Benjamin Stambouli? No mate, it’s Christian Eriksen.Gonna take a wild guess that this is BS
What and ruin the turkey shoot? FunstealerGonna take a wild guess that this is BS
I dunno... If I was getting played every single game for about 6 seasons, without being subbed, because every other fucker kept getting injured, and then the owner kept refusing to get more midfielders in to balance the workload, to the point I was blowing out my arse, but still managed to chalk up comparable stats each and every season, and the fan base still kept calling me a lazy shit regardless... I'd probably say fuck this n'all.
All half decent players generate interest from other clubs. That in no way indicates those clubs would be willing to actually put the money in to sign him. He had "interest" from Real Madrid last year, but they were nowhere to be seen when Inter made their bid.
Berbatov played and scored in the only cup final that King won. Why would people be pissed that King wanted him in a testimonial, which is a generally meaningless game anyway? He's one of the most talented strikers we've had, at least in the last 30-40 years, it's hardly surprising that people remember him in that regard.
Okay, he didn't do that. Instead, he ran his contract down and forced the club to sell him for relative peanuts. That's far more beneficial to Spurs and he should get credit for that.
Tottenham + Eriksen = top 4 and Champions League money. Tottenham + £16m - Eriksen = Not top 4. Yeah, very counter productive.
A player downs tools but it's not his fault, it's the club? I thought he made it clear that he wanted to leave the club but he'd be professional while he was still here? Half assing your job isn't what I call being professional. I'd say someone downing tools is exactly the same principle as someone trying to force their way out of the club.
Yeah, there were a lot of performances in that time. The difference being only Eriksen decided he was going to force a move away to a "bigger club" to "win trophies"
Show me a consistent run of games where any of those players were clearly not putting the required effort in when they were trying to leave the club.
I don't hate Eriksen at all, it's been a long time since I got that emotionally invested in football. I'm just not arrogant enough to claim that anyone who does is stupid.
Gareth Bale moved on to better his career. He carried the Spurs team in his final year before moving for a world record fee and justified his transfer. How many people hated him compared to understanding the move?
Eriksen moved to a team that was, at the time, a lateral move at best. From a Champions League team to a Europa League team. And he can't even get off the bench. That's hardly a slap in the face of Spurs fans.
If anything, I don't understand why he didn't just give his all at Spurs for the remainder of his contract and see if any of the bigger clubs would take him on a free. I don't see how his move to Inter can be seen as a "win" in his eyes.
Your evidence of interest is 4 years ago from the player's agent. Right when the club were negotiating a contract extension. You know, the time where an agent will use whatever leverage they have to get the best deal for their client. A common tactic involves showing interest from other clubs.Moved this out of the Europa thread.
Oh I see, we'll completely dismiss what his agent says then shall we because it doesn't fit the narrative you're perpetuating.
Whether he had bids come in for his is irrelevant, the club don't need to be contacted in the form of a bid for a player for a transfer offer, his agent would have been contacted for his availability, that's generally how a lot of transfers work these days, through agents. For example a bid didn't come in for Jadon Sancho from Man Utd but he had already agree personal teams with them, his agent was contacted by them last year.
Because people didn't boo a player during a testimonial, it means they consider him a hero?*sigh* You keep twisting those words and I'll keep untwisting them for you . I didn't say people should be pissed off with him playing in King's testimonial, you said that you don't recall anyone ever referring to Berbatov as a hero, I've given you a the perfect example when he was cheered in King's testimonial and the lack of hate towards him, yet you pretty much answered your own question anyway when you said time is a healer so you're just arguing the toss for the sake of it.
You've conveniently chosen to ignore the part in my first post when I said "a fit and firing Eriksen would've given us a bigger chance of top 4 than anyone we could have replaced him with." While also accusing me of dismissing things that don't fit my narrative. Huh.What the entire fek does this mean?
Are you suggesting that he ought to have stayed until the end of the season and if he did we'd get guaranteed top 4? But wait I thought he was putting in half assed performances and downed tools? Way to contradict yourself.
So you agree that he was unprofessional for an extended period of time at the club. But people can't dislike him for that.Here we go again, twisting words...the club should take some blame for letting him get into his comfort zone, had they signed at least a backup IMO it would have either forced his hand or gave him a kick up the arse he needed. As I said, he downed tools long before he made it clear he wanted to leave and yes it was unprofessional of him I agree but I think the club could have acted better in managing the situation.
