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JUSTINSIGNAL

JUSTINSIGNAL

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sundanceyid10 said:
Spending the money correctly always seems to be the problem though.
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It doesn’t really though does it? Look at some of the talent we’ve had during ENIC’s tenure - Modric, Berbatov, Bale, Eriksen, Vertonghen, Dembele

Even the Bale money we spent gave us players that like Chadli, Lamela, Eriksen, that were large parts of our success under Poch.

I realise people want to vent recklessly but let’s not rewrite history. Our recruitment, in the main, has been bloody good under ENIC. This is why we have been able to reach a position where we’re expected to be in the conversation for top 4 even though we have the lowest resources of the top 6.

Yes we’re going through a relative bad patch, but the right manager and a few decent signings and we’ll be up there again.
 
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danielneeds

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coopsieyid said:
Nope I didn't get the joke, which I apologise about. Just as I apologise for sticking my nose in, re people's appearance.

It's just something I've always had an issue with & have always stood up for.

I see it as no different to watching the school bully pick on a kid for being overweight, or ginger etc. It's a personal thing, the very thing I used to take great pleasure out of whilst stomping on the bully in front of most of the school & then walking away with the overweight/ginger kid, making sure he knows he'll not be bullied again.

I do get highly strung over such things, so I'll apologise once again for sticking my nose in & derailing the thread.

I guess the irony is that I derailed the Harry Kane thread. The very same Harry Kane that people get up in arms about when some non funny **** from a rival teams fanbase mocks the way he speaks.

It's a funny old game!
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No worries.???
 
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We've had some very exciting teams that gave us fans quite a ride in the last 13 years:

1. The league cup winning team of 2008 (I still cannot decide if spanking Arsenal 5-1 in the semifinal was better than beating Chelsea at Wembley). This was the team that got us back into Europe on a regular basis after a long absence:

(Juande Ramos) Robinson, Hutton, King Woodgate, Chimbonda, Jenas, Zokora, Malbranque, Lennon, Keane, Berbatov

2. Just two years later and Harry Redknapp took a virtually totally different team into the CL, with amazing pace and power on the wings and the magic of Modric and VDV in the middle (it was the sale of Berbatov and Keane that effectively funded Bale, Modric and VDV).

(Harry Redknapp) Cudicini, Hutton, Kaboul, Gallas, Assou-Ekotto, Huddlestone, Modric, Lennon, Bale, VDV, Crouch

*If you'd had been told on the night we smashed Inter MIlan (Taxi for Macon in 2012) that none of this team or the manager would still be with us in 2015/16 how would you have reacted? Probably with total disdain and anger*

3. Then just a few years later we had the Poch era team, with totally different players, that went so close to winning the league (the sale of Bale and Modric helped fund this team).

(Mauricio Pochettino) Lloris, Walker, Alderweireld, Vertonghen, Rose, Dier, Dembele, Eriksen, Dele, Son, Kane

Across that time we lost some top players who all forced moves (Modric, Bale, Berbatov, Keane, Walker). But we always rebuilt and went again, each time getting stronger. We also built a world class stadium and training facility in that time.

If Kane (or Dele, or Son) does leave. Either this summer or next. Or even the summer after that. There will always be a replacement. A superstar of tomorrow. Will they be home grown (Parrot or Scarlett)? Will they be a foreign superstar? Who knows, but they will come.
 
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JUSTINSIGNAL said:
It really though does it? Look at some of the naked we’ve had during ENIC’s tenure - Modric, Berbatov, Bale, Eriksen, Vertonghen, Dembele

Even the Bale money we spent gave us players that like Chadli, Lamela, Eriksen, that were large parts of our success under Poch.

I realise people want to vent recklessly but let’s not rewrite history. Our recruitment, in the main, has been bloody good under ENIC. This is why we have been able to reach a position where we’re expected to be in the conversation for top 4 even though we have the lowest resources of the top 6.

Yes we’re going through a relative bad patch, but the right manager and a few decent signings and we’ll be up there again.
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I agree totally but want to know what word you were typing on the first line that comes up as ‘naked’. ?
 
Rosco1984

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There may well be a Gentleman's agreement set at a certain level of value but we aren't just going to let him leave for half his value because he shook Levy's hand last summer. Gentleman's agreement or not someone's going to have to find £150m and that's a big risk to invest that much in someone who has repetitive injuries in the same location they don't tend to get better with age. That's at the best of times it's an even bigger risk after a season of no gate receipts and pie sales.
 
JUSTINSIGNAL

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GMI said:
I agree totally but want to know what word you were typing on the first line that comes up as ‘naked’. ?
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Not sure why ‘talent’ auto-corrects as ‘naked’. My iPhone is obviously thinking I’m on Tinder rather than SC ??
 
