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wrd

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Bit of a cheap shot. Joey's posts never read like someone whose views come from computer games.

He's going from thread to thread complaining if we're ever linked to english players, rambling in the ndombele thread that we should sell him for Mark Noble just because we were linked to Callum Wilson as a 5th choice striker.
 

dontcallme

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He's going from thread to thread complaining if we're ever linked to english players, rambling in the ndombele thread that we should sell him for Mark Noble just because we were linked to Callum Wilson as a 5th choice striker.
So because he thinks there are better players abroad or better value for money his views must come from computer games?

Joey used to post a lot a few years ago and from memory he watches a lot of French football.
 

C0YS

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Whereas I agree with your point, I could also see the logic in bringing in someone like Fraser on a free. Basically enabling us to sell eg Lamela to raise funds for other positions. Not sure there would be too many takers for Coco though.
Coco has a lot of admirers in Serie A, though I doubt he would command a big fee with his injury history. However, I don't see why we would get rid, he is a useful player, better than Frazer, and would raise less funds then selling someone like Foyth. I don't agree that you have t have good 'stats' to be a useful attacking player.

It's such a modern phenomenon, I don't think anyone had a go at, say, McManaman at Madrid or Liverpool for not scoring enough goals. He creates a good balance for the team and is a very useful player. Pretty much every major team has a Lamela type.
 

emiley heskey

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Coco has a lot of admirers in Serie A, though I doubt he would command a big fee with his injury history. However, I don't see why we would get rid, he is a useful player, better than Frazer, and would raise less funds then selling someone like Foyth. I don't agree that you have t have good 'stats' to be a useful attacking player.

It's such a modern phenomenon, I don't think anyone had a go at, say, McManaman at Madrid or Liverpool for not scoring enough goals. He creates a good balance for the team and is a very useful player. Pretty much every major team has a Lamela type.

On the ball, fraser is better than lamela
 

wrd

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So because he thinks there are better players abroad or better value for money his views must come from computer games?

Joey used to post a lot a few years ago and from memory he watches a lot of French football.

And how has the french football scene treated us in recent years? There's a snobbery towards british talent on this forum and admittedly my computer games comment was facetious but that doesn't change my feeling towards it being tiresome to read the same complaints about being linked with english players at low cut prices for squad and development roles with no alternatives named. People are quick to praise foreign talents off the back of a good youtube video and maybe there is talent elsewhere but we shouldn't just dismiss english talent as we've seen teams recently benefit from picking up talent from relegated/championship teams.
 

dontcallme

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And how has the french football scene treated us in recent years? There's a snobbery towards british talent on this forum and admittedly my computer games comment was facetious but that doesn't change my feeling towards it being tiresome to read the same complaints about being linked with english players at low cut prices for squad and development roles with no alternatives named. People are quick to praise foreign talents off the back of a good youtube video and maybe there is talent elsewhere but we shouldn't just dismiss english talent as we've seen teams recently benefit from picking up talent from relegated/championship teams.
All fair points. Why not disagree with someone like that without resorting to making out their view in based on computer games?
 

wrd

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All fair points. Why not disagree with someone like that without resorting to making out their view in based on computer games?

I've already admitted it was facetious and I was wrong to do that and it was a reaction to seeing the same poster moaning about English players in 3/4 different threads.
 

yankspurs

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There is no reason whatsoever to think Brooks is injury prone. He has had 2 injuries in his career thus far. Both times the ankle, last year it kept him out 5 games. Nothing out of the normal, something you expect during the course of a season.

This year he had a major injury and missed a year of football. But, there is no indication that this will flare up again or anything like that. Having a long term injury does not mean they are injury prone.

The worry is if he is able to refind the form he had last season. He has shown a lot of promise since coming back, but it is always a worry. For a good price there are more upsides than downsides.
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Multiple ankle injuries is not a good thing. Just ask Kane
 

DeanoD

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There seems to be so many exciting young HG talents in the creative/attacking midfield positions who could potentially be ‘gettable’ in this window (Grealish/Eze/Brooks/Cantwell...)

