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It's the Euros 2020! Finals Match Thread: It’s gone to Rome…

Winner Euros 2020

  • England

    Votes: 64 21.6%

  • Belgium

    Votes: 14 4.7%

  • France

    Votes: 98 33.1%

  • Germany

    Votes: 13 4.4%

  • Italy

    Votes: 81 27.4%

  • Portugal

    Votes: 13 4.4%

  • Netherlands

    Votes: 2 0.7%

  • Other

    Votes: 11 3.7%
  • Total voters
    296
Serpico

Serpico

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I really do mean this...
Today Ive seen videos of punch ups at pub screenings, racial tweets, supporters storming Wembley and rioting on the streets of London and more. All post Euro Cup final England defeat. Ive never experienced such events but Im not surprised. It has spoiled the whole event for me. Im Italian and can enjoy the victory but it feels so shallow. What a load of bollocks all this is. Years past a black player (JF) took his life because he was gay. Will we see a black player to lose or take their life because of all the shite he has to take after a defeat or just playing poorly.
 
KILLA_SIN

KILLA_SIN

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Serpico said:
I really do mean this...
Today Ive seen videos of punch ups at pub screenings, racial tweets, supporters storming Wembley and rioting on the streets of London and more. All post Euro Cup final England defeat. Ive never experienced such events but Im not surprised. It has spoiled the whole event for me. Im Italian and can enjoy the victory but it feels so shallow. What a load of bollocks all this is. Years past a black player (JF) took his life because he was gay. Will we see a black player to lose or take their life because of all the shite he has to take after a defeat or just playing poorly.
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They would have grown up experiencing it, so probably nothing new to them
 
LSUY

LSUY

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What is it about football that attracts the dickheads? Rugby and cricket fans aren't saints but they can manage to drink and not attack opposition fans and racially abuse players.
 
ZiggySpurs

ZiggySpurs

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Dec 28, 2020
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L.S.U.Yiddo said:
What is it about football that attracts the dickheads? Rugby and cricket fans aren't saints but they can manage to drink and not attack opposition fans and racially abuse players.
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*cough cough*

L.S.U.Yiddo said:
NOW SHOW ME CRYING DANISH CHILDREN!

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rossdapep

rossdapep

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L.S.U.Yiddo said:
What is it about football that attracts the dickheads? Rugby and cricket fans aren't saints but they can manage to drink and not attack opposition fans and racially abuse players.
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Anyone who has played Sunday League football will be able to tell you that you get a lot of guys turning up still half-cut for the 'banter' and fights. Some of these people can't even play football but will happily shove an elbow in your face or look to run through you first chance they get.

My first ever adult game in Sunday league at 17 and I was too afraid to do anything as I had two 30 odd year-old half-cut wankers telling me that they will break me if I try to beat them. And usually they're mates who have never kicked a ball in anger are on the sidelines intimidating too.

It goes hand in hand with our Saturday-night drinking culture that results in brawls over a spilled drink. In the pub all-day, watching the big game or a day at the races that starts at 8am with a breakfast and beer.
 
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JCRD

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Aug 10, 2018
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L.S.U.Yiddo said:
What is it about football that attracts the dickheads? Rugby and cricket fans aren't saints but they can manage to drink and not attack opposition fans and racially abuse players.
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I agree. I genuinely dont know why. Perhaps a rivalry thing. Perhaps an attendance thing - higher attendances so people slip through the crack. I found all the violence abhorrent and truly pathetic. I mean what are people thinking, what are people doing, it makes me ashamed to be a human. I tend to judge people on what I do and perhaps thats a bad thing I get that but i could never do what these people do - so i cant really comprehend it.

Why cant people just have a good fucking time.
 
SandroClegane

SandroClegane

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Mattspur said:
Gareth Southgate said in his press conference this morning that the racist social media posts had been investigated and that many of them, but not all, had originated from overseas.

I haven’t heard anything that says that the thugs weren’t English.
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Convenient way to brush the issue under the rug and not face the issue head on. Can't just keep on kicking the can down the road and pretending that these issues don't exist.
 
rossdapep

rossdapep

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Aug 25, 2011
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L.S.U.Yiddo said:
What is it about football that attracts the dickheads? Rugby and cricket fans aren't saints but they can manage to drink and not attack opposition fans and racially abuse players.
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Anyone who has played Sunday League football will be able to tell you that you get a lot of guys turning up still half-cut for the 'banter' and fights. Some of these people can't even play football but will happily shove an elbow in your face or look to run through you first chance they get.

My first ever adult game in Sunday league at 17 and I was too afraid to do anything as I had two 30 odd year-old half-cut wankers telling me that they will break me if I try to beat them. And usually they're mates who have never kicked a ball in anger are on the sidelines intimidating too.

It goes hand in hand with our Saturday-night drinking culture that results in brawls over a spilled drink. In the pub all-day, watching the big game or a day at the races that starts at 8am with a breakfast and beer.
 
Beni

Beni

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Sorry, but racism isn’t just an online thing.
My cousins wife’s sister (Half Italian) was watching the game last night with her 1 year old and other half and when England scored her neighbours kicked down her fence in her back garden and shouting have that you spag ****s and go home. She had to call the police.
Or the 8 English fans that started kicking the shit out of the 2 Italian fans after they celebrated Italy scoring inside the stadium.

