Jose Mourinho

Shadydan said:

Davies was our LB in our 2016/17 team playing far better than this

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Jay. said:

If only Poch had been given transfer funds. What could have been....
...this is on the owners I’m afraid

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Trix said:

My worry is the same thing that happened with Poch is happening a

Do you honestly think he believes we can beat anyone at the moment?

I don't. He knows that back line is the problem, that's why it's constantly changing. He doesn't believe we can keep a clean sheet playing anything other than the all out low block and neither do I.

Should just go back to it this season until replacements can be bought in the Summer. Fuck what the purists say.

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Typical Spurs said:

The problem is, we are so concerned with stopping the opposition that two things happen:

1. We play a low block. This inevitably invites pressure which sees opponents get free kicks/corners and put general pressure on the defence until we crack - which we inevitably do, which is a huge problem with this style.

2. Playing that way means we put far less pressure on the opposition defence than we should. Instead we rely on precision counters which when they work are fantastic, but places way too much emphasis on Kane and Son.

If he doesn't have the confidence in us defending, then he should be pragmatic and play us on the front foot and pin the opposition in their half - away from our goal and where we have our best players.

I've always been pro Jose and want him to succeed because then Spurs succeed. But he is just as responsible for setting us up to play so cautiously because of the amazing Brighton, than the players who look half arsed.

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Finchyid said:

he played half the games

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jazz15c said:

The fact is, under both Poch and Mourinho, barring a couple of purple patches, we've been fucking dismal for 2 years now. The common denominator in all of that; the players. And they'll do the same to the next manager too. Sadly, the players know that they won't be sacked, it'll always be the boss that gets the chop for their 'performances'

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Stamford said:

Poch was a disaster in the market so I'm delighted he wasn't given any money

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Trix said:

We've seen it time and time again recently when we push forward one long pass and we are scrambling around like idiots.

Push us forward and who is creating? I think people think it's as simple as push us forward and we will be like Liverpool and City. We won't! We don't have the numbers of technically confident players who can first control the ball and then find another player in tight areas. We can't build that sustained pressure like they do and that's why we looked so much better countering into space. We saw it game after game under Poch. Teams park the bus and we can't unlock the door.

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TheHoddleWaddle said:

Thing is, when Pochettino first started, he had to route out the problem players. The ones knocking on his door and rebelling against the training methods. He was backed and things went from strength to strength.... to almost winning something.

I get everyones frustrations, I share them. But the team is in a wierd place and whilst another coach might show us some more attractive football, I don't think they could improve the league position with the players that are currently available.

Time is a rare luxury for anyone in the game though. He knows that. I think tactical changes are due.

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Gb160 said:

This is where I'm at.

I've backed Jose to the hilt but that performance yesterday was unacceptable, the players just looked like they couldn't give a fuck for 90% of that game, and to be honest that scares me.
It scares me because that's the first time under Jose that, to me, it really looked like the players just weren't playing for him, yeah we've had shit performances before, but not like that.

People can scream and shout 'Jose Out!' into the internet as loud as they like, they can jump on whatever wagon they choose to, but that aint gonna make a jot of difference until there are 60k fans booing loudly at the final whistle, that's what the world sees, that's what the media love, and that's what will force change from the bald one (barring a relegation threat).
I think the ace up Levy's sleeve is that because there are no fans at games, he won't feel pressured into making a decision yet.

It also scares me for another reason, people think that changing the manager will instantly make things great...sacking this manager won't, you're living in a dream land if you think Kane and Son are sticking around for Ralph fucking Hasenhuttl, Brendan Rogers, or the latest hipster poster boy from Germany... it aint happening, these are world class players who deserve to win the big things, they're irreplaceable (when you look at our recruitment)...just look at our squad if you take those 2 out.

This is why the next few months are absolutely pivotal, I want more than ever for Jose to turn this around, but I honestly fear for us in the medium term what happens if he can't.

I can't emphasise enough how much I hate the term 'spursy', but to employ one of the most successful and decorated managers in history and to be in this mess is ....

I actually believe we're just fucking cursed.

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cider spurs said:

I agree with this to an extent, but if we actually had different players continually making runs in the final third, we'd actually have options to at least look for the pass.

Don't have to be technically gifted to make runs and drag defenders all over the place. Far too many stood still waiting to receive the ball in the final third. Usually stood right next to an opponent nullifying the passing option, so back the ball goes.

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Gb160 said:

This is where I'm at.

I've backed Jose to the hilt but that performance yesterday was unacceptable, the players just looked like they couldn't give a fuck for 90% of that game, and to be honest that scares me.
It scares me because that's the first time under Jose that, to me, it really looked like the players just weren't playing for him, yeah we've had shit performances before, but not like that.

People can scream and shout 'Jose Out!' into the internet as loud as they like, they can jump on whatever wagon they choose to, but that aint gonna make a jot of difference until there are 60k fans booing loudly at the final whistle, that's what the world sees, that's what the media love, and that's what will force change from the bald one (barring a relegation threat).
I think the ace up Levy's sleeve is that because there are no fans at games, he won't feel pressured into making a decision yet.

It also scares me for another reason, people think that changing the manager will instantly make things great...sacking this manager won't, you're living in a dream land if you think Kane and Son are sticking around for Ralph fucking Hasenhuttl, Brendan Rogers, or the latest hipster poster boy from Germany... it aint happening, these are world class players who deserve to win the big things, they're irreplaceable (when you look at our recruitment)...just look at our squad if you take those 2 out.

This is why the next few months are absolutely pivotal, I want more than ever for Jose to turn this around, but I honestly fear for us in the medium term what happens if he can't.

I can't emphasise enough how much I hate the term 'spursy', but to employ one of the most successful and decorated managers in history and to be in this mess is ....

I actually believe we're just fucking cursed.

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cider spurs said:

I agree with this to an extent, but if we actually had different players continually making runs in the final third, we'd actually have options to at least look for the pass.

Don't have to be technically gifted to make runs and drag defenders all over the place. Far too many stood still waiting to receive the ball in the final third. Usually stood right next to an opponent nullifying the passing option, so back the ball goes.

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But there was something in the awfulness of this game too that reminded you of when Chelsea started to spiral in the first half of the 2015-16 season. That was the most spectacular collapse in modern British football history, as Mourinho’s team went from Premier League champions to 16th place when he was sacked at Christmas. The Chelsea players looked so lost and tired and flat, with no energy in their passing or pressing, no spirit and no ideas. Almost every week they were outplayed by teams with a fraction of their budget. And to see Brighton run rings around Tottenham on Sunday night was to be hit with a pang of anti-nostalgia for what Antonio Conte famously called the “Mourinho season”.

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