now, then I'll stand by my opinion that we'll finish outside the top 10 - of course, that could change, so I'm open-minded right now based on what we do in the transfer market, however one doesn't need a crystal ball to know that the club will spout that great line of "we tried, but x, y or z demanded too much" or words to that effect.