Or me, when driving home from watching the game on the motorway with my wife and 2 daughters and having 3 cars notice my Italian car with an Italian flag and decide to shout and spit as they overtook, and one deciding to continually swerve towards me and try and intimidate me.
 
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Giovanni

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Aug 31, 2012
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easley91 said:
Italy didn't beat us in 90 or 120. We can take that as a huge positive for the future. It looks to me like Gareth is the kind of guy who learns from these moments. We have taken huge strides this tournament and please stop saying we hadn't faced any decent opposition. We beat Croatia, we beat a good Czech side, we beat GERMANY, we beat a Ukraine side who had given everything in the game prior, we beat a very good Denmark side, we took Italy all the way and barely gave Pickford anything to do over the course of two hours. We faced the mental hurdles more than anything else. That Germany win and winning in ET after being behind in a semi-final cannot be understated.
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But england were on home soil, with a whopping home crowd.

Will never be a chance as good as that.

Edit...Just to add italy have not lost on home soil since 1999 in a competitive match. If the final was on home soil what will have happened?
Yes england have world class talent, its very exciting but in all honesty i didnt see anything special considering the advantage they had throughout the tournament.
Im just being honest.
 
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rossdapep

rossdapep

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Moving forward, Grealish and Bellingham need to be given plenty of opportunities to give them the stature and understanding for the WC. We could do with a deeper midfielder breaking out too.
 
Phantom

Phantom

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Jun 6, 2005
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Many football fans represent the worst of human nature, it is however unfair in the extreme to paint it as England in general, a ridiculous assertion based on nothing but a handful of reports and some tweets. It is also unfortunately inaccurate to portray it as a small minority, the problem is larger than we would like to think.

Some of the things being said about some English players are totally abhorrent and are so vile that it makes me personally want to stop associating myself with football from the shame of it. I never use Twitter it is a total cess pool, populated by far too many vermin.

Twitter should make all details of individuals who are found to be posting this horrific crap available to Police immediately, it is totally unacceptable and there must be consequences.
 
MotspurHotspur

MotspurHotspur

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leelee said:
Was never convinced. Couldn't beat Scotland, beat the worst German team in my lifetime (I'm 42), beat a very poor Ukraine side and then scraped through against a Danish team without their best player. And all bar Ukraine were played at our home ground.

Italy were the first decent team we came up against.
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And they had to resort to grabbing players by the neck and nearly ripping shirts off to claim a drawer against us. Come on be fair, you can only play what's in front of you and so what if we had the 'easier draw' it's about flipping time things went our way for once.

We had one bad 45minutes and it cost us a goal but we stayed in it until the end and were the team pushing for the win before ET. There were loads of things that could be improved on but at the end of the day this squad got to a FINAL and just for a little while we believed we might win it. I would never had said that possible at the start of the tournament. A fantastic euros all round just a shame we couldn't get it over the line.
 
Cinemattis

Cinemattis

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Oh please … let’s be 100% totally and brutally honest:

The violent thugs, brutes, idiots, fans - whatever you chose to call them are English. This is an English problem. With the England fans. Never any problems anywhere in the world with the Irish, the Scots, the Welsh or the Norther Irish. But always the English. It’s not a British problem, it’s an English problem. You shouldn’t be embarrassed on behalf of humanity or people in general. You should only be embarrassed about the English. French, German, Dutch, Belgian, Spanish, Italian, Turkish - any of the Scandinavian or Nordic countries: never a problem. And if there are problems - never on an English level.

England fans are an embarrassment to themselves and their nation. But the most embarrassing is that nothing has ever been done to rectify it.
 
slartibartfast

slartibartfast

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Oct 21, 2012
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Beni said:
Sorry, but racism isn’t just an online thing.
My cousins wife’s sister (Half Italian) was watching the game last night with her 1 year old and other half and when England scored her neighbours kicked down her fence in her back garden and shouting have that you spag ****s and go home. She had to call the police.
Or the 8 English fans that started kicking the shit out of the 2 Italian fans after they celebrated Italy scoring inside the stadium.

Or me, when driving home from watching the game on the motorway with my wife and 2 daughters and having 3 cars notice my Italian car with an Italian flag and decide to shout and spit as they overtook, and one deciding to continually swerve towards me and try and intimidate me.
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Thats awful. So sorry for you. I'd have been bricking it.
These arseholes need putting down.
I still maintain it wouldn't have been as bad with an early ko. An evening ko was stupid. Not making excuses. More I knew this kind of shit would happen, why didn't the authorities?
 
jonnyrotten

jonnyrotten

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Aug 16, 2006
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Giovanni said:
But england were on home soil, with a whopping home crowd.

Will never be a chance as good as that.

Edit...Just to add italy have not lost on home soil since 1999 in a competitive match. If the final was on home soil what will have happened?
Yes england have world class talent, its very exciting but in all honesty i didnt see anything special considering the advantage they had throughout the tournament.
Im just being honest.
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But to be fair, you couldn't beat us in 120 minutes either
 
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