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McFlash

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Tucker said:
Does he know that’s a nazi symbol? It’s the SS Totenkopf. Literally what the whole “are we the baddies” sketch from Mitchell and Webb was based on.

He’d be better off with a rats anus.
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He came back at me with the whole "how many days since Spurs last won a trophy".
Like that's a legitimate point with a subject such as this?

Now I may not be the most intelligent or eloquent but its safe to say that he currently being destroyed!

I actually like the bloke but when someone posts such bollocks on social media, it feels like a duty to just call him a **** and then explain why he's such a ****! ?
 
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WeGotLedley

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GMI said:
www.theguardian.com

Stamford Bridge hosts dark day for those who care for football’s soul | Jacob Steinberg

Chelsea fans aired support for Roman Abramovich as they faced Newcastle, a club backed by a nation that executed 81 people on Saturday
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Came in here because of this coupled with Trix saying enough is enough.
While I can either get, or more often, ignore, the more OTT anti enic in match/player/every thread, the way the utd result (we were arguably the better team, had a couple of not the best but not the worst performances, etc) descended into the usual shite really irked me.

I can't quite get how there was no real sense that a) maybe every player in the club isn't shit b) erm, anyone watch them destroy us at home? Was this better? OK, so maybe the world has not ended.. And c) yes, enic milk cash better than any other owner, went far too long let the squad they lucked out on degrade, they are also not a bunch of human rights obliterating oil guzzling shit heads.

It still makes my blood boil and mind boggle when people even hint that yes, if Saudi / other properly morally bankrupt owner came in with billions, they'd welcome with open arms. Not that ever enic-outer is like this. And not that some bashing when we just lost isn't totally understandable.
But looking at what's happening at Chelsea. Speaking to friends who are Chelsea, city, Newcastle (and have been for a long time), and it's clear that the balance is lost a little here.
Know this is slightly off thread. Which goes against my only suggestion on improving this. Namely, focus on off topic postings. My view is that's the most toxic part - if all the anti enic/kevy/winks/etc stayed in those threads, great, I never go there anyway. But esp when it was in the ITK thread (which i feel is now probably dead, sadly). And every match / player thread, something should be done. Some version of mod +/or more than x "off topic" ratings I think would help. And then if you have more than 3 strikes in a month, you get set to auto-ignore for anyone not watching you? (if that's technically feasible..) I think would go a long way to getting things back on track.

And yes, I'd rate the last half of this post as off topic...
 
McFlash

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rossdapep said:
Really sad
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Bunch of pricks!
Safe to say that the Chelsea lad I know has now edited his post on Facebook, removing the headhunters picture. He actually credited me in the edit too, which I think was actually meant as a dig but I'll take it as a compliment.

He tried the whole, you could just scroll past argument but that's basically a load of bollocks too.
Yeah, let's just scroll past and ignore racism and ignorance, then it'll go away!
 
Frozen_Waffles

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Drink!Drink! said:
Trying to understand the consequences of this. The people who have been deafening in their silence is the Premier League themselves.

They need to explain what rules and principles they are going to apply in terms of competition integrity and financial fair play. How is the league going to treat the 1.5bn in loans. They need to say if these must be taken on by the new owners - regardless about what the oligarch says about the matter, about writing them off. They need to state that the oligarch can't just write them off once the new owners are in place. And of course, what these debts might mean in terms of point deductions. Or point deductions for any defaults.

I can't pretend to know what the right questions to ask are here. But it feels like it's all in the hands of the league. The members control the league. Surely, only the owners of Man City and Newcastle would vote against tough measures
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Sorry, you lost me at premier League and 'integrity' and 'principles'.

They need to introduce them first before they can act on them.
 
Frozen_Waffles

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animalmom said:
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I am very curious as well and would like someone ITK to explain it to me like i’m 5 years old
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I am not itk know but here goes..

Chelsea have a debt of 1.5bn owed to a bad man.

That bad man is Russian, so they don't have to pay him.

The bad man is a criminal who supports the Russian government who have invaded a country we like.

Any other bad men who use money in football are ok*

That's the general idea.

*Unless they do something really, really bad**

**This doesn't include racism, sexism, human rights violations, assassinations of civilians etc..

Side note, I heard a Mexican woman was raped in Qatar, she complained and was put in prison. (Apparently not bad enough).
 
Tucker

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easley91 said:
I haven't been on here much these days due to the toxic atmosphere and to tell you the truth, it has done my mental health wonders. I very rarely miss it.
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I’d recommend avoiding the football sections and sticking to the general chat, I do that now and then when things get too depressing up there. I know a few others have too and that way you don’t lose SC and we all don’t lose a decent poster.
 
Frozen_Waffles

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dontcallme said:
For me, it comes down to the lack of a moral core.

Some clearly really bad people with political power and ill-gotten gains were allowed to buy major British assets with the governing bodies thinking of nothing but the money that was being brought in. Now people want to talk out against it once a war has started.

It didn't take a genius to see this was all very wrong.

Very much a case of closing the door after the horse has bolted.

No doubt we'll rinse and repeat. Already doing it with Newcastle.
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I think it's just ignorant people with a tribal nature.

They ignore the wider issues and just concentrate on blue Vs white, or perhaps red Vs white.

It's not about morals for most people it is simply they are us = good and not us = bad.

