DiVaio
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Or its just a fact that we had those chance in final, been in a semifinal other times and loosing every one of them comes more to managers and not owners
ENIC...
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kannanmothalali
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When there is no expectation from the top to win trophies then there will always be excuses. This team won't win anything soon. Mediocrity is the expectation from both the management and a majority of fans. I rest my case.
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DiVaio
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Yeah Levy and our fans expects this team to lose matches, sure.
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If the last decade is mediocrity then I'll have a mediocre life please. The fact is we're one of the best teams in England and about to go into a European competition as one of, if not the, favourite(s) to win it. For people around my age (I'm 35), that's a different universe to the first part if our Spurs-supporting lives.
If you want to judge the value of supporting a football team solely on what trophies they win then that's up to you, but clearly the vast majority of football fans disagree. Christ, imagine being a fan of Reading, Yeovil or Barnet (all fine clubs, I'm sure).
Yeah, we had chances against the team that won the Premier League and finished 23 points ahead of us in one and a team that got 97 points finishing 26 points ahead of us in the other.
We reached the finals of both against the odds, and now you are blaming the team rather the the funding to put the team together as being the reason we could not overturn significant odds-on favourites again.
Every semi or final we have been beaten in except Portsmouth we were significant underdogs.
OK Teflon Daniel, that it is your story and you are sticking to it.
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We made it to the finals in spite of but lost them because of? Same with the semi finals?
SecretLemonadeDrinker
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With respect, making a couple of baseless assertions and predictions isn't making a case at all! And since they are baseless, what you have actually done is to have rested a nonexistent case on a nonexistent base!
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This thread is bumped again because Arsenal won the FA Cup. As an underdog they beat City in semi who are 25pts above them and Chelsea 10 pts above them.
Since ENIC we have been in 5 finals and another 6 semifinals. Managers should really have done better or they didn't have any chance in any of them because Levy didn't buy Moutinho/Grealish etc? Better team in 15/16 than Leicester too.
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Winning trophies is hugely important but I want us to do it with ENIC and it’s the belief that this will happen that keeps me going. It is a competitive sport and in all competitive sports the ultimate aim is to obtain whatever trophy is on offer for it. I think that having any less ambition than aiming to win it is unacceptable and we have a manager who thinks the same but I do believe that as frustrating as ENIC can be at times, that’s where they want the club to be.
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I think the frustration on the football side is more not seeing and seizing the opportunities when they come(or unwilling too). I know it’s a bit of a cliche that everyone’s a couple of players short but there has been two occasions when we were genuinely very close and we sat on our hands. We seem more aggressive in the market when we’re in danger of missing out on Europe. Favourite cliche now seems to be context but people don’t look at that when they’re running to the defence of ENIC.
Are people really confidant they’re going to change how they operate? They’ll always be an excuse, managers, stadium, pandemic. We’ll be having the same conversation in 10 years time and still there will be people trotting our context and managerial mistakes line.
Are people really confidant they’re going to change how they operate? They’ll always be an excuse, managers, stadium, pandemic. We’ll be having the same conversation in 10 years time and still there will be people trotting our context and managerial mistakes line.
SecretLemonadeDrinker
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Reasonably asking that someone uses stats in context is now a "cliche"? Good lord....whatever next? Stats are meaningless without context. Tell you what, I'll only keep banging on about it if others keep posting stats with zero reference to context. Seems fair.
In the meanwhile, I have no problem conceding that Levy has made plenty of mistakes and, as you say, has failed to seize opportunities at key moments.
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Quite how this thread hasn't arrived at a conversation about how best to torture Daniel Levy is baffling. I have so many ideas.
RichieS
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The way I see it is this - if the money's there, they spend it. If it isn't, they don't. You could argue (as @leelee did) that they shouldn't have spent as much as they did on the stadium and that perhaps an opportunity was missed due to that but the whole point is that, long term, we are now not dependent on either CL revenue or the ill-gotten gains of a third party to pay competitive salaries to top players.
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We have not been, that’s probably the point
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Happy to agree with the essence of the first paragraph, it's something I have had to come round to accept since the window(s) of no players and one or two instances prior to that. It's frustrating and I'm not always willing (like I once was) to accept excuses as readily as I once did (this is all from my perspective and I talk for no one else)
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Wasn't sure where else to post this (if anybody has a suggestion I'll happily move it)
Surely this has to be complete shit? The group stages of Europa doesn't bring in that much financially does it? Does anybody have any knowledge?
Let's say it was true, I think the club has to risk backing Jose that he will win the 3 games it takes to qualify and not hold back on deal. As I say I'm sceptical.
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wrd
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I really hope this is Dan KP reaching for a bigger story rather than getting fed a bit of info. I have to say I suspect it is him reaching.
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