fishhhandaricecake
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Finally!
FORMER Manager Watch: Nuno Espírito Santo
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Finally!
BringBack_leGin
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CheeseGromit
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The situation has worsened.
Star player doesnt want to be at the club Most expensive player is a mis fit New manager has no pre season Early Internationals have major disruption due to Covid rules Many injuries to name a few
New
The tide I mentioned I was not in total agreement with is the citicism and ditching of NES simply because he has had enough time with the squad Call for his head and criticise the way he plays after a reasonable number of games Some wanted him gone before a ball was kicked
I dont accept broad agreement People are disappointed but some have given no chance. As I said give him some games And who are you going to get now who will trurn the tide now It takes time
He kept a Wolves side in the prem, remember the were recently promoted Criticism came his way there when the team was shorn of its best players. They had a successful run in the EL with arguably lesser quality players than we have Wolves played to a pattern and I would contend players played for him No stats moving on every year. A previous club Valencia were decent under his stewardship
I accept he is not one of the elite managers (which incidentally I wanted so I'm not trying to promote my candidate) but we arent getting that
The cards are stacked against him and as I said to another poster if your boss wanted you out of a job after such a short time you would be questioning why
The nature of these boards is to highlight extremes and it doesnt represent sanity or common sense as thats too boring for the posters
Aphex
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Saw this from a poster on redcafe but he's spot on, just show even other club fans can see it.
I'm not sure Conte was ever truly in the cards given their financial situation and the amount of surgery need on their roster. But they absolutely could have, and should have, sold Kane and just turned the keys over to someone like Potter or Ten Hag and told them to rebuild the squad.
The core problem at Spurs is that from the chairman down to the supporters they are all a bit delusional about the club's talent level. Beyond Kane and Son, there really just isn't a lot of higher end talent on the roster. In particular, they have almost none of the players you'd need to play a more progressive, technical football. They don't have any CBs who are particularly good with the ball. Their CMs are really poor technically, except for N'Dombele, but he has the worst engine in the PL, which is basically just disqualifying. Maybe Skipp will be good enough to build around but everybody else in midfield I'd be looking to move on from. And they quite literally don't have a real #10 or wide playmaker on the roster (Lo Celso really isn't one, as you can see from his total lack of end product) so they don't have players who are threats in attack but also can drop into midfield, give them solutions in possession when they are running out of ideas, and just generally be secure with the ball. The spine of their team simply can't play with the ball.
Jose Mourinho isn't an idiot. He saw this too and set the team up to play the only way it possibly might be successful.
But really they should just be looking to hire a new manager next summer and committing to a true rebuild.
I'm not sure Conte was ever truly in the cards given their financial situation and the amount of surgery need on their roster. But they absolutely could have, and should have, sold Kane and just turned the keys over to someone like Potter or Ten Hag and told them to rebuild the squad.
The core problem at Spurs is that from the chairman down to the supporters they are all a bit delusional about the club's talent level. Beyond Kane and Son, there really just isn't a lot of higher end talent on the roster. In particular, they have almost none of the players you'd need to play a more progressive, technical football. They don't have any CBs who are particularly good with the ball. Their CMs are really poor technically, except for N'Dombele, but he has the worst engine in the PL, which is basically just disqualifying. Maybe Skipp will be good enough to build around but everybody else in midfield I'd be looking to move on from. And they quite literally don't have a real #10 or wide playmaker on the roster (Lo Celso really isn't one, as you can see from his total lack of end product) so they don't have players who are threats in attack but also can drop into midfield, give them solutions in possession when they are running out of ideas, and just generally be secure with the ball. The spine of their team simply can't play with the ball.
Jose Mourinho isn't an idiot. He saw this too and set the team up to play the only way it possibly might be successful.
But really they should just be looking to hire a new manager next summer and committing to a true rebuild.
sidford
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Just being us
glacierSpurs
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Yeah he lost, but from the stats, Roma looked quite impressive under Mourinho, although I didn't watch them. He's now blabbering about in his pressers which he must be thinking he should be back to his old self. At Spurs he didn't, and I supposed he thought he was having a new outlook and philosophy after such a long break which I didn't think it do him any favours, personal opinion of course. But well, that's for his thread.
tony0379
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And sack him when Poch becomes available in the summer
Poch is more likely to end up at OT this summer
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We scraped past Watford. We scraped past Wolves. We got tonked by Palace. We got tonked by Chelski. We got tonked by the filthy Gooners. We did this whilst also being statistically the worst side in the league in nearly every metric. There is no discernible pattern of play. We are awful to watch. We look demotivated and unfit. We have one of the world's best forward lines and they're barely touching the ball let alone getting chance on goal. There are already murmurs of player discontent.
This isn't teething problems. This is a bad managerial appointment self-immolating before our eyes.
You can't sugar coat it.
punkisback
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So true. I’ve said this for years even since Poch. We don’t sign technicians or players with a brain anymore, nor do they come from the academy Hopefully the signing of Gill shows a change in that mentality.
glacierSpurs
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??? So right.. Those lads..
Spurzinho
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fishhhandaricecake
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Yep.
We can see it, other fans can see it yet astonishingly the guy getting £6million a year is absolutely clueless to the right thing to do.
Mark_147
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Lucas didn't say anything nuno didn't say himself.
Nuno admitted in his interview with the BBC that there are a "lot of things wrong" with this Tottenham team right now but pointed towards the start of the season as proof that the team can be far more solid than it is right now.
In his interview with Sky, he hinted slightly more at the players not doing what they were meant to and that his wrong decisions were in who he selected to start.
"The game plan was not good, the decisions were not good so it was not a good day for us," he said.
"I'm going to be honest with you. When you've got a game plan you have to make the right decisions in terms of who you want to put on the pitch to develop that game plan. I take the responsibility because the decisions were not according to the game plan.
"So I'm not going to say individuals, which decisions I didn't do right, but the game plan was not according to the players that were on the pitch."
He added: "We were not strong enough in the midfield and, I'm being very honest here and it's not easy to tell this but the decisions were not according to the game plan.
"So if we wanted to go strong in the midfield, maybe the decisions were not the right ones I made."
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PLTuck
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Spursweb are playing shennanigans. I can't find any article by the independant that comes anywhere near stating that. There was a fake/meme/comedy account saying this though.
That only one I can find is this one >>> https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/nuno-espirito-santo-tottenham-arsenal-b1927344.html
topper
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Fair enough - I'll delete
PLTuck
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Apologies...getting my articles mixed up I think.
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There have already been suggestions from those close to the Spurs squad that players aren’t that impressed: one quote that he is “some of the worst of Mourinho without the medals”.
"suggestions" "those close to the spurs squad". Who? Tanguy's mum, Charlie Kane and Darren Bent?
I smell bullshit. The vultures are circling and the knives are out.
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