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wrd said:
Don't know if it's been said in here probably has but the BBC have said:

It is understood that Kane thinks he has a gentleman's agreement that would allow him to leave club this summer.
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The media do love a "gentleman's agreement". But without specificity, any such agreement is meaningless.

At the very most, Levy would have said to Harry that if Spurs fail to progress and if he was to receive an acceptable offer from an acceptable club, then he would let Harry leave. But not in a million years would Levy have specified what he deems to be an acceptable offer. So he won't be honour bound to let Harry leave.
 
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tommo84

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JUSTINSIGNAL said:
I realise people want to vent recklessly but let’s not rewrite history. Our recruitment, in the main, has been bloody good under ENIC. This is why we have been able to reach a position where we’re expected to be in the conversation for top 4 even though we have the lowest resources of the top 6.

Yes we’re going through a relative bad patch, but the right manager and a few decent signings and we’ll be up there again.
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The problem though is that our current bad spell in recruitment has been going on since 2016. The current set-up of Levy and Hitchen is yet to really get one right. Sure, some of their recent purchases looked like good buys on paper and may still come good under a new manager - Ndombele, Lo Celso, Reguilon, Bergwijn - but our recent track record is a cause for concern. If I had cause for optimism that £120m - £150m could be reinvested smartly and effectively then I’d be much more relaxed about life after Kane, but our dependency on him is largely down to how poor our recruitment has been during his time with us.
 
agrdavidsfan

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Honestly maybe Harry has just done us a huge favor, maybe he’s also a fan that’s joined the protest but maybe he knows his protest wins!
 
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In the event Kane leaves I remember last season or the one before that posters were wetting themselves over that Zambian striker......what became of him.?
 
JUSTINSIGNAL

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tommo84 said:
The problem though is that our current bad spell in recruitment has been going on since 2016. The current set-up of Levy and Hitchen is yet to really get one right. Sure, some of their recent purchases looked like good buys on paper and may still come good under a new manager - Ndombele, Lo Celso, Reguilon, Bergwijn - but our recent track record is a cause for concern. If I had cause for optimism that £120m - £150m could be reinvested smartly and effectively then I’d be much more relaxed about life after Kane, but our dependency on him is largely down to how poor our recruitment has been during his time with us.
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Don’t think you can really judge Hitchen’s signings until we have a settled manager and he’s not being restricted financially by the stadium build.
 
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I don't believe a thing the media says regarding Kane. But, I'm cautions to believe sources saying he is staying, too, as that was also the mantra the summer Bale left.
 
spids

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tommo84 said:
The problem though is that our current bad spell in recruitment has been going on since 2016. The current set-up of Levy and Hitchen is yet to really get one right. Sure, some of their recent purchases looked like good buys on paper and may still come good under a new manager - Ndombele, Lo Celso, Reguilon, Bergwijn - but our recent track record is a cause for concern. If I had cause for optimism that £120m - £150m could be reinvested smartly and effectively then I’d be much more relaxed about life after Kane, but our dependency on him is largely down to how poor our recruitment has been during his time with us.
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I think we have a lot of relatively new players in the squad who are, or will become, very, very good players - Reguilon, Rodon, Højbjerg, Lo Celso, Ndombele, Bergwijn - all here less than two years. I also think we have a lot of stale players who might need a new challenge, the likes of Lamela, Son, Dele, Dier, Kane have been here a long time and maybe getting so close, failing and then ultimately regressing has made them very stale. Replacing some of them with new blood will reinvigorate the first team squad. I'd rather not lose world class players like Kane and Son obviously, but energy and ambition are key for the team to be successful and maybe that is what is needed.
 
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Steffen said:
I don't believe a thing the media says regarding Kane. But, I'm cautions to believe sources saying he is staying, too, as that was also the mantra the summer Bale left.
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It wasn't JJs mantra mate, only one bar I think another I can't remember. Said straight away he was going
 
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JUSTINSIGNAL said:
It doesn’t really though does it? Look at some of the talent we’ve had during ENIC’s tenure - Modric, Berbatov, Bale, Eriksen, Vertonghen, Dembele

Even the Bale money we spent gave us players that like Chadli, Lamela, Eriksen, that were large parts of our success under Poch.

I realise people want to vent recklessly but let’s not rewrite history. Our recruitment, in the main, has been bloody good under ENIC. This is why we have been able to reach a position where we’re expected to be in the conversation for top 4 even though we have the lowest resources of the top 6.

Yes we’re going through a relative bad patch, but the right manager and a few decent signings and we’ll be up there again.
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One of the major reason why we are expected to be in the top 4 with the lowest resources is because of Kane, who didn’t cost us any money, do you honestly think Kane and his goals can be that easily replaced? And where did you get the confidence that Levy can make the right decision on signing the right players with his track record of all the players that we had missed due to his penny pinching
 
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