fishhhandaricecake
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A little bit but also Dele and Winks not good enough and Sanchez is off it and Davies is not a CB.
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rez9000
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I think because those he brought on have delivered in the past. Kane, Son, Lamela, Lucas and PEH have all put in good performances this season. Vini had one good game and I don't think he pulled him off for performance, I think that was purely tactical. But Dele and Bergwijn in particular have shown nothing this season.
Yes but it seemed the team as a whole thought all they had to do was turn up. After 11 games unbeaten we were soft tonight
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His half time substitutions are very hit and miss.
I think the Vinicius and Lo Celso substitutions require justification from him. They made no sense at the time and they still don’t. It looks like he’s singled out two of our better performers in the first half and let the likes of Winks, Davies and Reguilon off who were all unacceptably poor.
I think the Vinicius and Lo Celso substitutions require justification from him. They made no sense at the time and they still don’t. It looks like he’s singled out two of our better performers in the first half and let the likes of Winks, Davies and Reguilon off who were all unacceptably poor.
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Unfortunately, he can't call on Gedson to try and mold him into a functional CM and he'll probably not call on Harvey White to replace Winks. So he has to wait until January to look to make some changes. I would recall Skipp if Jose feels he's ready to challenge.
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Tonight reminded me of the team that we saw at the end of MP's time, not the one we've seen in recent weeks.
No real coincidence that it was also a chance for some of the fringe players to impress.
As much as you could knock anyone in the team, the complete lack of midfield was glaringly obvious. I just don't know how Winks and Dele can have gone from real talent to completely inert players. Neither really offered anything to either attack or defence, and that left other players to suffer because of it. Poor game from Gio and Stevie too though.
I hope Jose does the one thing that Poch failed to and sticks by his guns and gives some players a bit of reality. Simply never going to succeed if they can't turn up when any chance, personal or team, is there on a platter.
No real coincidence that it was also a chance for some of the fringe players to impress.
As much as you could knock anyone in the team, the complete lack of midfield was glaringly obvious. I just don't know how Winks and Dele can have gone from real talent to completely inert players. Neither really offered anything to either attack or defence, and that left other players to suffer because of it. Poor game from Gio and Stevie too though.
I hope Jose does the one thing that Poch failed to and sticks by his guns and gives some players a bit of reality. Simply never going to succeed if they can't turn up when any chance, personal or team, is there on a platter.
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That's not an unrealistic possibility. Skippy's been doing well for Norwich by all accounts, so bring him back and give him the responsibility. If the second string can't up their game when called upon, there's nothing to lose in getting one of loanees back to have a stab.
As for Gedson, my guess is that he's just completely outside of consideration now. Not being named in the EL squad and I can't even remember when he was last in a PL squad. Wasn't there some hoo-ha about Gedson having a ding-dong with someone at Benfica and that's why they shifted him out on loan? Could it be an attitude issue?
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He is one angry man.
He got someone to take the photo of him looking pissed off. That’s equally funny!
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We had ITK that Jose wanted Winks to add assists and goals to his game.
He is well well well of that target. Think we'll already be eyeing targets for next summer.
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There is always a lot of hyperbole around our squad after transfer windows. Even after the last summer transfer window there were people going on about “best ever PL squad” etc etc. As you say, what may look good on paper, reeling off names etc may sound good, but when you scratch the surface all is not as rosy.
Moura has some great moments, but is unbelievably inconsistent and his all round game is poor. Love Lamela’s attitude, but he consistently makes poor decisions and doesn’t execute in the final third and Bergwyin has potential and did well in his first few games, but hardly setting the PL alight. Even Gio, who is clearly a good player, has continual fitness issues and is elevated beyond his status by some fans imo based on what he has done so far.
Don’t get me wrong, we have a lot of good players and I think we had a good transfer window, but some of the talk after the window shut was way ott.
Apart from Kane and Son, Redknapp’s squad was far superior in every way. And Poch’s in 2017, although a bit light in numbers was probably better as well.
We still have a way to go, both mentality wise, but personnel wise too.
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True.
I know people will say all players should be ready on the bench but imagine being Kane, Son, Hojbjerg...you're probably thinking that you won't be needed and the the reason you're on the bench is because the coach trusts the others and wants to keep you reserved for the weekend.
Instead, you end up having to come on and trying to get a result in a game you've not really prepared for.
Ultimately I think there was just too many changes, which will explain some poor performances.
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There's a lot of players in the midfield not playing well and haven't been good enough, Winks and Dele in particular. However I do have empathy for them because I do think they're lacking confidence from the fact we have transitioned the team and their places have been lost. I think it's going to take a long time before we see them putting in consistent good performances. Both need to change positions, Winks for example is clearly not the right fit for the Hojbjerg role, especially with Skipp ready to take that role next summer also.
We heard from tottenhamboys that Winks wasn't confident of his position in the summer and to me it seems he's going to have to move his game further forward if he's going to be apart of the squad. Dele needs to adapt his game for the midfield role also, he can't live off flicks around the box and good timing anymore, he's going to have to develop himself to work hard defensively in midfield, carry the ball from midfield to attack similar to what Lo Celso, Sissoko and Lamela can do. I feel bad for that they're struggling, but we've moved forward as a team and they're going to have to adapt if they want to remain in the squad. I hope they do.
We heard from tottenhamboys that Winks wasn't confident of his position in the summer and to me it seems he's going to have to move his game further forward if he's going to be apart of the squad. Dele needs to adapt his game for the midfield role also, he can't live off flicks around the box and good timing anymore, he's going to have to develop himself to work hard defensively in midfield, carry the ball from midfield to attack similar to what Lo Celso, Sissoko and Lamela can do. I feel bad for that they're struggling, but we've moved forward as a team and they're going to have to adapt if they want to remain in the squad. I hope they do.
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I believe it was the previous manager that didn't see eye to eye with Gedson and was happy to let him leave on loan. It's a tough one because Dele and Winks need minutes to establish a rhythm and keep up with the preferred first team players but when given the opportunities, they fail to impress. I think it's clear by listening to Jose's post match interview that some players might be moved on come January.
dagraham
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Maybe he’s trying to get down to their level? That seems to be the way young people communicate these days ( I‘m aware this makes me seem like an old git
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Sorry sonny, could you speak up a little? My hearing isn't what it was, y'know.Maybe he’s trying to get down to their level? That seems to be the way young people communicate these days ( I‘m aware this makes me seem like an old git
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It's probably been said already but can we just buy their entire backline? They were so switched on to everything.
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Until their goal I actually thought Davies was playing quite well, but I agree with your general point.
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You can add Bale to that too.
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