The majority are stupid, they are unable to differentiate (or don't care/have the mental ability to care).

It is a story of ignorance and lack of empathy that leads us to this sort of thinking.

More an indictment on the British education system than anything else.
 
nailsy

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Snarfalicious said:
Selling merch with Abramovich on it. Yeah, I mean, I really want the worst for them, sorry. I’m sure they have some real, good fans in that club, but by and large they are absolute scum and it really festered more under the Abramovich reign. So yeah, fuck ‘em.
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I didn't think they could sell merchandise?

cider spurs said:
I think the way forward is to drop the match result poll that usually heads the match thread.

Instead have say 5 of the most ridiculous/toxic posts in said thread placed in a poll. Members post match vote for the most idiotic/toxic Post and said member whom the post belongs to gets barred from the Match thread for a month, and thumped in the shins.

Three strikes yer out.

Bit like Russian roulette if you like, but we could name it...

Dumb if you Dare, or...Dumb on Down. :D
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Similar to this thread but with a poll...

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the fuck is a poomp? Toenails, obviously. You can't tell from the context? :rolleyes:
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Frozen_Waffles said:
I think it's just ignorant people with a tribal nature.

They ignore the wider issues and just concentrate on blue Vs white, or perhaps red Vs white.

It's not about morals for most people it is simply they are us = good and not us = bad.

The majority are stupid, they are unable to differentiate (or don't care/have the mental ability to care).

It is a story of ignorance and lack of empathy that leads us to this sort of thinking.

More an indictment on the British education system than anything else.
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I don't think it's within the power of the education system to control it. It's all down to the free-reign Zuckerberg has had to mess with people.

Once upon a time , someone would say something stupid and people would say "WTF man? That's not right" and they'd go "oh, right." and corrective thoughts could ensue. These days, people say something stupid and while most will say "WTF", a few will validate that opinion and no corrective thoughts ensue - it becomes a siege mentality. Like paranoid schizophrenia, but with real people.

Even worse is the onanistic stuff you see now, where someone will broadcast an opinion that isn't really their opinion - they just want to be celebrated for doing/saying something, and then people indulge in that by trying to get a slice of the circlejerk. It doesn't need to be the right kind of opinion, and is often so excessive that it becomes a dangerous opinion wrapped in the premise of something good, so people are falsely armed with energy towards something wrong.
Like "they're trying to kill our club - we won't let them. Chelsea forever", which is completely missing the fact that their owner is essentially a big ATM for Putin, and they have complete ignorance towards the fact that selling the club and all that charity nonsense wasn't transparent at all - it was opaque as fuck.
 
Booney

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C’mon lads. Can’t we keep some of this to the “Existential dread about life, the media landscape and the soul of SpursCommunity” thread.

Some of us are here to laugh at Chelsea and it’s really killing the vibe.
 
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Stuart Leathercock

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Spursberg said:
But seriously, how can he sign of on 1.5 billion in debt without PL taking action on transfers and club dealings for many years going forward? surely the other clubs would go to war on the PL if they can just sell the Club and forget about that money?
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Our owners could do exactly the same thing if they wanted to.... Pay off our debt using their own funds and then cancel that debt. As could any owner of a football club in the UK.
 
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Stuart Leathercock

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robotsonic said:
I suppose the hope would be that he is not in a position to essentially gift anyone any money at the moment even if he wanted to. God knows how it would affect FFP and how they treat forgiven debt or if they have any rules for that if he could, because the idea of anyone forgiving £1.5b debt is so ridiculous that it would probably not have been foreseen.
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As has been stated numerous times, FFP has nothing to do with debt. FFP merely looks at the operating profit (or more importantly) loss that a club makes and allows a maximum loss over any 3 year period. Chelsea have always stayed just the right side of the line, while we have always operated miles and miles above it.
 
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Stuart Leathercock

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Bulletspur said:
You asked what Chelsea did wrong? RA money that he used to finance Chelsea was gained on the exploitation of the Russian economy (Oil) at the detriment of the poor people and their children often at the costs of their lives. You are happy with that? This has been said for years and that it was not right, but the FA and PL were happy to turn a blind eye as they also gained financially. Like you, they seem to have their heads stuck in the sand.
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Not really anything to do with the FA and PL. If the UK are happy to accept (and generally it has been more 'invite') foreign investment from Oligarchs and the fossil fuel driven investment funds built up by countries with appalling human rights records, then guess what?.... Many entities will ended up being part/fully owned by such people/funds.
 
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Bluto Blutarsky said:
First, let’s not make this personal.

Second, it seems your issue is with Abramovich. I would guess most people think he is a bad guy, and is probably using Chelsea to launder money, and “sportswash” his own reputation. His relationship to Putin is why his assets have been frozen, but not yet subject to forfeiture.

I simply asked what the mechanism would be for punishing the club - for the sins of the owner. Certainly the loans should be under scrutiny, and the club should be made to pay them back - or face sanctions for violating financial fair play. But if new owners can sort the financials - I don’t know how you can impose sanctions on the club itself.
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Again, loans existing or being written off have nothing to do with FFP. Remember that Chelsea's 'loans' were at zero percent interest so cost the club nothing. FFP is merely concerned with the level of losses made by a club over any 3 year period.
 
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