Again, you're making presumptions about me. I couldn't care less that he's gone. I agree that ambition is fine. He had the opportunity to win the Champions League last season, and did absolutely nothing to help. Then claimed he moved to Inter for a better chance at winning trophies.He didn't "Force a move" he just didn't sign a contract. There's nothing wrong with being ambitions, you're just acting like a jealous ex because it's at our club's expense.
Sure, go and look at the run of games from September to December 2019.Yeah let me just pull out some Youtube videos ffs
Okay seeing as you want to play that game, show me the consistent run of matches where it shows Eriksen clearly not putting in the required evidence seeing as you're the one so adamant in making the claim. We can both waste each other's time with stupid posts like this or we can carry on debating, your choice.
"Refusing" to train in pre season when the club is already negotiating his departure is nowhere near as detrimental to the club as not bothering to perform when playing in actual competitive matches.A lot of people hated the way he went on about his move, refusing to train and play in pre season, that's the point I'm making. The club he moved to are highly irrelevant unless it's a Prem rival.
Lets be honest, he moved to Inter because none of the bigger clubs were interested in him and that was the only choice he had at the time.He moved to a team who has a higher chance of winning trophies, he's ambitious. you can hardly blame him for wanting out, the project was over and we were on a downward trend and he hadn't won a thing, pretty sure he didn't move to site on the bench like you're suggesting either. If he wins something in the next few years which due to the amount of money Inter have and quality players he is surrounded by then it will 100% vindicate his decision.
Your evidence of interest is 4 years ago from the player's agent. Right when the club were negotiating a contract extension. You know, the time where an agent will use whatever leverage they have to get the best deal for their client. A common tactic involves showing interest from other clubs.
Because people didn't boo a player during a testimonial, it means they consider him a hero?
The club already had Dele and Lamela as options for that #10 role. They also tried to sign Grealish 2 years ago, so evidently they did try to do that. Not to mention Eriksen himself said he would be open to extending his contract if attractive offers didn't appear.
You've conveniently chosen to ignore the part in my first post when I said "a fit and firing Eriksen would've given us a bigger chance of top 4 than anyone we could have replaced him with." While also accusing me of dismissing things that don't fit my narrative. Huh.
So you agree that he was unprofessional for an extended period of time at the club. But people can't dislike him for that.
Again, you're making presumptions about me. I couldn't care less that he's gone. I agree that ambition is fine. He had the opportunity to win the Champions League last season, and did absolutely nothing to help. Then claimed he moved to Inter for a better chance at winning trophies.
Sure, go and look at the run of games from September to December 2019.
"Refusing" to train in pre season when the club is already negotiating his departure is nowhere near as detrimental to the club as not bothering to perform when playing in actual competitive matches.
Lets be honest, he moved to Inter because none of the bigger clubs were interested in him and that was the only choice he had at the time.
But it's pointless going back and forth on this. This is the internet, nobody is going to change their mind and we'll just keep repeating the same points endlessly.
I'll just end with the fact that you've agreed multiple times that he was unprofessional in his final 18 months, or roughly 25% of his total appearances at Spurs, but you think that he doesn't deserve to be criticised for that. Other people think he does deserve to be criticised for that. I don't think that makes them stupid.
I think the fact that his form has continued into Inter suggests it wasn't due to a lack of trying why his performances dipped. More to do with his head not being quite right, or maybe fatigue. I think he did try, he just couldn't perform. Both Winks and Mourinho complemented Eriksen's professionalism going into January. I don't think he intended to be not that good, I don't think he intended his move to inter to be filled with pretty shoddy performances.Lets be honest, he moved to Inter because none of the bigger clubs were interested in him and that was the only choice he had at the time.
But it's pointless going back and forth on this. This is the internet, nobody is going to change their mind and we'll just keep repeating the same points endlessly.
I'll just end with the fact that you've agreed multiple times that he was unprofessional in his final 18 months, or roughly 25% of his total appearances at Spurs, but you think that he doesn't deserve to be criticised for that. Other people think he does deserve to be criticised for that. I don't think that makes them stupid.