Although they all bring different qualities, I would be more than satisfied with any of them as I feel we are crying out for someone to fill the Eriksen void and take the onus off GLC to dictate our attacking opportunities.

Such a shame that they all seem ‘gettable’ in a window where we clearly have other more pressing issues to spend whatever tight budget we have. Can’t see us spending money on this area unless we manage to make a few quid on sales, and I just don’t think we have many valuable, expendable assets right now. Hope I’m wrong...
 

Hoopspur

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Predominantly (strongly) left footed, unlike Lamela who is so left footed I’m surprised he can even stand up. I have mentioned this before and got shot down. I guess it will again.
 

mr ashley

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when you play in a team where teams don't sit back and defend against you, it is much easier to look good. Lamela would look a world beater at Bournemouth.
Has lamela really looked a world beater in our recent games playing a counter-attacking style?
 

TEESSIDE1

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There is no reason whatsoever to think Brooks is injury prone. He has had 2 injuries in his career thus far. Both times the ankle, last year it kept him out 5 games. Nothing out of the normal, something you expect during the course of a season.

This year he had a major injury and missed a year of football. But, there is no indication that this will flare up again or anything like that. Having a long term injury does not mean they are injury prone.

The worry is if he is able to refind the form he had last season. He has shown a lot of promise since coming back, but it is always a worry. For a good price there are more upsides than downsides.

He did his ankle in preseason and had surgery which had a projected 3 months out before he would be ready to play again. The surgery wasn’t successful and he required further surgery which ruled him out for further which amounted to nearly a whole year in total. Eddie Howe has said he had numerous issues with his ankle and it wasn’t healing as expected. The problem with ligament injuries and in particular the ankle, once there’s wear and tear it will gradually deteriorate over time... making him more prone to doing it again and facing many more months on the sidelines.
 

BuckeyeSpurs11

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He did his ankle in preseason and had surgery which had a projected 3 months out before he would be ready to play again. The surgery wasn’t successful and he required further surgery which ruled him out for further which amounted to nearly a whole year in total. Eddie Howe has said he had numerous issues with his ankle and it wasn’t healing as expected. The problem with ligament injuries and in particular the ankle, once there’s wear and tear it will gradually deteriorate over time... making him more prone to doing it again and facing many more months on the sidelines.

having injured my own ankle several times, it’s been explained to me that every sprain stretches the ligaments more and they don’t tighten back up. That’s where the potential to reinjure comes from.
 

mr ashley

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Very different situation, surely you can see that.
It’s not a simple like for like, but yes, I can see the differences between playing for a top four team and a relegation threatened team.

I think you’ve gone way over the top with the world beater comment though. He’s had opportunities to do it here, in both counter attacking and possession based setups and still remains frustrating as hell.

Great energy, little end product
 

fatpiranha

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I really like Brooks. He has the ability to pierce parked defences and, had he not been injured for most of this season, I think Bournemouth would have stayed up and we'd all be talking about how we should have bought him last summer and how we can't afford him now.
 

Hoddle&Waddle

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It's not good. But there isn't much to suggest this will lead to major injury problems.
Unless hes going for a very cheap price, which I doubt, I would wait 6 months and have another look then.

Surely you have to sign a player off the back of some form. And whilst hes been ok for a few games he hasn't rediscovered that form of a year ago.

I think you could say we made that mistake with Jack Clarke
 

JayB

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Unless hes going for a very cheap price, which I doubt, I would wait 6 months and have another look then.

Surely you have to sign a player off the back of some form. And whilst hes been ok for a few games he hasn't rediscovered that form of a year ago.

I think you could say we made that mistake with Jack Clarke
His quality was still evident IMO, his vision and technique were on full display after the restart even if he didn't bag goals or assists. He may not have been at his absolute best, but Bournemouth were shit overall and it naturally takes players a run of matches to get up to speed. And he'd likely be replacing Lamela who isn't exactly full of end product himself.

If there's a bidding war and he winds up being quite expensive I can see why it might be too much of a risk, but if we can get him on a cut price deal due to their dire finances it'd be very shrewd business IMO.
 
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